Garage MCs are better than US MCs

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because they can ride bashment riddims and not sound rubbish.

Give me one good example of a US mc riding a bashment riddim.

― scg, Thursday, 15 April 2004 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

twista on jook gal part 2.

― ww, Thursday, 15 April 2004 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

i cant believe you people are allowed to listen to music.

― jp, Thursday, 15 April 2004 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

UK hiphop has always been, and looks like it always will be, a complete joke. All hype, no impact.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Correct.

― David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

"Hype"- "they let the Wee Papa Girl Rappers do the theme tune to Jim'll Fix It".

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

haha every post on this thread has somehow been wrong*!

(*except dom's, which i can never parse anyway.)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:20 (twenty-two years ago)

haha!

Anyway..fools

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Jamaican MCs piss over both of em. From a great height. Whilst laughing.

― don, Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha WW, i posted this after hearing Twista and Ying Yang Twinz on the Jook Gal remixes!!

― scg, Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"because they can ride bashment riddims and not sound rubbish."

That's because US MC's don't give a FUCK about
"bashment riddims," you provincial little puspool.

(OH, and Shakey Mo, you need to hear Roots Manuva).

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha i was with you all the way till you mentioned Roots Manuva!!

― scg, Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

haha yeah us mc's dont give a shit about "bashment riddims" which is why we spent all of 2003 listening to them and ripping them off

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha back, you fackin' twit.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Who's "we," strongo?

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

america

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean, if we're gonna get all jingoistic

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

(sarcasm)

OH YES, we've finally found our spokesman, I'm about to shit myself
with excitement

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I have some Roots Manuva 12" that their "street team" dropped on me. I had an "eh" reaction and remember nothing about it.

Seriously, I can't think of a single British hip-hop act that's had an impact on hip-hop as a genre at large (ie, in the US *and* the UK), they're all forgettable flash-in-the-pan acts. I don't hear a lot of Tricky defenders on ILM these days, for instance. Or big Dana Dane proponents. (Slick Rick yes, but I think he counts as American, problems with the INS notwithstanding).

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 15 April 2004 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

squirrel are you auditioning for a play?

shakey how many uk mc's can you name, off the top of your head?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)

strongo I think "ripping them off" ought better be phrased "putting their boutique tastes to good use"

discuss: in the U.S., only corny indie fuxx give two shits about UK MCs

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

WHAT IS "BASHMENT" and how is it incorporated into US hip hop? would something like "FUCK EM" qualify? it certainly bashes my head in

― hisd, Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

haha wait "people interested in music" = "cornie indie fucks" now?

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

http://thecrusade.net/galleries/sxsw/images/PIC00035.jpg

― scg, Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

http://thecrusade.net/galleries/sxsw/images/PIC00062.jpg

― scg, Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

frankly i could give a shit about british hip-hop...the only reason i care about grime is because i have been listening to garage now for going on five years.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

(i mean, not the ONLY reason, obv, but that's the thread i am following)

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)

It's funny how cory indie fuxx has become the staple insult from corny indie fuxx toward people who clearly aren't corny indie fuxx.

Noone's answered my question still!

― scg, Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

mike jones - gimme the light freestyle

― ww, Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually... Wait... Oh my... It's... LIL WAYNE - LIKE GLUE FREESTYLE!!!

― scg, Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I apologise, corny down south fuxx!!

― scg, Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

first, you need to prove that garage mcs sound good over US beats.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

"fix up, look sharp" doesn't prove anything.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

This is silly. A good MC can (most likely) sound good over any beat.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

All you need is a repetitive pulse.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

there's a not totally embarassing busta/ele tune on perilous riddim, but fuck busta anyway!

― prima fassy (mwah), Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Where does Richard Blackwood's seminal "1,2,3,4 Get With The Wicked" figure in all this?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 15 April 2004 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)

haha wait "people interested in music" = "cornie indie fucks" now?

I thought we were all already in agreement about that

― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 15 April 2004 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

THE UK IS GAY AS ALL FUCK

WOLF EYES + OUTKAST 4EVER

― Lil' Fancy Kpants (The K is Silent) (ex machina), Thursday, 15 April 2004 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Since when is the ability to ride bashment riddims and not sound rubbish the litmus test? I could ride that shit with all four tyres shot out.

― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 15 April 2004 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

this is more than silly, it’s jingoistic bollocks. hip hop, in all its forms now transcends national cultures, it is bigger than that, and us, and very silly 'who's better, who's best' debates like this. a burner is a burner and a great mc is a great mc.

― myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

OMG WHOSE BETTER TY OR TI?!!!111

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

http://guild.telefragged.com/skins/snapshots/aqmarine/usmc.jpg

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 16 April 2004 01:21 (twenty-two years ago)

What the fuck is a "bashment riddim"?

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 16 April 2004 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Jamaicans can ride US hip hop, bashment and grime riddims = Jamaica wins!

(Mr Snrub, I think "bashment" basically means dancehall riddims in this context, at least going on the examples listed so far)

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 16 April 2004 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Hip-hop has been about "who's better, who's best" since day one.

― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

No way, hip hop has been about Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy since day one!

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 16 April 2004 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

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