Favorite band who have NO classic albums

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You love 'em, but they just haven't been able to put together one solid album. Not even greatest hits.

David Allen (David Allen), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 00:24 (twenty years ago) link

the "not even greatest hits" thing discounts everyone that comes to mind, sorry.

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 00:27 (twenty years ago) link

Green Day don't have a *totally* classic album, just five great tracks on each one and a hella filler.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 00:34 (twenty years ago) link

The Police

bahtology, Wednesday, 28 January 2004 00:42 (twenty years ago) link

No "solid" albums or no "classic" albums?

I don't think The Verve ever made a truly classic record. About 1/3 of each album was always blah.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 00:46 (twenty years ago) link

Synchronicity wasn't solid?!???

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 00:47 (twenty years ago) link

Giant Sand

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 00:47 (twenty years ago) link

I want to say Stephen Malkmus and the Jicks but I truly believe "Pig Lib" will be one day hailed as a classic.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 00:53 (twenty years ago) link

dillinja (ok, he ain't a band)

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago) link

Sightings

Jon Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago) link

The Who

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 00:57 (twenty years ago) link

The Faint. Combined both Blank Wave and Danse Macabre for a really fucking solid record if it existed as one, obviously.

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:01 (twenty years ago) link

Vitalic! Or is it cheating if they haven't released an album, period?

nate detritus (natedetritus), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:06 (twenty years ago) link

add the term 'to my iPod' to the last post I made

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:08 (twenty years ago) link

on my iPod

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:08 (twenty years ago) link

Diana Ross & The Supremes, Jackson Five, The Miracles.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:10 (twenty years ago) link

Read the first post again Geir. Including the last four words.

pete s, Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

There is no such thing as a band or artist that has neither managed to put together a classic album nor a greatest hits anyway. I mean, I don't consider Bolland classic just because of "You're In The Army Now"....

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

Arab Strap.

Stupid (Stupid), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:21 (twenty years ago) link

ah good one

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:23 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah I'd have a hard time picking a band I love, yet has no classic albums *including* greatest hits.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:23 (twenty years ago) link

bar-b-q killers

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

Tall Dwarfs & Chris Knox. Them plus Giant Sand could easily HAVE a great greatest hits comp (all albums usually have three classics on them), but they haven't put it out so they qualify.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

beta band? or do the 3 e.p.'s count as an album? i did like the first one, but i dunno if i would call it classic. they have enough good songs to make one spectacular album.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:27 (twenty years ago) link

The Alcoholiks
Method Man
Busta Rhymes

lots of rappers actually

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:28 (twenty years ago) link

M.O.P.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:29 (twenty years ago) link

Crime

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:29 (twenty years ago) link

anthony,

I'm not sure how familiar you are with Giant Sand but I just wanted to let you know that they have two in-print greatest hits compilations (one released 15 years ago and the other 10 years ago).

I'm not sure if you buy your music but like I mentioned before, they are both in-print and are highly recommended!

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:29 (twenty years ago) link

The Police

these guys were turdburglars of the highest order, but Every Breath You Take is a very enjoyable comp. Both in its SingleS and Classics versions. And Busta Rhymes, while not a turdburglar (though for some reason I associate him with the Hamburglar), also has a good comp.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:29 (twenty years ago) link

Rocket From The Tombs

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:30 (twenty years ago) link

Clinic

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:31 (twenty years ago) link

oops didn't know busta had a comp....Anthony: define turdburgler.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:32 (twenty years ago) link

gygax, if yer referring to the Giant Sandwich comps, they are pretty good, but I can't really push them into classic territory.

Matt, one who burgles turds.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:32 (twenty years ago) link

The only classic Giant Sand album is the CD-R I plan to make out of every album of theirs I own but am getting rid of.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:33 (twenty years ago) link

fair enough....why are the police considered turdburglers and busta not?

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:34 (twenty years ago) link

anthony,

the giant sandwich comp is a singles/rarities collection.

i'm referring to the giant songs vols. 1 + 2 which are greatest hits compilations and might be worth checking out (if only for the tracklistings to compare).

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:36 (twenty years ago) link

konk

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:37 (twenty years ago) link

if you exclude greatest hits, the obvious choice for me would be depeche mode ... EVERY ONE of their (non GH) albums has at least ONE crap tune that stinks up the joint.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:38 (twenty years ago) link

:-(

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:39 (twenty years ago) link

I'll check those out, thanks Gygax!

man for a second I wasn't sure if Blount was naming a band or just making a sound effect.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:39 (twenty years ago) link

Clinic

nrugaghaughgghahgahghggggggWHA?

nate detritus (natedetritus), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:42 (twenty years ago) link

The Strokes

(hee hee)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:43 (twenty years ago) link

not only do I disagree with the choice of Clinic and the Strokes (debuts are ace), I'm kinda disappointed people are sticking with bands that have only put out a smattering of material. Let's sock it to some veteran icons (that we consider faves, remember)!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:45 (twenty years ago) link

Arab Strap
Ryan Adams (between Whiskeytown, solo and demos/unreleased stuff, you could have one great album)

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:46 (twenty years ago) link

(I was just trying to wind Nate up by saying the Strokes - i think both albums are classics, personally)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 01:56 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, I kinda figured.

A case of almosts: take away '69, and I would definitely put Led Zeppelin as my pick.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 02:08 (twenty years ago) link

BECK!!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 02:15 (twenty years ago) link

i want to say Ash but i have a lot of time for their singles collection... but is it classic?

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 02:16 (twenty years ago) link

take away '69, and I would definitely put Led Zeppelin as my pick.

what in tarnation? I'm not going to defend CLINIC AND THE STROKES with some guy who can't appreciate Zoso and Houses Of The Holy

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 02:17 (twenty years ago) link

and I just remembered yer fave track off Houses is frikkin' "No Quarter" of all things! BEGONE, YE MENACE!

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 02:19 (twenty years ago) link

Maybe I muddled that: four phenomenal songs, two I don't like, five others I'm basically indifferent to--but those five sound okay if I'm playing the whole album through.

For me, that's a classic album, but for most people, I don't think that would qualify.

clemenza, Friday, 18 August 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

Gary's Got a Boner and Tommy Got His Tonsils out are fucking awesome!

actually Stink is classic too

every song is great in Let It Be IMO, including their Kiss cover

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 August 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

<i> my four favourite songs--"Let It Be"</i>
I Will Dare?

campreverb, Friday, 18 August 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link

In fact, I would argue that Westerberg's failure to understand that "Gary's Got a Boner" is an intrinsic part of the Replacement's greatness is exactly why he went about ruining the band, ending up at the rote professional respectability of All Shook Down

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 August 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link

(xpost) Yes--guess I think of it as the title track or something...I can understand that argument, and I know that's a side of the band many people love (or at least always wanted it there for that reason, as a kind of ballast). I never liked it, though; it just got in the way for me.

clemenza, Friday, 18 August 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link

It's not just the songs that make an album a "classic", it can also be albums that mark a notable turning point in popular music (Autobahn), or an album which was noted for its production advances (Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band), the way it captures a time/period/mood (Technique, A Hard Day's Night, (What's the Story) Morning Glory?) or successfully captures an artist or band in a less than ideal situation/unusual headspace (Rumours, The Madcap Laughs, Oar) or triumphing against the odds (Everything Must Go, Hysteria) ... it can be the most finely crafted piece of music with the best session musicians and studio personnel (Aja) or a quickly knocked out, yet raw and potent document (Pink Moon) ... it can be the story of a band battling with a producer to create a beautiful work (Skylarking) or something that was created seemingly effortlessly yet resonated with a lot of people (Automatic for the People) or an album with a reputation that has only increased in the years since its release... there's no set criteria, and no set pattern, but you sure as hell know one when you hear it.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 18 August 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link

OTM

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 August 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link

clemenza accept gary's boner into your heart and you will be saved

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 August 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link

I mean, you won't see a copy of Trout Mask Replica in every household in the world, and (for example) 'The Blimp (mousetrapreplica)' is hardly what one would call a "standard", but it's still a classic album for a zillion reasons, both relating to the music contained within and the story of how that music came to be.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 18 August 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link

As Turrican describes it, Let It Be is absolutely a classic album. No exaggeration when I say that it defines 1984 for me far more than Purple Rain or Born in the U.S.A.. Not a big fan of the '80s in general, but I feel lucky to have been just the right age (23) when Let It Be came out.

clemenza, Friday, 18 August 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link

I'm not a fan of The Replacements, but I know that Let It Be is generally regarded to be a classic for its own set of reasons.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Friday, 18 August 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

Some of the albums being described as classic on this thread *boak*

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Friday, 18 August 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link

accept gary's boner into your heart and you will be saved

Dying at this.

tom d have you said Chou Pahrot on this thread yet?

starving street dogs of punk rock (Odysseus), Friday, 18 August 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

I did accept Gary's boner into my heart, but, in advance of Monday, there was also a total eclipse going on in there, and basically all hell broke loose.

clemenza, Friday, 18 August 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link

I think some people consider "classic" to mean famous or maybe infamous; others consider it to mean a measure of aesthetic appeal.

I have no idea, but I'll say WEEN.

nicky lo-fi, Friday, 18 August 2017 22:23 (six years ago) link

I'd say anything in the top 1000 albums on AcclaimedMusic probably should count as a classic album for the purposes of this thread. By that measure, the Replacements and Capt. Beefheart have 3(!) apiece, Fleetwood Mac have 2, Can have 1, and ELO, Wishbone Ash, Blue Oyster Cult have none.

o. nate, Saturday, 19 August 2017 00:47 (six years ago) link

Chocolate & Cheese, 12 Golden Country Greats, The Mollusk and GodWeenSatan are all 24 karat classic albums. also this might be the worst thread in ILM history and I regret clicking on it.

shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Saturday, 19 August 2017 00:56 (six years ago) link

Blue Oyster Cult had no less than 3 classic albums

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 August 2017 01:34 (six years ago) link

"Secret Treaties" is a stone-cold classic in my book. But for this thread it seems more constructive to use an objective definition.

o. nate, Saturday, 19 August 2017 01:56 (six years ago) link

also this might be the worst thread in ILM history and I regret clicking on it.

If this doesn't become the new board description, my life is a lie.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Saturday, 19 August 2017 02:58 (six years ago) link

Blue Oyster Cult had no less than 3 classic albums

I'm probably the wrong weirdo to ask, but:
Secret Treaties
On Your Feet...
Fire of Unknown Origin
IMO, with three other albums barely relegated to the second tier
(It is permissible to swap Tyranny for On Your Feet... but I like those songs rampaging the fuck out)

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 19 August 2017 03:33 (six years ago) link

I'd say LCD Soundsystem is contender although we'll see what this new album delivers (personally I'm pretty excited by the possibilities given the first three releases). I was super let down by their first album in comparison to the singles and previously leaked tracks - "Tribulations" had been floating around out there for ages. "Daft Punk is Playing in My House" is still the worst song in their catalog, so thin and groove-less compared to the artists Murphy is namechecking and I wish it would forever disappear from their live sets.

Obviously the next two are highly regarded by most but I still find them pretty wobbly all up and held up by some amazing tracks.

yesca, Saturday, 19 August 2017 12:48 (six years ago) link

ELO obv.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 August 2017 12:58 (six years ago) link

Jon I personally feel Agents of Fortune is pretty perfect AOR menaceb and I meant T&M but FoUO and On Your Feet are great too, Blue Oyster Cult were too amazing

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 August 2017 13:00 (six years ago) link

Are we confusing "classic" and "flawless"? If the latter, then many acts whose albums I love -- whose albums I consider "classic" in every sense -- have, as clemenza wrote about the Mats, have imperfect albums. The acts are more endearing that way.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 August 2017 13:07 (six years ago) link

also this might be the worst thread in ILM history and I regret clicking on it.

lol yeah it does seem entirely pointless. just because you don't like one song on an album that is still namechecked in every issue of Mojo doesn't mean it isn't classic.

there really aren't any good answers. i guess you could look for acts before 1966 when singles were the industry focus over albums.

or maybe the one hit wonder you like. the problem is usually if you have a favorite band past seeing them as a one hit wonder you probably like the whole album that hit is on. not sure you can have a favorite band and not consider them classic wo some kind of self delusion involved.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 19 August 2017 16:07 (six years ago) link

just because you don't like one song on an album that is still namechecked in every issue of Mojo doesn't mean it isn't classic.

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 August 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link

Feel like you're over the strike through limit

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 August 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link

Haha

Neanderthal, Saturday, 19 August 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link

Yeah, it was a chore getting that right.

Wewlay Bewlay (Tom D.), Saturday, 19 August 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

i dunno im fine with Rock As Institution and the music press has always defined what is classic at least in the public sphere. the album itself is most relevant here, feel like classic rock canon is appropriate if we are taking the album seriously as a construct.

now that we have the global internet and instant access post-tangible music things are different and that hegemony is becoming less and less relevant. yet it can still be one valid point of view, observed from the future for all its quaintness and moral failings, to keep in mind while we create our newly democratized, personal historical canons.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 19 August 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link

I think what's been missed here is the 'favourite' band.

I.e. My fav band The Boo Radleys. But, they clearly have one classic album, "Giant Steps"

Spearmint? Oh but "A week away" so not them either.

How about T Rex? used to be a fav of mine, but does Marc have a classic album? Mmmmmmmm....

Mark G, Saturday, 19 August 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link

The Slider!

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 19 August 2017 19:01 (six years ago) link

See, I like "zip gun boogie" I'd call it a classic and no duff tracks, was surprised to discover its considered his almost worst album.

Maybe my opinion is coloured because (you know this bit) but I don't think so.

Mark G, Sunday, 20 August 2017 08:50 (six years ago) link

gotta be laid back - can any band rival a set of singles like bakerman, white horse, sunshine reggae and fly away?

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Sunday, 20 August 2017 10:15 (six years ago) link

*greatest artist of all time drops the greatest album of all time*
I Love Music forum: "haha this is mostly shit it has like 3 good songs"

the old rugged crocs (unregistered), Sunday, 20 August 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link

*bargain bin album known as colossal failure and joke in band's discography*

"this is secretly their best album, guys"

Neanderthal, Sunday, 20 August 2017 14:45 (six years ago) link

How about T Rex? used to be a fav of mine, but does Marc have a classic album?

Marc? Yes, Unicorn.

timellison, Monday, 21 August 2017 01:55 (six years ago) link

dr feelgood

constitutional crises they fly at u face (will), Monday, 21 August 2017 02:48 (six years ago) link

Electric Warrior is the canon T.Rex album.

he doesn't need to be racist about it though. (Austin), Monday, 21 August 2017 02:49 (six years ago) link

"Daft Punk is Playing in My House" is still the worst song in their catalog, so thin and groove-less compared to the artists Murphy is namechecking and I wish it would forever disappear from their live sets.

agreed that the studio version is pretty lame - from the very first time I heard it I couldn't stop hearing the "Back in Black" riff - but it does sound pretty great live. IMO its their most improved in a live setting, its like 10x more fun and energetic

frogbs, Monday, 21 August 2017 02:52 (six years ago) link

luda is a good answer

I Love You, Fancybear (symsymsym), Thursday, 24 August 2017 05:21 (six years ago) link

Mazzy Star. There's no reason to classify one album as classic as over - this band has a formula that is effective on any release.

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 24 August 2017 05:30 (six years ago) link

Yeah obviously T-rex have at least Electric Warrior (and I would count The Slider and Tanx too).

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 24 August 2017 05:44 (six years ago) link

the slider is classic

Week of Wonders (Ross), Thursday, 24 August 2017 05:45 (six years ago) link

T. Rex self-titled is short, every song is awesome, combines his electric boogie with full-flower fantasy lyrics, and has some of my favorite guitar sounds of all time

harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 24 August 2017 11:38 (six years ago) link

TRex sound/production is so incredible in its simplicity and austere perfection.
There's almost nothing but somehow it works and you can enjoy albums of the same thing !

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 24 August 2017 14:30 (six years ago) link

t rex has at least 3 classic albums!!!!

marcos, Thursday, 24 August 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link

electric warrior and the slider are all time

s/t and tanx are excellent

marcos, Thursday, 24 August 2017 14:39 (six years ago) link


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