The realization that most of those really pretty rock ballads from the 80s were more than likely written about disgusting teenage groupie whores

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I mean, some of those songs, by the likes of Motley Crue, LA Guns, and to a lesser extent Poison, Warrant, Cinderella, Winger etc are really nice 'rock ballads' in the tradition - but it dawned on me recently that most of them were written about sluts.

Not that "Living Loving Maid" or your garden variety modern r&b radio hit isn't about sluts, but...think about all the "girls gone wild" from the 80s hair metal videos who make these latter day sorority types look like Tipper Gore.

"Every Rose Has It's Thorn" may have very well been written about a 16 year old girl who let Bret Michaels stick things in her ass. Or the subject of "Home Sweet Home" may have been about a career groupie who always let the Motleys gang bang her when they came to St Louis.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 10 April 2004 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm going with Dud, but only because I'm a bitter and jealous man who never had hordes of young ladies throwing themselves at me.

And what ever happened to the groupie culture? Did it kinda fall off with the 80's or did it just shift over to hip-hop? Is it just the white trash Kid Rock contingent that still scores the over-the-top groupie love in rock (and I use the term loosesly here..) these days?

― Travelin' Smith, Saturday, 10 April 2004 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

If it hadn't been for a "slut" I might still be a virgin today.

― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 10 April 2004 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Classic

― David Allen (David Allen), Saturday, 10 April 2004 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Good question, Smith. I mean, Kid Rock has groupies, but they're not copmpletely dissimilar to Bright Eyes's groupies, in that, they won't take a live animal up the bum for laughs, won't take a donkey punch for the team. No, the Hammer of the Gods-style groupie excess is surely a thing of the past, and I'll tell you why - because now the groupies are the stars. Some record exec decided to let these Bebe Buells sing and now we have Shakira, Xtina, etc.

Then again, we could be wrong - maybe it's just more 'secret' now what with all of our 'awareness' these days. Maybe the unmarried 3/4 of Coldplay has a rip roaring time with the young girls backstage. But I doubt it.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 10 April 2004 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I love the idea of a huge underground groupie sub-culture.

Instead of secret handshakes they have secret handjobs; instead of codenames they have the results of their latest HIV test pinned to their halter tops.

― Travelin' Smith, Saturday, 10 April 2004 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Interpol.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 10 April 2004 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Your local bad hardcore band gets tons of 16 year old gash!

― Lil' Fancy Kpants (The K is Silent) (ex machina), Saturday, 10 April 2004 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: teenage groupie whores vs. deeply disturbed sex hating old record collectors who are overly reverential about Sonic Youth.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 10 April 2004 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)

"disgusting teenage groupie whores"=extremely dud formulation

"a 16 year old girl who let Bret Michaels stick things in her ass"=you have some issues to resolve

― bugged out, Saturday, 10 April 2004 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

"deeply disturbed sex hating old record collectors who are overly reverential about Sonic Youth"

this of course being me.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 10 April 2004 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)

haha

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Saturday, 10 April 2004 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Never let it be said Roger isn't quick on the uptake.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Saturday, 10 April 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I love the idea of a huge underground groupie sub-culture.

The Groupie Central Message Board is the nearest thing I know of to a formal groupie network. The main Groupie Central site was taken down after Bebe Buell sued them, but it used to contain reports on various rockers' (and some hip-hoppers') inclinations.

What really surprises me is the number of 80s hair metal stars who still have significant groupie followings.

― j.lu (j.lu), Saturday, 10 April 2004 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

"Every Rose Has It's Thorn" may have very well been written about a 16 year old girl who let Bret Michaels stick things in her ass.

This sentence has made my day complete.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 10 April 2004 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

bugged out OTM, what's wrong with whores or songs about them?

― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 10 April 2004 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

if a 16 yr old girl let me stick things in her ass i would write a song about it, and it would probably be the best song i have ever written since i was 12.

― joel, Saturday, 10 April 2004 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

>now the groupies are the stars. Some record exec decided to let these Bebe Buells sing and now we have Shakira, Xtina, etc.

That's right, because these girls obviously haven't been pursuing singing careers since they were six years old; they clearly got where they are because they polished some exec's knob in a label men's room. Jesus, you're an asshole. E-mail me your phone number; I'll give it to Max Hardcore. You two would get along great.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 10 April 2004 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Limp Bizkit's best song is about a cookie up someone's yeah!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 10 April 2004 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)

This is like the inverse of sarcasm.

― Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, 10 April 2004 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Limp Bizkit's best song is about a cookie up someone's yeah!

Fred Durst, a man who makes up his own definitions of 'eating out'.

― cis (cis), Saturday, 10 April 2004 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.deftonesworld.com/pics/shirts/fred03.jpg

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 10 April 2004 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

"they clearly got where they are because they polished some exec's knob in a label men's room"

bingo.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 10 April 2004 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"clearly" being the operative word

who's this Max Hardcore? Perhaps we can do some keg stands together and go rally for Bush

wot a dum dum you are

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 10 April 2004 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Max Hardcore

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 10 April 2004 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, see, now the fact that you knew such a site even existed is indicative of your scaredy-cat nature. I hold an opinion that is unpopular (but true), and you get your panties in a twist about how insensitive I am. Fair enough. But then you link me to a site that forces me to lunge at the screen, shielding it from the eyes of my baby sister, who I'm hangin' with today, hitting the 'back' button as fast as I can. My cards are on the table, Mr Fugazi. Don't be so senstive, especially when a pervert lurks behind all that righteous indignation.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 10 April 2004 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

>Ah, see, now the fact that you knew such a site even existed is indicative of your scaredy-cat nature.

Though I personally don't like what he does, Max is a colleague and a friend. I'm nobody's "scaredy-cat"; I work in the porn business during the day, and write about free jazz and death metal at night. But I find your attitude sexist and repugnant, and glimmers of some fairly distressing misogyny are peering through, too.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 10 April 2004 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I hope to hell they're doing more than peering. But that's beside the point.

Since you work so closely with the exact type of people I criticized above, I wonder how many other 'colleagues' do you know that have been honing their crafts dilligently since the age of six? I guess you meet plenty of atom-splitters in your line of work, eh?

My point is that you of all people should be able to relate to what I'm talking about.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 10 April 2004 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree w/ Phil - this thread is vile on every level, and I'm sick of Jon Williams writing 'fag' and 'gash' on every other fuckin' thread, too - I wish I didn't share many of the same tastes as these 'hardcore' bozos

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Saturday, 10 April 2004 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Why? What's the difference?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 10 April 2004 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

>I guess you meet plenty of atom-splitters in your line of work, eh?

I number at least three porn stars among the smartest women I've ever met.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 10 April 2004 23:01 (twenty-two years ago)

i bet roger thinks girls don't really poop either

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 10 April 2004 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I don't know about pooping, but I can tell you from experience they sure don't do the dishes or laundry. Not in this house, anyway.

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 10 April 2004 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I just figured out who you are. You're Dave Sim! Now that Cerebus is finished, I guess we'll be seeing you around here a lot, huh?

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 10 April 2004 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Another cultural reference that eludes me. Try again.

(Hint: I only really know about things involving Blue Oyster Cult and Mickey Rourke)

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 10 April 2004 23:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess you find it even tougher to be smug in the real world, huh?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 10 April 2004 23:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I love Cerebus!

http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/brad/cerebus.gif

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 10 April 2004 23:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I number at least three porn stars among the smartest women I've ever met.

I hate to broadly generalize, but c'mon. I'm sure many of them are sweet and lovely girls, and I feel sorry for them because they are almost certainly trauma/abuse survivors, but these girls aren't saying to themselves when they get out of school (if they make it that far), "Should I go to Harvard or let skeevy guys cover me in their fluids day after day?..."

Or it is possible they really are some of tghe smartest people you've ever met. I'm sure working in porno doesn't afford many oppurtunities to rub shoulders with the Stephen Hawkings of the world.

I'm just sayin' is all.

― Travelin' Smith, Saturday, 10 April 2004 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, I must thank j. lu for directing my attention towards the groupie central message board without which i wouldn't have learned such interesting tidbits like this (talking about Howie Day):

Howie's definitely not the type to hook up w/ groupies. He is pretty reserved, and keeps to himself. He's also pretty faithful to whoever his girlfriend is at the time. If you're looking to hook up, look elsewhere.

Didn't he just beat the crap our of some girl on his tour bus when she wouldn't sleep with him?

AND:

>It's almost summer and the Leps are touring this year
>:) Does Joe cheat on his girlfriend Bobbie and does
>she tour with the band? Any stories and does anyone
>know if there are pics of Bobbie online?
>
>Thanks in advance
>LL

Yes, Joe DOES cheat, frequently. She shows up in certain cities from time to time, but she doesn't actually tour with the band - only sometimes.

Haha, this site is GOLD!

― Travelin' Smith, Saturday, 10 April 2004 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

>I hate to broadly generalize, but c'mon. I'm sure many of them are sweet and lovely girls, and I feel sorry for them because they are almost certainly trauma/abuse survivors, but these girls aren't saying to themselves when they get out of school (if they make it that far), "Should I go to Harvard or let skeevy guys cover me in their fluids day after day?..."

Which broad generalization did you hate more: that porn girls are stupid, or that they're all abuse survivors? Seriously, I'm not saying all porn girls are smart. Some of them are incredibly dumb, and I've said as much on this board before. I am saying, though, that I know three who are really smart. At least two of those three have degrees—the other one, I haven't asked.

>Or it is possible they really are some of the smartest people you've ever met. I'm sure working in porno doesn't afford many opportunities to rub shoulders with the Stephen Hawkings of the world.

Porn people are smart enough to get themselves involved in a recession-proof business...if nothing else, that makes 'em smarter than people in the music industry.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 11 April 2004 00:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Porn people are smart enough to get themselves involved in a recession-proof business...if nothing else, that makes 'em smarter than people in the music industry.

or any of a number of industries (ask some computer programmer, accountant, and attorney friends of yers right about now).

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 11 April 2004 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I think it would be a fair assumption to say that, yes, most porn stars are abuse/trauma survivors. I don't mean to imply that this makes them bad people, mind you. And I'm not some raving anti-porn nutjob, either. I just believe it's statistically accurate.

― Travelin' Smith, Sunday, 11 April 2004 00:21 (twenty-two years ago)

and i suspect that this "pretty ballads for groupies" thing is MUCH more common than 80s hair metal or contemporary hip-hop acts. i mean, SURELY folks like robert smith, james taylor, martin gore, etc. wrote songs about chicks who yanked THEIR respective cranks!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 11 April 2004 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Groupie culture is still alive and well, but it's no longer new or shocking.
Partly because it's been around long enough, partly because society has
become more sexualized; sluts are not so far outside the norm.

What is not disgusting about groupies, BTW?

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 11 April 2004 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

And porn stars are the "house slaves" of feminism.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 11 April 2004 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

to the person who cited "statistical accuracy" - what statistics are you basing that on?

― don, Sunday, 11 April 2004 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I work in the porn business during the day, and write about free jazz and death metal at night.

Do you solve mysteries on weekends?

― David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 11 April 2004 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

calling people "disgusting whores": C/D?

personally, i reckon it's rather dud

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Sunday, 11 April 2004 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)

contempt for women who like sex = so very fucking dud.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Sunday, 11 April 2004 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)

equating women who like sex with underage runaways passed around
by lecherous mulletheads, like so many graham crackers = even
more dud.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 11 April 2004 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Skipping 35 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

oh man, now I gotta get rid of my Merle Haggard wallpaper and replace it with that genius cartoon! I'm impressed and flattered - Thanks!

By the way, if you'd added a lot of greasy brown hair, that picture looks exactly like me

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Don, you need to redraw that picture so that the girl is having a shark jammed up her vagina. But the guy will still be saying the same thing.

― David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Alex, you're taste is music is pretty sharp, but you can
be a neolithic jerk when you put your mind to it. Random insults
aren't so hard, why don't you tell us why you're upset instead.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Roger is dumb because he seems to hear hears debauchery behind
every lyrics; not because he thinks debauchery is disgusting

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Fuck typos.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not upset about anything. I just think this thread, the person who started and many of the people posting on it have a really disturbing view of women who have sex.

Also your last post is completely wrong. Roger is a sick fucking weirdo because he seems to hear debauchery behind every lyric and a puritan pig because he thinks women who have sex are whores and sluts.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Alex, you seem think that whores and sluts are women who have sex.
That's just as misguided.
Are you denying that whores and sluts exist?

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Or, I should say MERELY women who have sex.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

And that seems truly insulting to your average non-slut
"woman who has sex."

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)

what the fuck are you talking about.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree with Alex. There's something rather disturbing about some of the things that have been said in this thread - but I'm not quite clever enough to express it properly. I'd like to hear the exact definition of a "slut".

― don, Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm starting to think there's a brand of slightly misogynist
male who doesn't believe that the words "slut" or "promiscuous"
mean anything, or in other words they think (or wish) that all
females are just as obsessed with sex as they are.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

It is unfair that there are not terms like "slut" for men,
that's an unfortunate by-product of our male-dominated society.
If such a term existed, I would apply it to the Robert Plant-like
creeps of rock.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, most of the girls I know from college that spent their summers shagging RHCP/G'n'R/Jane's members were too rich to be *that* impressed by any of them and just wanted disposable fucktoys who annoyed their parents. Flea gave one of them genital wart cooties, though.

― suzy (suzy), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)

That Flea had genital warts seems sort of appropriate.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Had? There's no cure, bro.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Flea is also the biggest asshole I have ever met in a work capacity in my entire life. It was '95 and the camelstraw was he said the line about ASSUME makes an ASS out of U and ME and I said 'there is no you and me' and walked out. I have never walked out of an interview before or since (and no-one has ever bailed on me).

― suzy (suzy), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

aside from the whole pro-sex=slut issue, there's also the oddity of freaking out over who Bret Michaels might be singing too. That's like being horrified when you realize Marvin Gaye might be singing about a black woman.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

so is that Motley Crue bio any good?

― hstencil, Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Miccio: well, now that's the first valid criticism of my initial post I've read all thread

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 11 April 2004 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

"I'm starting to think there's a brand of slightly misogynist
male who doesn't believe that the words "slut" or "promiscuous"
mean anything, or in other words they think (or wish) that all
females are just as obsessed with sex as they are."

Wow that's a leap.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

"slut" means a whole lot to me

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't explain myself very well, I guess.
But dismissing the term slut seems to me like it may come out
of an adolescent wet dream where ALL women EVERYWHERE are willing
to have sex with me, for free! OH BOY! Wouldn't be sweet to be in a band and rock out and have plenty of free drugs and free sex with those hot chicks with the big tits? WOOHOO!

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

what?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:08 (twenty-two years ago)

The realization that most of those truly awful "private-press" "psych-folk" records from the late 90s were more than likely written by sycophantic Thurston Moore groupies - C or D?

― Odi, Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:09 (twenty-two years ago)

surely someone who wants all women to be promiscous, wouldn't have a problem with the term slut?

― don, Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahaha OHMIGOD what the fuck are you talking about?!?!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Total x-post that was to Squirrel Police.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

i love the phrase "private press".. so much nicer than "indie"

― the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)

<em> Accidentally Revealing Yourself To Have A Really Fucked Up View Of Sex - C or D? <em>

― don, Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:12 (twenty-two years ago)

strange problems with html - c or d?

(might as well get in there first)

― don, Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:13 (twenty-two years ago)

>surely someone who wants all women to be promiscous,
>wouldn't have a problem with the term slut?

No, because the word slut gives negative connotations to
wantonly and irresponsibly promiscous people. If you are a fan
of wanton and irresponsible promiscuity, you want to present a
whitewashed version of the world where such a thing does not
exist. Groupies are just women who like sex! (sarcasm)
What can possibly be wrong with that?

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

For a serious look at feminism and porn, the tome is Angela Carter's The Sadeian Woman & the Ideology of Pornography. It's an astute and awakening read. (It was for me, anyway.)

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm just waiting for Squirrel boy to pop out with the old "woman who wear mini-skirts are just asking for rape" cliche. That'll wrap up this thread nice and sweet.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean thank god the we can just call women who sleep around sluts and whores. That'll convince the little slags to keep their legs closed. Where the fuck are my scarlet "A"s? I know they are around here somewhere.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey man, it works the same way in the animal kinddom. Look at monkeys who wear miniskirts. Just look at them.

(I just thought another crazy turn would make this thread somehow even better)

― David Allen (David Allen), Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Camille Paglia to thread

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)

here you go alex

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drg000/g026/g02639e607k.jpg

― the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 11 April 2004 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

"Every Rose Has Its Thorn" is about Pamela Anderson. Does that kill the thread?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 12 April 2004 00:05 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost to squirrel

repugnant tales involving producers who would get her in an office and lock the door and not pay her til she blew them, her cameraman BF asking her as a favor to fuck one of his friends who was feeling down, etc. She was at the time a really depressed person who was easily pushed around by people. Don't know why she did what she did in those situations, but I'm just glad she got out of that.

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 12 April 2004 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

>I'm just waiting for Squirrel boy to pop out with the old
>"woman who wear mini-skirts are just asking for rape" cliche.

I don't mind random abuse, it can only be expected on this kind
of board. But I must say your anger and hate are strikingly
malevolent.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Monday, 12 April 2004 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh! So now I see that you haven't read _The Scarlet Letter_
either, or you didn't understand it, since it's message was
far deeper than condemning the puritan elders.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Monday, 12 April 2004 00:13 (twenty-two years ago)

oh just ignore them, Squirrel, they're just repressed and angry and too conditioned by the Rainbow Coalition to consider even a glimmer of honest logic about anything

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 12 April 2004 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Where's the 'honest logic' in saying that Christina Aguilera and Shakira, both of whom have incredible voices, only got a pop career out of sleeping with record executives?

― cis (cis), Monday, 12 April 2004 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

The Rainbow Coalition: the lovers, the dreamers and me

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 12 April 2004 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

"oh just ignore them, Squirrel, they're just repressed and angry and too conditioned by the Rainbow Coalition to consider even a glimmer of honest logic about anything"

http://www.searchanddelete.com/donearliertoday.jpg

― don, Monday, 12 April 2004 00:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't forget hateful!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 12 April 2004 00:45 (twenty-two years ago)

hahahaha

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Monday, 12 April 2004 00:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh by the way I probably didn't understand all of The Scarlet Letter (I did read it a long long time ago) but at least I'm not confusing the actual PURPOSE of a SCARLET LETTER with the themes of Hawthorne's novel.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 12 April 2004 00:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Scarlet letters are good, but not as good as chastity belts

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 12 April 2004 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)

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The realization that most of those really pretty rock ballads from the 80s were more than likely written about disgusting teenage groupie whores - C or D?