Rush Limbaugh, Rockist

Could he sound more like a Skrewdriver fan?

but it was probably before there was rap so he didn't have a choice...today he'd totally like be in the Bravehearts or something...

-- VengaDan Perry (djperr...), April 13th, 2004.

What was most startling about that interview, though, was that Clarke was wearing a $40,000 Paul Wall grill.

Big dudes rule the world. Screw scrawny indie kids.

John Kerry's quote: ''I'm fascinated by rap and by hip-hop. I think there's a lot of poetry in it. There's a lot of anger, a lot of social energy in it. And I think you'd better listen to it pretty carefully, 'cause it's important . . . I'm still listening because I know that it's a reflection of the street and it's a reflection of life.''

I think you're giving his take on it more credit that it deserves. Look, I'm voting for the man, and frankly, I don't GIVE A ROYAL ROLLING RAT FUCK what music he likes or listens to. It has no bearing on the job he's applying for. He could be a massive Haysi Fantayzee fanatic for all I care.

And what exactly is "social energy" anyway?

actually, i can imagine kerry listening to common and dead prez -- maybe getting a hip intern to recommend a few good cd's and then, yeah, sitting there, scratching his head and investigating, at least for a few minutes.

but ... it doesn't really matter either way. what matters here isn't how he spends his downtime, but rather what message he's conveying with his answers. asked by a young journalist from a young-skewing network about music, there's two basic ways a politician from another generation can go: he can make like joe lieberman and say "you kids had better be careful about that stuff; it may not be good for you," or he can make like kerry and say "i think it's interesting."

the kerry way is a statement of encouragement. and that's good.

Of course he's pandering. He's running for president.

Why does that matter, though? What's important is that he SAID it. I could give a shit whether or not John Kerry spends his freetime (not that he has freetime!) listening to Cash Money Platinum Hits. FCC is OTM in saying contrasting Kerry's comments w/ the Liberman viewpoint. And even though (especially in this election's) John Kerry's views on hip-hop aren't particularly important, it's not exactly something he can ignore.

I'll be voting for Kerry as well.

And it doesn't bother you that he probably doesn't mean it? I mean, it's SO not important (i.e. as said many times, who cares what he listens to or likes?) I mean, I'd accuse him of pandering if he came out and said:"AFI and Blink 182 really do have their fingers on the pulse of America's youth, and we should all pay attention!" I mean, I don't care if he likes hip hop or not. I just don't believe he really truly feels any fascination for it. With Rush, it's more of a racial thing (Rush completely oblivious to the fact that Hip Hop is the dominant cultural force that unites both black AND white youth). But with Kerry, he's trying to sway support and win votes, thus he's pandering. And that's unfortunate.

Oh, but we do!

John Kerry

Favorite album: "Abbey Road," by the Beatles

Favorite concerts: Grateful Dead, Rolling Stones

Favorite artists: Bruce Springsteen, Rolling Stones, Grateful Dead

Favorite dance tune: "Twist and Shout," by the Beatles

Pretty standard boomer stuff.

Favorite album: "Yellow Submarine," by the Beatles

Favorite concert: Beethoven's Ninth, Bamberg, Germany

Favorite artist: The Beatles

Favorite dance tune: "Don't Stop Believin'," by Journey

awesome!!!!!!!!!

Because, as previously stated, we have no way of knowing Kerry's "true" feelings and hip-hop. It's a poltical campagin, I don't know Kerry's level of belief on anything he says, what's important is that he's expressing positive feelings about hip, regardless of his listening habits or the reasons for his comments.

I assume you mean "Dirt off your shoulder," dad.

But if you've heard this at a party you'd realize how truly wonderful it is. D off Y/S is wonderful.

Like a wrestla yessa.

B-b-but "Roll the Bones"!

this whole thread's a gigantic mug's game, writ large.

and how do you know that, sir?

You need to calm down. You recognize it when you need to get votes. Thus, pander.

Fuck. Why is the FCC all over Howard Stern for naughty words when Rush can emit such racist hateful filth scott-free?

Because if you listen to his show, you often hear funk and soul, and
he approves the bumper music. Sometimes callers and him will
chew the fat music.

ABOUT music, I meant.

No, if Kerry were to put on Roc-A-Wear and scream "REEEEEEEMIIIIIX!!!" into the mic at press conferences, that would be the equivalent to the scenario you just described.* Dude, he just said it's "important". Do you really think that a middle aged white man can't say something as obvious as that Hip-Hop is important without this being pandering? This reeks of aegism.

You need to calm down. You recognize it when you need to get votes. Thus, pander.

I'm not saying that this isn't a possibility, but why not give the guy the benefit of the doubt? Innocent until proven guilty and all that? I mean, what would he have to do to make you believe he's legit about it?

I don't really care if *Kerry* is legit about it or not.
Aw shit. Now I have a mental image of Kerry in MC Hammer Balloon pants dancing and doing a cover of "Too Legit to Quit!"
(...and we all know he's more of a "Pumps and the Bump" kinda guy.)

Limbaugh delivered his remarks on the same day that he touted his receipt of the Winston Churchill Statesmanship Award from the conservative Claremont Institute. Previous award recipients include former President Ronald Reagan, former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas and National Review founder William F. Buckley Jr. San Diego Chargers owner Alex G. Spanos, who presented Limbaugh with the award, noted that it is given to "those who look up to the sky for the noble principles of justice, right and liberty."

From the November 22 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: There is something about this hip-hop culture business. I'm not going to mention the name because there's thousands of them, but I've been watching interviews with ex-NBA players and current NBA players. You know what the common theme that I'm hearing is? "Well, I'm not going to be dissed. I'm simply not going to be disrespected. Somebody disrespects me, they're going to pay for it." Meaning, "A fan disrespects me, that fan's going to pay for it," not just another player.

And that comes right out of the hip-hop culture, and it's not just that. You look at NBA players and the uniforms, you don't have to go back very far. The uniforms have changed totally. They're now in gang colors. They are in gang styles.

[...]

But there's a reason this is happening. I'm not saying it's nothing to be concerned about. There's a reason. But I don't think anybody ought to be surprised, folks. I really don't think anybody ought to be surprised. This is the hip-hop culture on parade. This is gang behavior on parade minus the guns. That's the culture that the NBA has become. So if anybody will be honest with you about it in the NBA, and a very few will have the courage to, because saying what I just said is going to be tagged as racist, but I, my friends, am fearless when it comes to this because the truth will out, and that's what's happening here, and part and parcel of this gang culture, this hip-hop culture, is: "I'm not going to tolerate being dissed. I'm not going to be disrespected," and "disrespected" is now so broad that it includes somebody looking at you the wrong way.

[...]

CALLER: This is not a new thing with the Piston fans.

LIMBAUGH: I know. That's why I say call it "New Fallujah, Michigan."

if only donovan mcnabb had bitch-slapped his fat pill-popping ass.

A, who many feel is the leader of B culture, criticizes C culture (which is based on on B culture to begin with) and thus is really bigoted against the very culture he is a leader of (which is B).