Funk, hold the jazz

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I've been thinking about funk lately. I love some of it,
don't love some of it. Then it hit me: I like my funk without
jazziness! I need recommendations bigtime.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 05:34 (twenty-two years ago)

funk without jazziness? not sure what this meands

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 08:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Can you give some examples of what you consider jazzy funk, and/or what you consider non-jazzy funk.

― Jedmond (Jedmond), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:08 (twenty-two years ago)

does not compute

― .., Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

http://rhcprock.free.fr/images/rhcp_band2.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd suggest there's at least a modicum of jazz in much if Parliament and JB's work, so they're out

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Funk without jazz = electro?

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

then does compute

― .., Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread is making me think of lonnie smith's "move your hand," because it's supposed to be jazz but it's funk. apropos of nothing.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

SLY AND THE FAM!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Does this mean funk without solos?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm guessing funk without solos or swing.

― Jedmond (Jedmond), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:40 (twenty-two years ago)

betty davis. betty damn davis.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I think The Meters also manage to unjazzify the funk while maintaining a healthy dose of bounce for that ass.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf000/f011/f01195r7da7.jpg
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf500/f589/f58985feyik.jpg

― christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, the beauty of the Meters is that they could just record those wonderful 2-3 min slices of groove perfection. The problem with playing those songs or listening to the Meters live (either now or back in the day) is that tune is amazing for 2-3 min and then it's like, "Now what? Um, I'll guess we'll have some solos and take it out a bit." Then it gets all jammy and loud and messy (which I used to love, but now isn't so interesting).

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Trouble funk?

― David Allen (David Allen), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

lots of PRINCE and Hip Hop?

― TomB (TomB), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

the meters is a good suggestion.

there was a comp. making the rounds called chains and black exhaust that was really good. sort of like biker-rock-funk.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess all funk has some jazz, let's say funk, with only
a small slice of jazz.

TomB was spot on in mentioning hip-hop. This thread was
prompted when I was listening to Blackalicious, "The
Fabulous Ones," bobbing my head happily, and I wondered
what the sample was from, and where I could find more
music like this.

Maybe it's a chordal thing; funk just uses simple chords
major, minor, and seventh, whereas jazzfunk gets a lot more
sophisticated.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Just picked up a 2lp of unreleased funk by a group called L.A. Carnival from around 1970 that may scratch the itch. Check out a great magazine called Wax Poetics for more insight into this kind of stuff. Anyone ever heard Bad Medicine?

― Sean Witzman (trip maker), Wednesday, 14 April 2004 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

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