How secure are you in your taste?

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Are you pretty confident that you like good stuff? Do you suspect that maybe someday you'll wake up, look at your albums shelf and be like "What complete shit!"

Or do you think the idea of a qualitative taste (even in relation to one's own previous preferences) is just wrong?

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Or do you think the idea of a qualitative taste (even in relation to one's own previous preferences) is just wrong?

DING DING DING.

(Your taste is your taste and it may change and it may not.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think the first part contradicts the second actually.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)

This is actually true too, but since it was phrased as a choice...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I concur with Ned with the caveat that my taste is actually the universal standard of awesomeness.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Lying bastard, worship ME.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Worst gods EVER!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm totally smiting you for that.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

With guns.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't get blood on the wine can hat, kay? That's all I ask.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Well just wait until you're my age and look up and down the length and breadth of your record collection with 25 years worth of accumulated wisdom and hindsight and say to yourself, "Why the fuck did I ever buy and presumably enjoy (for a spell) the likes of XTC, X-Mal Deutschland and the Tapes?"

Hey! Who remembers the Tapes? I certainly don't and I still have the record. I can't be bothered to play it but I'll be happy to sell it to you.

― kjoerup, Friday, 16 April 2004 00:55 (twenty-two years ago)

i'll buy your xmal deutschland LPs

― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 16 April 2004 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)

You'll buy anything.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 16 April 2004 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I had a serious post ready to go, but no, all you interlopers had to make this a Marx Brothers thread. Hahaha!

― jim wentworth (wench), Friday, 16 April 2004 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm so secure, I'll raise my hand.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 April 2004 01:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess eventually I'll become a classical purist, and then I'll shun all recorded music and I'll have to hire a string quartet to lull me to sleep and so forth.

― Sasha (sgh), Friday, 16 April 2004 01:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, post a serious response! My initial one was simultaneously serious and flippant (ie, logically I don't think you can arbitrate taste but emotionally my taste is fucking fantastic and anyone who disagrees with me is a FULE).

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 April 2004 01:39 (twenty-two years ago)

the funniest posts ever are 'i don't like hjis taste but i respect it' as if they work very hard on liking what you think is crap.

― keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 16 April 2004 02:11 (twenty-two years ago)

My drum teacher was telling me that he used to play along to tapes for like 10 hours a day.

I said, 'that's amazing.'

He said, 'Yeah, I used to play along to Bon Jovi and Bryan Adams.'

I said, 'Wow, that's kinda embarrassing.'

He said, 'Why? You don't like those guys.'

I said, 'No, that's cool.'

It was very awkward.

― Debito (Debito), Friday, 16 April 2004 02:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I am perfectly satisfied with yr slapstisck answers.

I wouldn't think that I believed in objective taste or whatever, but then I think about what I listened to as recently as like 3 years ago. It gives me chills.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 16 April 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

My ego says my taste fucking rules.

History? Not so much.

― minolta (minolta), Friday, 16 April 2004 02:34 (twenty-two years ago)

ilx is really the only place where my awful taste is appreciated!

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 16 April 2004 02:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I currently hate 99% of all the records I own. Actually *hate* is too strong. 'Can't find anything good about' would be better. I am going to have a big clearout before I change my mind.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 16 April 2004 06:35 (twenty-two years ago)

My tastes have changed quite publically so I don't feel that secure in them now.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 16 April 2004 07:14 (twenty-two years ago)

i could care less whether what i listen to is 'good' or not, or whether i'll still like it in five years, days, minutes.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 16 April 2004 07:17 (twenty-two years ago)

to be honest though i can't really think of that many things i've liked and stopped liking (even stuff i hear and think 'wow - that doesn't sound nearly as good to me now as it sounded back when i listened to it alot - eg. the soft bulletin - i just chalk up as curious or fun in a 'why are all these people referencing the seattle seahawks in my seventh grade yearbook? was i THAT big a fan of the seahawks in seventh grade???', not in a sense of 'i'm reformed' or 'oh what a fool i was! verily i have seen the light!'. i'm much much much more likely to like or at least temper my dislike of something of i've hated than to flipflop on liking something.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 16 April 2004 07:24 (twenty-two years ago)

oh wait - BIG exception to the above: lenny kravitz.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 16 April 2004 07:26 (twenty-two years ago)

i could care less whether what i listen to is 'good' or not, or whether i'll still like it in five years, days, minutes.

Well, yeah, I guess that's what I meant more than anything.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 16 April 2004 07:30 (twenty-two years ago)

eg my 6th grade Spin Doctors love!

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 16 April 2004 07:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm secure enough in myself now to know that my taste changes, so I shouldn't try to base my entire identity on my musical taste.

― Super-Kate (kate), Friday, 16 April 2004 07:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I couldn't give a toss about my taste. Just like what I like. Sometimes it's "good taste", sometimes it invites ridicule. Who cares?

― Baravelli. (Jake Proudlock), Friday, 16 April 2004 08:42 (twenty-two years ago)

On another thread, I said I didn't mind Lennie Kravitz. I get the impression that round here that's not on. But I bet I could hide some Lennie Kravitz stuff in otherwise tasteful compilations, tell you it was by someone else and, given that you don't know all his albums off by heart, you'd go along with it.

― Baravelli. (Jake Proudlock), Friday, 16 April 2004 08:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Just like my dad says he hates crab, but when we changed the label on the crab paste jar he ate it like a good'un.

― Baravelli. (Jake Proudlock), Friday, 16 April 2004 08:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I think my tastes have got wider as I've got older rather than having actually changed.

I'm still listening to and discovering more of the same types of music I was listening to when I was 14 and still being turned off by many of the same things; so I think the chances of me waking up one morning, looking at my collection, and wondering wtf I've been doing listening to any significant part of it, are pretty slim now.

However I'm also listening to and discovering music that I didn't "get" / wouldn't have "got" if I'd heard them I was 14.

I don't think I was ever scared of swimming against the tide but nevertheless I'm also prepared to admit to liking certain things these days that I wouldn't have been prepared to admit that I liked - frequently not even to myself - when I was 14, for fear of breaking some unwritten code and inflicting irrepairable damage to my fragile street-cred.

So, I guess I am pretty secure in my tastes in that I'm really not bothered about what other people think of my tastes or what labels they may try to hang on me as a consequence of those tastes.... well, not to the same extent / in the same way that I was when I was 14 anyway!

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 16 April 2004 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I downloaded the 2003 version of the Tubular Bells CD (heck, if he can't write a new one, I'm not paying for it! (not interested enough to pay full price anyway). Back in the day (1973), it was quite liberating in an "I could do this if I had the equipment" kinda way. The new side 1 seemed a bit less good than the original, but side 2 was an improvement. I did buy "Hergest Ridge" in a charity shop recently and taped it to minidisc, but not been fussed enough to play/listen to it yet.

Anyhow, my point being, during the punk years it was very looked down on. But then, I don't know who would have done this. The music bods at school? No, I knew all about their Yes fixations. Mates? They had no preconceptions about music at all. One, a Stranglers fan, had an unsecret love of cheap 'truckers' country songs. "Wo give me forty acres and I'll turn this rig around"....

So I tend not to slag stuff I don't know. Exceptions: Simple Minds, Dire Straits and Daniel o'Donnel.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 16 April 2004 09:45 (twenty-two years ago)

(That should read "I knew all about their past Yes fixations" up there)

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 16 April 2004 09:47 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, my tastes have definitely expanded as I've grown older, even to the point of now enjoying the damn Grateful Dead...maybe I'm getting senile in my 40s. I'm also less vehment in my disapproval/dislike of bad music, though that's part of a larger, self-conscious process (aka trying not to be a bombastic asshole).
I've always been secure in my tastes -- interested in what others think but rarely influenced by it.

― lovebug starski, Friday, 16 April 2004 10:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I disliked Grateful Dead for years until I actually sat down and listened to them.

How are you getting on with trying not to be a bombastic asshole?

I tried it but couldn't seem to get into it.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 16 April 2004 10:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm pretty secure in my random and lack of musical taste.

― jel -- (jel), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:06 (twenty-two years ago)

"How are you getting on with trying not to be a bombastic asshole?"
OK I guess until I started posting here...

― lovebug starski, Friday, 16 April 2004 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha! Yes, well I imagine Alex In NYC was a nice, quiet, laid-back, easy-going, affable, amenable, laissez-faire, live-and-let-live, each-to-their-own kind of a guy until he arrived here amongst all these hordes of fatuous fire dishonoring cheese monkeys!

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't like the feeling of security but I'm liking everything (at least 99%) I have tried in the last year or so.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, those are high approval ratings

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:55 (twenty-two years ago)

How does the "tried" % compare with the "heard" % Julio?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:57 (twenty-two years ago)

The 1% was from this one Oxford quintet.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm pretty sure I like the music I like. I'm also pretty sure I like apple pie. And if one day I stop liking either, I'll drop them.

― dleone (dleone), Friday, 16 April 2004 11:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Stuff I like I like, stuff I've tried is a different matter

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 April 2004 12:00 (twenty-two years ago)

pretty secure. always looking for new things. though ilx is not a good place for recommendations.

― doomie x, Friday, 16 April 2004 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)

stuff I liked I've liked (but can quibble with it as I've heard lots of it), then stuff I don't normally listen to I've tried and liked too.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 16 April 2004 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

There'll probably be a day when I don't like what I like now as much as I used to, but I won't hate it. Maybe I'll keep one album from each of my favorite bands and sell the rest? I do try to find new things to like, but I don't really get a chance to.

Oh, but that reminds me, I need to find out when that Seachange album comes out.

― Aja (aja), Friday, 16 April 2004 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Very, though my girlfriend complains of "funky spunk."

― Mr Big, Friday, 16 April 2004 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm almost sure I like crap, so I'm always pleasantly surprised when my taste merges w/anyone else's

― Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Friday, 16 April 2004 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess I should have titled this "how do you feel about yr past musical preferences" so that people wouldn't get all offended that I would even imply that they cared about what other people think of their taste.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Friday, 16 April 2004 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

The only one of my past musical preferences that I used to listen to loads and now listen to very little is indie. I was very hostile to it for a couple of years while I was 'getting over it' and now view parts of it with love, parts of it with fondness, parts with bafflement and most with apathy. The never-ending parade of new guitar groups annoys me a little bit but with a handful of exceptions I'm not made to listen to them so I honestly don't care much.

Actually I used to listen to experimental music, especially drones and noisy stuff, a lot more than I do now too. That's mostly a function of changes in where and how and with who I listen, and I do miss it.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 16 April 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Breakfast Club - "Right On Track"

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 16 April 2004 17:09 (twenty-two years ago)

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