Best Rap Album of 03 (Pazz & Jopesque Poll)

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Vote for the best Rap (useful term because it covers Hip Hop, Grime, & Dancehall - but no instrumental stuff) Album of the year.

Assign your 10 votes like so: 5 votes maximum per album, 1 vote minimum - so you can vote for only 2 albums if you want.

I promise to tally the votes in a weeks time.

My Vote:

Dizzee Rascal: Boy in da Corner - 4
Outkast: Speakerboxxx/The Love Below - 2
Bubba Sparxxx: Deliverance - 2
Vybz Kartel: Up 2 Di Time - 1
The Majesticons: Beauty Party - 1

― Jedmond, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Ragga Ragga Ragga! 2003 4
Atmosphere, Seven's Travels 2
Bobby Konders, Mad Sick Head Nah Good Mix 2
Bubba Sparxxx, Deliverance 1
Jay-Z, The Black Album 1

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 04:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Jay-Z 3
Bubba Sparxxx 3
Nappy Roots 2
Dizzee 2

― sym (shmuel), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 04:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Outkast: Speakerboxx/The Love Below - 3
Ying Yang Twins: Me & My Brother - 2
Bubba Sparxxx: Deliverance - 2
Har Mar Superstar: You Can Feel Me - 2
Ludacris: Chicken & Beer - 1

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 04:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Prefuse 73 - One Word Extinguisher 5
Dizzee Rascal - Boy in da Corner 4
Jay-Z - The Black Album 1

― tipustiger, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)

5 - Jay-Z - The Black album
3 - Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain
2 - Non-Prophets - HOPE

― djdee2005, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 04:24 (twenty-two years ago)

King Geedorah - Take Me To Your Leader - 3
Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below - 3
Jay-Z - The Black Album - 2
Bubba Sparxxx - Deliverance - 1
50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin' - 1

― Sean M (Sean M), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 04:34 (twenty-two years ago)

three six - da unbreakables - 2
juvenile - juve the great - 2
50 cent - get rich or die tryin - 2
g-unit - beg for mercy - 2
big tymers - big money heavyweight - 2

― cloverlandthug, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 04:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Outkast - Speakerboxx/The Love Below - 4
Bubba Sparxxx - Deliverance - 3
Jay-Z - The Black Album - 2
50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Trying - 1

― jonviachicago, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 06:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Dizzee Rascal: Boy in Da Corner - 3
Bubba Sparxxx: Deliverance - 2
Freeway: Philadelphia Freeway - 2
David Banner: Mississippi: The Album - 2
Jay-Z: The Black Album - 1

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 07:01 (twenty-two years ago)

David Banner -- Mississippi
Bubba Sparxxx -- Deliverance
Outkast -- Speakerboxxx/Love Below
50 Cent -- Get Rich or Die Tryin'
Bad Boys II soundtrack

Dead Prez would be on that list had they released the REAL album they made, called RBG. Still not sure why it didn't come out. Was really dark, but entertaining in spots.

― Chris O., Tuesday, 27 January 2004 08:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Soca Gold 2003 - 3
Ragga Ragga Ragga 2003 - 2
Deliverance - 2
Mississippi - 2
Boy In Da Corner - 1

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 09:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Dan Greenpeace and DJ Yoda- Unthugged: The Essential Selection 3
Pitman- It Takes A Nation of Tossers 2
Fallacy- Blackmarket Boy 2
DM and Jemini- Ghetto Pop Life 2
DJ Format- Music For The Mature B-Boy 1

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 10:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Bubba 4
Outkast 4
Missy 2

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 10:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Outkast - Speakerboxxx / The Love Below 3
Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner 3
MF Doom is Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain 2
Fallacy - Blackmarket Boy 2

― Jonathan (Jonathan), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Dizzee Rascal - Boy in Da Corner 4
Bubba Sparxxx - Deliverence 2
Ragga Ragga Ragga! 2003 2
Missy Elliot - This is Not a Test 1
Lyrics Born - Later That Day 1

― Not That Chuck, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Speakerboxxx/The Love Below - Outkast
Later That Day - Lyrics Born
The Lost Masters - Kool Keith
Boy In Da Corner - Dizzee Rascal
Spirit In Stone - Lifesavas

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

well, if we're including dancehall as rap (think reggae chat may well have prefigured hip-hop, but not getting into a debate on US cultural imperialism here)

1) Ward 21 - U Know How We Roll (by a mile now)
2) Vybz Kartel - Up 2 Di Time
3) Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner
5) Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
5) Fallacy - Black Market Boy

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it's just 'albums with MCing on' Dave, hence my Soca vote.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmmm... I didn't vote for Dizzee cos I never think of him as rap. An oversight. Oh well, it's not like no other fucker's voting for him.

― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

To get pedantic, the following albums fit more in broader Hip Hop category than rap per se:

1 Buck 65 - Talkin Honky Blues
2 Panjabi MC - Beware
3 Black Eyed Peas - Elephunk

Crap, I don't know. I didn't hear much hip hop last year that REALLY made me whatever.

― Huck Everlasting (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Prince Paul - Politics of the Business 4
Babbletron - Mechanical Royalty - 2
Killer Mike - Monster 2
Aesop Rock - Bazooka Tooth 1
Ludacris - Chicken & Beer 1

― scott m (mcd), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Jay-Z - 3
Outkast - 2
Youngblood Brass Band - 2
Dizzee - 2
Ludacris - 1

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Sonic Sum might have been on there if their record had come out, but it's not going to. Too bad, because it's really good.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below - 4
Jay-Z - Black Album - 2
Dizzee Rascal - Boy in Da Corner - 2
David Banner - Mississippi: The Album - 1
Prefuse 73 - One Word Extinguisher - 1

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Best rap album = best album with predominantly MCed vocals.

I chose to use rap over hip hop because I wanted to have people include any album with MCing without people squabbling over genre details (so Soca Gold 2003 is a luverly choice).

And I chose rap over MCing because, although it suggests "US cultural imperialist domiance" it tweaks people who always inform you that we shouldn't call it rap music (everybody knows genre names should designed to irritate the musicans who work within the genre - why I loved the term trip hop so much - descriptive and it pissed Massive Attack, Portishead and Tricky off) but hip hop (even if I do the same, pissing a rockist friend off by refering to his rock collection as sing music).

― Jedmond, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)

david banner - mta s&c 3
david banner - mta s&c 2
ti - trap muzik 2
dizzee 2
bubba 1

― g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

er dammit the 2nd banner is the regular one, need coffee...

― g--ff (gcannon), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

non-prophets - hope 3
outkast - the love below 3
dizzee rascal - boy in da corner 2
viktor vaughn - vaudeville vilain 2

um, nickalicious, what's that kool keith one ?

― thom (nathalie), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Kool Keith's "The Lost Masters" is a collection of outtakes, but I'm not sure whether the outtakes are from just his previous album or his total career.

― Jedmond, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

50 cent - 3
dave banner - 2
jay z - 2
dm & jemini - 2
dizzee - 1

― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Bubba Sparxxx - Deliverance - 4
Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below - 2
Dizzee Rascal - Boy in da Corner - 2
Jay-Z - Black Album - 1
Gangstarr - The Ownerz - 1

― andrew s (andrew s), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

The Biggest Ragga Dancehall Anthems 2003 - 4
Jay-Z - 3
Black Eyed Peas - 1
50 Cent - 1
Bubba Sparxxx - 1

(Note: you could aggregate the score for my first choice with the scores for Ragga Ragga Ragga! 2003, since it contains many of the same tracks, and more besides ... hence it's bettah!)

― zebedee (zebedee), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

OOPS I meant Ragga Dancehall Anthems 2003 not Ragga Ragga Ragga 2003 jedmond - if you're not aggregating that is, please switch my two points!

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

David Banner -- mta - 4 Kayne West - I'm Good - 2 Black Eyed Peas -- Elephunk - 2 T.I. -- Trap Muzik - 1 Freeway -- Philadelphia Freeway - 1 (nb these are the five albums from my p&j ballot, with roughly proportional points to the ones I gave there. Also note that they are actual rap, unlike say Outkast. If I wanted to go with a broad defintion, of albums which included rapping then I'd also have had to include R. Kelly and Britney Spears)

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Also note that they are actual rap, unlike say Outkast

Are you saying that Speakerboxxx is not a rap album?

― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Bubba Sparxxx, Deliverance - 4
OutKast, Speakerboxxx/The Love Below - 3
Dizzee Rascal, Boy in da Corner - 3

― Josh Timmermann (Josh Timmermann), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Bubba Sparxxx, Deliverance - 4
OutKast, Speakerboxxx/The Love Below - 3
Dizzee Rascal, Boy in da Corner - 3

― Josh Timmermann (Josh Timmermann), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Non-Prophets, Hope - 4
Jay-Z, Black Album - 2
Aesop Rock, Bazooka Tooth - 2
Outkast, Speakerboxxx/The Love Below - 1
Dizzee Rascal, Boy In Da Corner - 1

Almost in there: Viktor Vaughn, Lyrics Born, Prefuse, DM & Jemini

The Bobby Konders is easily the most all-encompassing dancehall mix but the mixing disappointed me and Biggest Ragga Dancehall Anthems 2004 has whole songs and really picks the most definitive pieces IMO. Both are cool though.

― Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

David Banner - Mississippi Screwed and Chopped - 4
Ying Yang Twins - Me and My Brother - 4
Buck 65 - Talkin' Honky Blues - 3
Bubba Sparxxx - Deliverance - 3
Panjabi MC - Beware - 2

― chuck, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 18:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Also not rap: Prefuse, Aesop, Dizzee, Har Mar Superstar, parts of Bubba Sparxxx, parts of The Black Album, Public Enemy, Run-DMC, Life After Death (but not Ready To Die), Majesticons, Puff Daddy (but not P. Diddy), Enter The 36 Chambers (too many people on it!), The Beastie Boys (they're white, duh!) but not Eminem, Dre (gangsta was a sellout!), Hot Boyz (that's not music, its just noise!), Tom Petty (who does he think he's fooling?).

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Vik Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain - 3
David Banner - MTA - 2
Bubba Sparxxx - Deliverance - 2
Immortal Technique - Revolutionary Vol. 2
Jean Grae - The Bootleg of the Bootleg EP - 1

― Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Chuck, your points have to add up to 10. yours add up to 16.

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Oops! I didn't see that part; I was wondering why the points assignment seemed so random. (Plus, I've been correcting math on 725 pazz and jop albums for the past month, if that's any kind of excuse.)

Anyway, ignore the above and reassign my points as follows, I guess:

David Banner - Mississippi Screwed and Chopped - 3
Ying Yang Twins - Me and My Brother - 3
Buck 65 - Talkin' Honky Blues - 2
Bubba Sparxxx - Deliverance - 2

― chuck, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Ying Yang Twins Me & My Brother 4
Panjabi MC Beware 2
Triple Threat Many Styles 1
Dizzee Rascal Boy In Da Corner 1
David Banner "Mississippi: The Album" 1
David Banner/Michael Watts "Mississippi: The Screwed and Chopped Album" 1

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 23:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I never heard that DM & Jemini album. I keep thinking DM is Danja Mowf from I think Virginia. Does anybody remember that guy? Anyway, I think DM & Jemini is something I might like, and might have been on my list in an alternate universe. Also, Dizzee is 2004 for me since I just got it and besides it just came out here.

― scott m (mcd), Tuesday, 27 January 2004 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below.4
Viktro Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain....3
Jay Z - The Black Album...............2
Sole - Selling Live Water.............1

― Maciej, Tuesday, 27 January 2004 23:38 (twenty-two years ago)

viktor vaughn - 4
king gheedorah - 3
diverse - 2
gang starr - 1

― arjun (arjun), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 00:12 (twenty-two years ago)

atmosphere - seven's travels [3]
dizzee rascal - boy in da corner [3]
jay-z - the black album [2]
bubba sparxxx - deliverance [1]
david banner - mta [1]

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Dizzee (3)
Bubba (2)
Atmosphere (2)
Jay-Z (1)
Outkast (1)
Ragga Ragga Ragga (1)

― chris herrington (chris herrington), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Jean Grae - The Bootleg of the Bootleg EP - 5
David Banner - Mississippi S&C - 3
Jay-Z - The Black Album - 1
Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner - 1

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Someone has pointed out that all these lists are exactly the same, right?

― sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Shows you how lousy a year it was for hip-hop.

― Chris O., Wednesday, 28 January 2004 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, for hip-hop albums maybe.

― sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)

dizzee rascal - boy in da corner [2]
50 cent - get rich or die tryin' [2]
viktor vaughn - vaudeville villain [2]
david banner - mta [1]
bubba sparxxx - deliverance [1]
dm & jemini - ghetto pop life [1]
jay-z - black album [1]

(with still more pretend points to allocate to vybz kartel, ward 21, panjabi mc and buck 65...)

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 03:32 (twenty-two years ago)

True, it was avery, very good year for radio singles.

― Chris O., Wednesday, 28 January 2004 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Is only there was a "Now That's what I call Hip Hop" as selected by ILM.

― Jedmond, Wednesday, 28 January 2004 03:53 (twenty-two years ago)

If not Is, one day I will proof read one of my ILM posts and the world will end.

― Jedmond, Wednesday, 28 January 2004 03:53 (twenty-two years ago)

any hip-hop chart comp from this year will do just fine.

in retrospect Crunk and Disorderly shoulda been on my list too, I think except I never saw it at a discount price and for a sampler comp it SHOULDA been so fuck it.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 10:21 (twenty-two years ago)

The Majesticons: Beauty Party 3
Athmosphere: Seven's Travels 3
Dead Prez presents: Get Free or Die Tryin' (The Mixtape Vol. 2) 3
Canibus: Rip the Jacker 1

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 10:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll calculate this in the next 24 hours, any last additions?

― Jedmond, Thursday, 5 February 2004 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

give one of my jay-z points to t.i.'s trap muzik, pls.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 5 February 2004 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

T.I., Trap Muzik 4
Lyrics Born, Later That Day... 3
David Banner, Mississippi: The Screwed and Chopped Album 2
Missy Elliott, This Is Not a Test 1

― Begs2Differ, Thursday, 5 February 2004 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

ying yang twins - me & my brother - 4
v/a - crunk & disorderly - 2
three six mafia - da unbreakables - 2
bubba sparxxx - deliverance - 1
bonecrusher - attenCHUN! - 1

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 5 February 2004 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

david banner - mta screwed & chopped 3
dizzee - 3
vybz - up 2 di time 2
lyrics born - later that day 1
viktor vaughn - vaudeville villain 1

― ryan kuo (ryan kuo), Thursday, 5 February 2004 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Jaylib – Champion Sound 4
David Banner – Mississippi (Chopped and Screwed Version) 3
Killer Mike – Monster 2
Dizzee Rascal – Boy in the Corner 1
Kanye West – I’m Good Mixtape 1

― s>c>, Thursday, 5 February 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Dizzee will win

― sym (shmuel), Friday, 6 February 2004 01:46 (twenty-two years ago)

5 - Non-Prophets - Hope
5 - Brother Ali - Shadows On The Sun

(I love Dizz, Jay, and others but I figured I'd vote all politico.)

― ben welsh (benwelsh), Friday, 6 February 2004 03:19 (twenty-two years ago)

OMG is the Brother Ali good? I love all the songs I've heard by him, and he's pretty ignored.

― sym (shmuel), Friday, 6 February 2004 03:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah, it's a real solid album. Very well rounded, like 15 good songs. He's a very strong lyricist and songwriter. Nearly everysong has a good hook and he does a lot of different things (battlerap, story tell, crack jokes, etc.) very well.

The beats were done by Ant from Atmosphere and I think it's his best (and certainly most consistant) work to date.

I would heartily suggest you purchase/download it. If you like what you've heard so far, you're sure to like the album.

― ben welsh (benwelsh), Friday, 6 February 2004 04:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Votes have been counted - the results:

1) Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner - 54 votes
2) Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below - 45 votes
3) Bubba Sparxxx - Deliverance - 43 votes
4) Jay-Z - The Black Album - 32 votes
5) David Banner - Mississippi: The Album - 20 votes
6) (tie)David Banner - Mississipi: The Screwed and Chopped Album &
MF Doom as Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain - both on 18 votes
7) Non-Prophets - Hope - 14 votes
8) (tie) VA: Ragga Ragga Ragga! 2003 & Ying Yang Twins - Me & My Brother - both on 13 votes
9) 50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Tryin' - 12 votes
10) Atmosphere - Seven's Travels - 10 votes

― Jedmond, Friday, 6 February 2004 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I predicted it! Amazing.

― sym (shmuel), Friday, 6 February 2004 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

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