Stealing music - from stores

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Anyone do this? Only from the big chains?

paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Once, when I was small I nicked a copy of Judas Priest's Unleashed in the East: Live In Japan on cassette. I put in down the front of my pants. I was shopping for the afternoon with my Mom, and she wanted to go grab some food at the cafe next to the drugstore from which I stole the cassette.

Anyway, the cassette kept making a loud (or at least I imagined it to be loud) rattling from my crotch area, sort of like the telltale heart. Anyway....I went to the bathroom before lunch (which was in the basement - this was a pretty old building) and hid the cassette in a hole in the wall, thinking I was going to get it later, but I never did.

They later tore the building down and I wondered if some lucky demolition guy got a little free Priest.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

The only other thing I ever stole was a Stephen King book from my local grocery store. I got caught, and I remember being embarrassed because a book was such a sissy thing to get caught stealing.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

They later tore the building down and I wondered if some lucky demolition guy got a little free Priest.

Thank you, my head just moved in squelchy directions.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, very cute story. part of the reason i pose the question is because of another recent thread about who takes less profit when CDs are marked down.
i was talking to a friend who reasonably regularly steals music (from stores, not online), and we were talking about who loses:
the store, obviously.

but since it doesn't get marked as a sale, does this prevent the store ordering more? ie, are inventories taken from what is sold, or from how many remain on the shelves?

or we can just share stealing tips...

paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

usually, a store will take inventory pretty frequently, and it's based on counting what's in stock in the back and on shelves. I imagine the stolen stuff gets marked down as a loss on the books.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

When I was a college freshman in NYC I would frequent a Tower Records at Broadway and 72nd where I would surreptiously remove the yellow sales stickers from some CDs, keep them hidden in my hand as I wandered around the store for another twenty minutes, and then go to another, more expensive CD in another part of the store entirely, and as I would "look at the song listings on the back", I would apply the sales sticker to the front of the CD, hidden from view. It worked every time, much to my delight/current shame.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm only speaking from experience, of course, but a CD that was marked down 10% (after three months), then 25% (after another month), then 35% (after another month), then 40% (after another month) would not be re-ordered after being sold.

Inventory = what's on hand; sales = sales.

Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

The best trick for stealing CDs from chain stores is to actually buy something in the first place from another store, so you have a decent sized carrier bag. Spend a long time in the store so it looks like you're browsing, then put the CDs you want to steal in your bag when your at a rack's side (ie, hidden from the front view of the store). Buy something from this store as well. When leaving the store, just swing your bags around so that they go over the theft-prention scanner buzzer thing.

Easy.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

big stores allow for a certain amount of shrinkage/theft on their books anyway, so steal away!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, the sticker thing works every time at stores like Virgin and Tower. They just plant em on the front, and don't seem record on their database which ones are reduced.

so does stealing CDs hurt the artist involved?

paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

look at it this way, if it does hurt the artist even better! More pain=greater art

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't stolen even a crumb of bread since I was 15 (if you don't count downloading), when I got busted carting cassettes out of K-Mart in my baggy pants. I think the two albums they caught me with were Terence Trent D'Arby and The Smithereens. I'd stolen about 20 albums before they caught me, though.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Friday, 23 January 2004 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

anyone who was anyone would have been dying to have terence trent d'arby in their pants when they were fifteen.

Chris V (Chris V), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I steal shit, but I've never stolen CDs. I think I enjoy shopping for them too much. I've noticed that usually, if you bought something and the buzzer thing goes off they just wave you on assuming they made a mistake. You could probably take advantage of that.

Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah it's rare that clerks want to offend anyone by saying "hey come back and let me search you".

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

actually, if you work in a library or some other such place that uses tattle-tape (or tattle-tape-like-devices), a maddening trick to play on your friends and coworkers is to hide a piece of said tape somewhere on their person. in a seam on a coat or backpack is best---they then keep setting off security devices wherever they go until they've found it. what better way to show you care than inviting a cavity search on your friends and coworkers by the greeters at their local Wal*Mart?

*halos*

janni (janni), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

One job I had gave me an HMV account so that I could order in (by courier!) "research materials". Dummies.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Concealment = lamest way to steal

Good concealment = tin-foil lined bag or pocket, it foils security scanners. A ring of thieves here was just caught doing this (they got too confident after getting $1000's worth.)

Good way to steal = hiding in plain sight- not concealing, just walking- slowly, casually- with items in your hand- like you already bought them. Buzzer goes off- keep walking and you get away with it.

A fun move: walk around "browsing" with a stack of CD in your hand. Turn into an empty store aisle. Do the "i'm hot, just removing my coat" move where you turn the coat inside out over the hand holding the CD's, in one swift move, so they end up inside your wrapped up coat which you tuck under your arm. Take into bathroom, remove security devices, pants them.

An even more fun move involves actually tricking the store into giving you items/cash free by a method which I cannot divulge.

sucka (sucka), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Stealing music -- c/d

JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Sucka you must divulge

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

there are some ideas on this site:

http://www.totse.com/en/bad_ideas/scams_and_rip_offs/stealfrommusicstoreseasily168589.html

paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

You know the only music store where I've ever seen a shoplifter caught was Aron's Records in L.A., and I've seen it happen THREE times there. They don't call in the cops, actually, what they do is take the guy to a back room, give him a talking to apparently, and then one of the guys escorts him out of the store, pointing at him saying loudly and repeatedly "Shoplifter! shoplifter!!", figuring the humiliation factor might work I'm guessing. ouch.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Stealing is bad! How dare you people encourage lawlessness! Shame on you all!

Thieves! Hypocrites and blasphemers!

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Stealing is wrong....I haven't stolen anything from since that Stephen King book upthread. I know it's really cool to be all "fuck the music industry" and everything, but I'd have a really hard timed justifying stealing music from a store (I don't burn music at all or download much either)....esp. from a small indie store; that seems low, esp. since so many of those guys struggle to make it anyway.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

next thread: "Killing tranny hookers - in alleys"

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

there are often racks and racks of the same CD, as though they sell much more in the case of a few select CDs. These popular CDs, why don't you steal all of them, so other people can't buy them ? or leave just one copy of each CD in a store out of fairness ?
man, it does sound like an unwieldy impractical job. i mean, whole shelves (the cigarettes), and that positive gearing tax contra ..., wow !
at least it'll usually be horrible music, so you don't need to listen to it. Just steal all of the CDs and then destroy them. Don't sell them to anyone else, as no one else will have heard of that music if you're really working it.

george gosset (gegoss), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost

Gear, I know I'm going to get flamed for that, and obv. I know it's not as bad as murdering tranny hookers...haha funny.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Everybody murders tranny hookers once in a while, it's like hitting a squirrel with your car. Regrettable, but unavoidable...

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

But stealing is just plain wrong.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Like masturbation, homosexuality, and dancing.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

You're right of course Matt, my stealing days are not something I'm proud of and I wouldn't steal again. Though I guess it wasn't so much stealing as giving myself a discount = /

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 23 January 2004 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually at Aron's Records you'll see a lot of TS hookers looking for house music.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Does not paying your tranny hookers count as stealing? I mean squirrels don't need money so you can't steal from a squirrel.

sucka (sucka), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Gear OTM!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I have to admit a fair share of embarrassing double takes

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

this sounds like a pretty interesting store.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

It was the best in town until Amoeba showed up. Now it's a distant second, though the prices are about a buck or two lower than Amoeba across the board.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

"...you can't steal from a squirrel."

You can steal acorns (or nuts, or anything else a squirrel would find valuable). And there is a largely unrecognized trade in rodent prostitution that is sweeping the parks and forests of America. A decent squirrel rim-job will cost you about 20 acorns.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

That reminds me of a show I saw one time, when the singer of a band told a joke and the drummer didn't do a rim shot, and the singer turned around and said "hey aren't you going to give me a rim job for that joke?"

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

:-)

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

it was funnier because they were some wannabe garage rock superstar band whose fashion sense, hair, and attitude outweighed their actual talent.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Which band was it?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

actually, if you work in a library or some other such place that uses tattle-tape (or tattle-tape-like-devices), a maddening trick to play on your friends and coworkers is to hide a piece of said tape somewhere on their person. in a seam on a coat or backpack is best---they then keep setting off security devices wherever they go until they've found it.

In HS days my friend used to do this all the time to me and anyone else he was shopping with. Peel off the sticky white tab alarm thingees and put it on your back. Coincidentally he was the biggest thief I've ever known. Used to run hella scams back in the day, mainly price tag switches at sporting good stores. Put the tag of the cheap model on the expensive model of the same brand. Buy it. Return it. Recoup. Since then stores have gotten smarter and you can't do this now.

I used to take from Best Buy pretty regularly. Always same MO. Pick up 2 copies of the same cd. Peel off the security tag. Walk around a corner of an aisle where the shelves blocked the view of the cameras and stuff it down my pants. Haven't done that for about 6 or 7 years. Just not worth the risk.

oops (Oops), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

good because the security tags are inside the jewelbox (under the disk) now.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

one to hear and one to sell?

sucka (sucka), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

it was a couple of years back, I don't quite remember...for some reason I want to say it was shitty L.A. garage rock band/February Spaceland band-in-residence the Vacation, but I don't think it was.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Next thread. Taking sides: squirrel rimjobs or hamsters in your rectum?

sucka (sucka), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

John and I, pissed as fucks, second year university, 5pm, walk into HMV. John says "Hang on a minute," walks to the S in rock+pop, picks up Ladies & gents... by SPRTLZD, walks up to the counter, says "my girlfriend bought me this but I've already got it; can I exchange it?" security tags still on, no bag, no reciept, store guy says yes? wtf?!!, John exchanges it for Play we got for another pint John says "I'm fucked if I'm paying for this shit but I need to hear it to see if it's any good."

Never done it myself, of course.

Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Friday, 23 January 2004 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

hahaha

OK I'll divulge- I do that but use receipts I get from dumpster diving, and they give back cash. As detailed in that certain Crimethinc book.

sucka (sucka), Friday, 23 January 2004 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

this was easy when cds were still in longboxes, because if they had security tags on them, they were stuck on the longbox. I carried around a razor blade with me and just sliced the fuckers open and pulled the cd out and put it in my pocket. I did this regularly at musicland/tower for years. I was a bigger liberator of books though and did this all through college and had some lazy ass justification for it involving information wanting to be free that was not unlike the justifications filesharing advocates spouse, I guess, although there's no doubt that what I did was wrong. But I was poor and in college so who cares. I haven't done any of this in many years which is partly why I'm in so much debt now; actually paying money for stuff you want is expensive! Now filesharing is my friend.

akm (akmonday), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

actually paying money for stuff you want is expensive! Now filesharing is my friend

after all the elaborate, intellectual rationales for file-sharing, it really comes down to this....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm I wonder if this would work:

Buying used CDs at Amoeba, where you can return used CDs within 7 days if they don't play properly! And then getting another CD of equal value straight up in exchange. The trick would be to return a CD you already own and do not want instead. Hmm....

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)

hmv in the mall - busy afternoons, never anyone at the main desk, always walking around the store or at the back - run cds over de-armer thing, music in store covers beeping sound - walk out.

cloverlandthug, Friday, 23 January 2004 22:52 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, that's easy. also, of course returning will work. say you tried it on two players. if it plays on theirs (they won't try), it's no evidence - you'll get the credit.

when swapping stickers (at chains) make sure the discount sticker on the front isn't related to the barcode on the back...normally they don't bother printing new barcodes.

if you live at a chainstore where you can listen with the CD player in fron of you, take a busted/blank CD, and give it back to em in the paper sleeve.

thing about all this is that in any situation you can claim you made a mistake/someone else swicthed it. but if it's in your pocket, then that's stealing...

paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 23 January 2004 22:54 (twenty-two years ago)

What's HMV?

Adm Mchel (adam michel), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Buying used CDs at Amoeba, where you can return used CDs within 7 days if they don't play properly! And then getting another CD of equal value straight up in exchange. The trick would be to return a CD you already own and do not want instead. Hmm....

the used buyers will catch on (well, at least the ones in SF/Berkeley would)... i've seen them in action!

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah there's probably some code in the receipt. clever bastards!

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 24 January 2004 00:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not in a position to judge anyone here because god knows I have done it all, including stealing.

BUT.......I know one rationale is that when you steal, you're not really hurting anyone. You're taking one hundreth of a cent out of some big CEO's pocket, and that's it--right? Well, I have had the joy of working in retail for almost 10 years now--and I've learned that this is totally not the case.

When you work in a record (or clothing, or whatever) store, sometimes you'll end up spending half your day trying to prevent people from ripping you off or doing bogus returns. You don't have a choice about it--your managers expect you to deal with these situations. You can't just sit back and let people walk off with all your stuff if you want to keep your job. It can be frustrating and sometimes even a little scary to try and get through your day when ten feet away from you someone's stuffing half your store into their coat or whatever.

All's I'm sayin' is that when you steal, you ARE affecting someone--it's the 18 year-old cashier from Brooklyn who has to argue with you about your refund or the Assistant Manager who can't get his raise if his shortage numbers suck. You're making THEIR lives miserable--not some CEO.

Carrie Turner (cjt), Saturday, 24 January 2004 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Corporate propaganda. "If the numbers suck" says it all. It's not your personal bank account it's corporate profits. If the numbers suck they will hire more security. And who gives a rat's ass about security guard's jobs, they get paid to watch monitors all day and most of them, especially the ones in it for a career are utter tools for the ruling class. And "shoplifting lowers profits and hurts workers" is a lame corporate excuse for exploiting people more. Jobs in the service economy have little to nothing to do with performance, the lousy pay is set by the labor market and there's very little they can do to make it any lower. The CEO's take their pay first and they don't give you raises any faster when business is great (you know jobless growth). Consumers aren't hurt either, there's the thing called the manufacturer's retail price. Competition among all stores across the board prevents markup over it and the manufacturer, not the retailer sets it. If it isn't stealing from the small independent shops, theft does hurt the CEO's not the workers.

sucka (sucka), Saturday, 24 January 2004 04:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Why I Love Shoplifting from Big Corportations?

cloverlandthug, Saturday, 24 January 2004 04:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i want you to know that it's very naive and misguided.

cloverlandthug, Saturday, 24 January 2004 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)

i am continually amazed at the reach of the entitlement mentality.

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 24 January 2004 04:38 (twenty-two years ago)

It's interesting to hear all of these theft stories. Thievery may be fun, but as someone who worked in a crap corporate music store, I have to admit that nothing made the workday more enjoyable than catching people trying to steal stuff. I'm sure we caught less than a quarter of the people stealing from us, but people do get caught. The security alarm rarely worked effectively; what got people caught, however, was other customers. You wouldn't believe how many shoppers come up to the front desk to report that someone is stealing/acting suspicious. A music store clerk is likely willing to chase you down, if only as a relief from boredom. One of my co-workers once tackelled a shoplifter. I don't know how it works at other stores, but a certain level of shrinkage was deemed acceptable (at my store, at least, management received a bonus if shrinkage was kept in check).

My favourite story is of the dumbass who dropped off a resume and then decided to steal a dvd. He got caught (the dvd he tried to take was softcore porn, which made it even funnier). I decided it would be fun to visit the store he worked at (it was in the same mall & on his resume) to have a chat with his manager. I wasn't surprised to hear that he got fired the next day. The real kicker is that one of his references was his church minister. I wasn't sadistic enough to give him a call, but it did cross my mind.

grapeshine, Saturday, 24 January 2004 08:52 (twenty-two years ago)

i used to know two guys in high school who used to steal loads from (the now defunct) encore books and music in mechanicsburg, pa. they'd take all the security devices on the outside of the case and come into school the next day with a bag full of everyone's requests -- i must've got at least 20 CDs at the bargain basement price of $5 each.

Andrew Calaman (Andrew Calaman), Saturday, 24 January 2004 13:01 (twenty-two years ago)

To "sucka":

Not to get into it too deep, but saying, "who give's a rat's ass about a security guard's job" rather seems to contradict your concern about CEOs exploiting the Common Man. As far as I know, security guards qualify as the Common Man, too.

I respect your opinion nonetheless.

Carrie Turner (cjt), Saturday, 24 January 2004 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

just swing your bags around so that they go over the theft- prention scanner buzzer thing.

What, like swing them right over your head??


Anyway, it all seems like a lot of effort for very little reward to me. Wouldn't smuggling cigarettes or liquor, or peddling dope have a better payoff?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 24 January 2004 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

The CDs you get from places like Mr CD or Black Dog on Berwick Street have a tendency to set off alarms when you go into a big shop. My laptop bag tends to be stuffed with CDs anyway so it's always happening to me. I look confused and stand and wait until a security guard comes over and says it's OK - they then wave me through when it beeps again on the way out cos they recognise me. Now as it happens I don't steal stuff but in this situation I assume I could get away with it if I did.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Saturday, 24 January 2004 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

So here is a twist. I used to frequent a large shop and It was in my heavy grunge days so I always looked like shit. The store dick was so obvious, there was no way that you couldn't tell that he was watching you. I mean a real Barney Fife, looking at you over the top of magazines,etc. One day around Christmas he grabs this guy and makes a huge scene hustling him to the office. My only thought was, Man how could you get caught stealing in here? It's really busy and the "thief" is yelling and shit and as they walk by me the security guy points at me and yells "And you're next!I saw what you were doing and I'll get you!" I go BALLISTIC!I actually created such a scene that they gave me a $100. gift certificate. But OMG I was so embarrassed. It's one thing to get busted for stealing, but another completely to get busted for not stealing. Everybody in that store thought I had a pocketful of Maddonna.

Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Saturday, 24 January 2004 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey Carrie Turner, I can't seem to find the thread "are cops working class" where people debated that. I would say mostly no because of what their job is, although often they do come from that background and don't always agree with the values they are defending. So I don't try to go out of my way to mess with their jobs unless it's personal... because they do go out of their way to screw with me (last month: pulled over on a bicycle and given 3 traffic tickets WTF?) But yeah stealing is really not very deep.

sucka (sucka), Sunday, 25 January 2004 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I still consider Soulseek the best current place to steal music ;)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 25 January 2004 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate to admit this but if the staff looks like they enjoy their job then I won't steal stuff, but if they're miserable and look like they want to be elsewhere then I might. This is unfair of course because the miserable people usually are that way because they really hate wearing a name-tag at their age. Am I 'screwing the company' for them, or just adding to the pain?

dave q, Sunday, 25 January 2004 11:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Got caught nicking Eno's "Here come the warm jets" from a market trader when about 15. (As in the title, thought I was going to piss myself)

mark trick, Friday, 30 January 2004 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm finished with my CD stealing days, but in my prime (in 2000, I guess), I must have stolen around 60 cd's, not counting with all the price swapping I did back when I was 16-17. Unfortunately, I got hooked on having new music all the time, so now I spend a lot of money on CDs just to keep the pace I got when I had them for free...

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Saturday, 31 January 2004 00:07 (twenty-two years ago)

When I was a college freshman in NYC I would frequent a Tower Records at Broadway and 72nd where I would surreptiously remove the yellow sales stickers from some CDs, keep them hidden in my hand as I wandered around the store for another twenty minutes, and then go to another, more expensive CD in another part of the store entirely, and as I would "look at the song listings on the back", I would apply the sales sticker to the front of the CD, hidden from view. It worked every time, much to my delight/current shame.
-- Gear! (drink_to_remembe...), January 23rd, 2004.

Wot? I still do this pretty often. Works like a charm.

Wot Me Worry? (Francis Watlington), Sunday, 1 February 2004 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)

i am assuming most of these stories are made-up to make the would-be perps appear to be hip, edgy nihilists bent on the destruction of capitalism.

keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 1 February 2004 01:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, never done it, but when I see that System Of a Down cover, I am tempted :-)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 1 February 2004 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

The only way I've ever shoplifted is if I knew the employees of the store or worked there. Walk up to the counter with a stack of CDs or books (or groceries and beer, lots of groceries and beer) when they're the only one on duty, pay for one item, the rest get bagged, walk out. And I only did it with big chain stores, esp. ones that treated people like shit.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 1 February 2004 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"And I only did it with big chain stores, esp. ones that treated people like shit."

Totally. Except one time I stole "There Is No One What Will Take Care of You" and Will Oldham went crazy with the Cheez Whiz re: pseudonyms immediately afterward. So I guess I brought that confusion on myself, karmically speaking.

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Sunday, 1 February 2004 04:55 (twenty-two years ago)

The only way I've ever shoplifted is if I knew the employees of the store or worked there. Walk up to the counter with a stack of CDs or books (or groceries and beer, lots of groceries and beer) when they're the only one on duty, pay for one item, the rest get bagged, walk out. And I only did it with big chain stores, esp. ones that treated people like shit.
-- miloauckerman (suspectdevic...), February 1st, 2004.

You're a regular Robin Hood, boyo!

? (Francis Watlington), Sunday, 1 February 2004 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Shoplifters are vile.

My favourite record store used to catch people stealing and make them sit with a dunce/thief cap on a stool while 'Shoplifters of the World Unite' played and the apprehending member of staff waited for the cops to show.

Better to become a good customer and get a markdown (which happens in all good local/focalpoint record shops).

suzy (suzy), Sunday, 1 February 2004 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Suzy is right on that last point -- I regularly get a markdown at my favorite haunt.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 1 February 2004 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

'Shoplifters of the World Unite'

I caught someone while this very song was playing. He didn't get the connection until it was pointed out to him and didn't find it nearly as funny as I did.

Andy K (Andy K), Sunday, 1 February 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never stolen...from someone I didn't work for.
I spent a time working at a chain we'll call Books-A-Plenty. Worked customer service for a time looking up books and placing orders and such, which wasn't too bad. Then they moved me to Sale Table Inventory, which was absolutely terrible. So I started spending my hours there pretending to be straightening the inventory whilst casually finding gems hidden amongst all the chaff and placing $1 stickers on them and then purchase them AND receive my employee discount. So I gave them a little money. Though I did straight up take a St. Etienne tape from the cassette bin during one shift. Fox Base Alpha.

Stealy Stealerson (andrewmorgan), Sunday, 1 February 2004 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Everyone OTM re employee theft. When I worked retail in a big box they knew it was such a problem that you actually had to stand around and wait to get patted down by a manager before you could leave. Takes the edge off some of the sympathy for the poor clerks.

My formative shoplifting memory is a kid in high school proudly complaining about how much work it had been to suavely fit a Slayer double cassette into his pocket.

andrew s (andrew s), Sunday, 1 February 2004 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)


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