The track "Starless" is one of the most stunning tunes evah!
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 12 February 2004 02:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 12 February 2004 02:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 12 February 2004 02:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:01 (twenty years ago) link
Destroys: In the Wake of Poseidon; ThrakAttack (zzzzz); actually, pretty much everything they've done after Thrak has yielded uninspired results--certainly Construkction of Light and Power to Believe were disappointing to me.
― Joe (Joe), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:06 (twenty years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:32 (twenty years ago) link
― (Jon L), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:04 (twenty years ago) link
1. Starless and Bible black 2. Red 3. lark's Tongue in Aspic
I think this line-up is my favorite , the two albums they put out in 1974 are both great( starless and red).
― steven schenk (skenker), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Jole, Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:21 (twenty years ago) link
and "The Great Deceiver" is one of the best riffs ever
classic all the way
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:29 (twenty years ago) link
― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:43 (twenty years ago) link
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:48 (twenty years ago) link
I picked them up cheap recently 'though so we shall see; FWIW I'm actually extremely partial to ConstruKCtion Of Light and that one doesn't seem to be held in particularly hight esteem either!
With all that said, my faves of the ones I've got are actually sadly predictable:- In The Court Of The Crimson King- Discipline
Can I also put in a good word for Desire Of The Rhino King by Adrian Belew?
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 12 February 2004 10:06 (twenty years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 12 February 2004 11:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Thursday, 12 February 2004 11:18 (twenty years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Thursday, 12 February 2004 11:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Thursday, 12 February 2004 12:29 (twenty years ago) link
― Rocco, Thursday, 12 February 2004 13:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:37 (twenty years ago) link
I sold their first four studio albums during the height of my KC fandom, intending to buy the remasters (ha). Then I got interested in other things and never felt like spending the money to replace them.
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:39 (twenty years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:52 (twenty years ago) link
SEARCH: the entire 80's era, i.e. Discipline, Beat and Three of a Perfect Pair (although don't rush out of the house to go buy Beat, honestly). Also, In the Court of the Crimson King and Red (I know, not wildly original choices, these) are both jaw-droppingly great.
DESTROY: the 90's "double trio" Crims, and even more so everything after the departure of Tony Levin. Fuck Trey Gunn.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:02 (twenty years ago) link
Check the entry for last Thursday.
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:06 (twenty years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:09 (twenty years ago) link
This is why I can still put up with Robert Fripp from time to time.
― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:21 (twenty years ago) link
I think the Thrak band is underrated. Sure, it's kind of a big mess, but sometimes it's as good as the 80s band with a lot more NOISE and percussion flying around, which can be pretty cool.
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:32 (twenty years ago) link
when is this ever not the case. usually cripplingly so.
I also like Fripp's comments about the music industry, the meat starts down around the question 'why independent', but anyone who's been buying the DGM releases has seen this text in the liner notes ten times over...
actually I've heard from diehard fans that Crimson had caught their wind on the last tour. everyone seems to agree that the previous tours were just fingernail torture.
― (Jon L), Thursday, 12 February 2004 19:34 (twenty years ago) link
I also just decided that most of the Power to Believe is pretty strong, certainly better than Construction of Light.
Tracks to search: 21st Century Schizoid Man (duh), Moonchild, Cat Food, Formentera Lady/Sailors Tale, the Letters (for the arpeggio pattern), Larks Tongues 1 & 2, Great Deceiver, Fracture, Red, Starless, Discipline, Frame by Frame, Sheltering Sky, Neil and jack and Me, REquiem, Sartori in Tangier, 3 of a perfect pair, Sleepless, Nuages, Industry, Larks Tongue 3, walking on air, one time, sex sleep eat drink dream, vrooom, thrak, larks tonue 4 (live version), eyes wide open, level 5, dangerous curves.
Also, a lot of the Red-era stuff I didn't mention is better in live versions (easy money, etc).
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Thursday, 12 February 2004 19:47 (twenty years ago) link
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― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 February 2004 20:17 (twenty years ago) link
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― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 February 2004 20:44 (twenty years ago) link
― fcussen (Burger), Thursday, 12 February 2004 20:55 (twenty years ago) link
No, it's not a good thing...it's a GREAT thing!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 12 February 2004 21:08 (twenty years ago) link
Hee hee.
I'd say classic and my faves are Lizard, Islands, Starless, and Red (Lark's Tongue I think I have but acquired after I stopped listening to them so that I don't really have much of an opinion). I like the odd 80s track that I've heard but I don't think I've ever listened to an entire 80s album.
― nickn (nickn), Thursday, 12 February 2004 21:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Thursday, 12 February 2004 22:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Bryan (Bryan), Thursday, 12 February 2004 22:45 (twenty years ago) link
Oh, I agree totally! "Pictures of a City" is structurally like a carbon copy of "Schizoid Man". I still love both records too. Which is why I couldn't understand why Joe Lakeside said in his post to "search" the first one & "destroy" Poseidon...
― Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 12 February 2004 22:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Friday, 13 February 2004 00:03 (twenty years ago) link
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 13 February 2004 00:03 (twenty years ago) link
― bahtology, Friday, 13 February 2004 00:15 (twenty years ago) link
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Friday, 13 February 2004 00:15 (twenty years ago) link
― bahtology, Friday, 13 February 2004 03:27 (twenty years ago) link
Search "the great deceiver" box disc 3
Destroy Prozakc Blues with extreme prejudice.
― Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Wednesday, 10 May 2006 00:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 00:49 (seventeen years ago) link
plus, it seems that, since the vogue for early '80s post-punk goes on and on, folks that like Franz, Arctic Ms, Interpol and Bloc party would dig the '80s Crim… or maybe not, since them folks seem to be anti-virtuosity…
― veronica moser (veronica moser), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 11:34 (seventeen years ago) link
It's a toughie
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Joe, Friday, 23 March 2007 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link
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― marissa, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 00:59 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Surmounter, Thursday, 3 May 2007 01:00 (sixteen years ago) link
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― Surmounter, Thursday, 3 May 2007 01:36 (sixteen years ago) link
wetton's kind of a weird one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZIPwZ6BaBg
― gershy, Saturday, 9 June 2007 06:29 (sixteen years ago) link
Surmounter if you like Larks' and perhaps by now, Starless & Bible Black, you of course should cop Red which is the unbelievably heavy studio pinnacle of that line-up.
Most of all though, treat yourself eventually to some live recordings from this era. The newish release of what used to be called USA, now called Asbury Park 1974 (the USA version has overdubs, the new one doesn't), is just maybe the apotheosis of the Wetton era. As with only the very awesomest of live discs, listening to it I can't believe people actually sat in an audience and SAW THIS.
― Jon Lewis, Saturday, 9 June 2007 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link
is that a download only from dgm? I can't seem to find the album
― akm, Saturday, 9 June 2007 20:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Yep. http://www.dgmlive.com/archive.htm?artist=5&show=419
― Rock Hardy, Saturday, 9 June 2007 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link
I think maybe it's been released on CDin one of these DGM 2-fers I've been seeing around... no?
― Jon Lewis, Saturday, 9 June 2007 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, it's on Vol. 1 of the "Collectable King Crimson" 2-fer CDs (the other concert on Vol. 1 is "Mainz 1974").
― Joe, Saturday, 9 June 2007 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Let's go off the beaten path and try
the nonreleased and improv tracks on Vrooom and Vrooom Vrooom
and get the Heavy ConstruKction album for the new songs and improvs
I can't remember the names of my favorite songs this way but ccccSeizurecc, Uböö, Cage, and Blastic Rhino all seem to ring a bell
this is stuff you won't find on Thrak, The Constukction of light, and The Power To Believe albums
― CaptainLorax, Sunday, 10 June 2007 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.kimmopohjonen.com/img/kTU/KTU815press2-L.jpg
HMMM
― Davey D, Monday, 11 June 2007 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link
I can't find a thread for the Discipline album.
Frame by Frame has endeared itself to my heart over the last couple of weeks big time.
― Bimble, Wednesday, 29 August 2007 04:49 (sixteen years ago) link
nothing rocks me quite like "Red"
― poortheatre, Sunday, 9 September 2007 07:53 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm really excited about The Great Deceiver being re-released now. I've wanted that for years, but not found it. As good as some of the studio albums are, they always (or at least since the Wetton years) were a better live group than studio band. For those who're not familiar, TGD is a 4-disc collection of live recordings from 1973 and 1974. It's now being put out as two 2-disc sets, new packaging, but no changes whatsoever to the content of the discs themselves.
Have to admit that I would've preferred the original box being re-released as it was, as I'm not too fond of the artwork they go for these days. I also got the impression that the original liner notes are just included as a PDF this time, which is odd. But what the hell, the packaging and booklet is rarely of interest after the first day.
Further info: Elephant Talk | Wikipedia
― Øystein, Sunday, 9 September 2007 08:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Here ya go, Bimble:
Defend The Hypothetically Defensible: King Crimson's Discipline
― Myonga Vön Bontee, Sunday, 9 September 2007 08:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Well done! Cheers.
― Bimble, Sunday, 9 September 2007 09:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Larks Tongues in Aspic is nothing short of amazing. I feel/fear I might be going in to that Crimson phase I've been putting off for so long now...
― sonderangerbot, Tuesday, 11 November 2008 03:38 (fifteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZyysKcJLmM
:(
― Turangalila, Thursday, 16 July 2009 06:28 (fourteen years ago) link
I want this vinyl reissue of In The Wake Of Poseidon!!!
- 200g Super-Heavyweight Vinyl- Newly cut from Robert Fripp approved masters- Reprint of Original Stunning Gatefold Sleeve- Limited Time MP3 Code for access to download transfer of an original 1970 pressing
― sleeve, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
Here's some siqq ass rare 80s footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiS2LZhLvYw
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 15 March 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link