I miss the earth so much; I miss my wife

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57 7th (calstars), Sunday, 18 April 2004 23:08 (twenty-two years ago)

major tom?

the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 18 April 2004 23:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I had a professor in college who went on and on about how "Rocket Man" was a euphemism for homosexuality. That line, in particular, he saw as one single idea, as opposed to viewing it as it's commonly understood, as a list. As in, not: "I Miss the Earth so much. I (also) miss my wife." But: "I miss the earth so much, I ACTUALLY miss pussy. PUSSY!! Can You Beleive it?? An old homo like me missing PUSSY?"

and so on

he was rather obsessed

this is to say nothing of the "i'm not the man they think I am at all" line

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 18 April 2004 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)

What exactly are the words to that chorus?
Rocket Man / Burnin' up the fuels up here alone
?

57 7th (calstars), Sunday, 18 April 2004 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)

It's Elton John

Dante-Cubed (Sean3), Sunday, 18 April 2004 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

And I think it's gonna be a long long time
Till touch down brings me round again to find
I'm not the man they think I am at home
Oh no no no I'm a rocket man
Rocket man burning out his fuse up here alone

Dante-Cubed (Sean3), Sunday, 18 April 2004 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah but didn't Bernie write those lyrics?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Sunday, 18 April 2004 23:28 (twenty-two years ago)

It's lonely out in space....apparently. And, y'know, no one can hear you scream.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 18 April 2004 23:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I always thought the lines : Mars aint the kind of place to raise your kids
In fact its cold as hell

Were really really awful.

David Nolan (David N.), Sunday, 18 April 2004 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Bernie Taupin was a lyrical criminal. The only reason it worked is that the meter was right, and no one knew what Elton was singing half the time anyway.

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 19 April 2004 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I don't know. I think they're a pretty good songwriting team overall.

roger adultery (roger adultery), Monday, 19 April 2004 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)

until you actually know what all the lyrics are....don't get me wrong, I like a lot of these songs, but there is at least one lyric in every one that makes me *cringe*.

Example: In an otherwise fine song, Goodbye Yellow Brick Road, full of pathos, feeling, suddenly the whole is like a toilet flushing in a symphony call when I hear "hunting the horny-backed toad".

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 19 April 2004 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

call=hall

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 19 April 2004 00:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Other classics: Someone Saved My Life Tonight. Great song, until "paying your HP demands forever" - it's a lyrical fart, for God's sake, way too harsh for the rest of the line--like inserting German into Portguese lullaby.

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 19 April 2004 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it about role-playing games?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 19 April 2004 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

You mean the bizarre animal porn people?

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 19 April 2004 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry couldn't resist...
http://www.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/frolixo~utter9.jpg

57 7th (calstars), Monday, 19 April 2004 02:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Who'd have thought this thread would end up here...

57 7th (calstars), Monday, 19 April 2004 02:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey this is fun, how about some other terrible Taupin lyrics:

I can't take any more bad water
I've been poisoned from my head down to my shoes

"Border Song"

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 19 April 2004 02:46 (twenty-two years ago)

oh God , yes, exactly,
there is one in every song.

And also, song titles from hell:

I Feel Like A Bullet (In The Gun Of Robert Ford)

whaaah?

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 19 April 2004 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

anyway, the thing is, what I really mean...

weather1ngda1eson (Brian), Monday, 19 April 2004 03:52 (twenty-two years ago)

haha! "Your Song" right?

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 19 April 2004 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

bernie taupin had his huge share of clunkers for sure, but what's wrong with "i feel like a bullet in the gun of robert ford"? that's a good title!

as for this:

"paying your HP demands forever"

what does that mean? is that a british thing? or was bernie talking about having to constantly refill the toner on his lover's hewlett-packard printer?

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 19 April 2004 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)

"Hire Purchase" (payment plan)

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 19 April 2004 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)

ahh. thanks.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 19 April 2004 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Yup, Yr Song.
And "Solar Prestige A Gammon" to thread!

weather1ngda1eson (Brian), Monday, 19 April 2004 05:22 (twenty-two years ago)

"I like livin' easy without family ties
'Til the whippoorwill of freedom zapped me right between the eyes"

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 19 April 2004 05:28 (twenty-two years ago)

otm. whipporwhill? wtf?!!!!

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 19 April 2004 05:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Never understood this line, and then when I figured it out I wished I hadn't: "She's black as coal, but she burns Like fire / and she wrap herself around you like a well-worn tire."

briania, Monday, 19 April 2004 15:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I always questioned the economics of Levon...like he sells cartoon balloon and his family business thrives??? Can you really make bank selling balloons? (if so I'm considering a career change)....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 April 2004 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

"levon" is a classic case of a lyric that sounds like it's saying a lot but it isn't. trying to make the sense of its inner economics couldn't possibly be of any use!

fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 19 April 2004 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

That tire line is v. entertaining.

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 19 April 2004 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I forgive the bad lines in "Your Song," because it's actually about a bad songwriter trying to write a romantic song.

I always figured Levon sold cartoon balloons as an eccentric millionare-type hobby. Keeps him in touch with the common people, see.

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Monday, 19 April 2004 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread is making my day brighter by the post. thank you all.

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Monday, 19 April 2004 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

It's like you're all making a list of everything I love about 70s Bernie Taupin lyrics, but saying that somehow these are reasons not to love it. You're all a bunch of weirdos!

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 19 April 2004 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, I adore songs with unexpected imagery, odd couplets, and unlikely subject matter. It's a bit of flavor, you know? I'm just wondering what a good lyric is to some of you.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 19 April 2004 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

It's like you're all making a list of everything I love about 70s Bernie Taupin lyrics, but saying that somehow these are reasons not to love it. You're all a bunch of weirdos!

I didn't say I didn't like it! Obv. the fact that Levon made me think about the economics of balloon sales says something for the quality of the lyrics.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 April 2004 22:31 (twenty-two years ago)

"My old man's drunker than a barrellful of monkeys"

It would never occur to me that these words should be sung in order.

is this an expression that i just missed, or is it a UK thing, or just the worst metaphor ever?

(Saturday Night's Alright (For Fighting)

meta: i love the songs too, but dagnabbit some of this is just bizarre. the levon bit made me laugh very hard.

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 19 April 2004 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I always thought the cartoon baloon thing had something to do with the family being in the publishing business. They publish newspapers, the newpapers have comics have thought and speech baloons, people pay for the newspaper, read the comics = money for Levon's family?

But I mean, I never even really thought about it before.

And isn't barrel of monkeys an expression for a fun and wild time? I'm not UK-ish, though, so I could be wrong.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Monday, 19 April 2004 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, okay, I getcha. I'm so used to people talking about shit about Elton that I was automatically reading this thread with some defensiveness.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 19 April 2004 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

The lyric that I always fixate on in "Levon" is "he calls his child 'Jesus' because he likes the name" - I'm not quite sure if he named his kid Jesus, or if he's actually named Dave or something, but Levon calls him Jesus anyway.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 19 April 2004 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)

The cartoon balloon/comics thing would make sense if they didn't make it clear that he's blowing up the balloons two lines later in the verse. And then, in the next verse, he sends "Jesus" off to Venus on a balloon. (Metaphorically, I assume.)

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 19 April 2004 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"If I was sculptor, but then again - no" always wigs me out for sentence structure too....but it's perfect in the song...

And then, in the next verse, he sends "Jesus" off to Venus on a balloon

I always wondered if Jesus was maybe kinda like Forrrest Gump or Rainman or something and he just likes to sit around making balloons all day...maybe this would explain the balloon business because if he's rich then he could afford to sell balloons on the side just to give his son something to do....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 19 April 2004 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

(x-post) Yeah, you're right Matthew. I went and looked up the lyrics AFTER I posted that (wrong order!) and I realized that I was obviously dead wrong. Obviously, I weren't listenin that closely, and thinkin too much about comics.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Monday, 19 April 2004 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Bernie Tarpaulin rewrote the Monkees' theme song especially for Mickey Dolenz:

I think it went:

"Hey hey I'm a Monkee
And I was the funny one
I also sang half the songs,
As well playing the drums"

Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 05:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I always thought the lines : Mars aint the kind of place to raise your kids
In fact its cold as hell
Were really really awful.

But while they are indeed very bad, the line that follows is mystifying:
"And there's no one there to raise them if you did"

?? Is the idea that his wife isn't there? But then how did his kids get there? Or is he saying you can't get a good nanny on Mars? a head-scratcher... Love that song though

no opinion, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 05:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks, Orbit. I love that song, but that line's one hell of a head scratcher.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 06:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah, you totally can't get decent help on Mars.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 06:09 (twenty-two years ago)

*I forgive the bad lines in "Your Song," because it's actually about a bad songwriter trying to write a romantic song.*

I pretty much agree with Kenny here. The line "Anyway, the thing is, what I really mean" is followed by one of the tritest lines in songcraft, "Yours are the sweetest eyes I've ever seen". Both lines work perfectly fine in the song.

Here's a little blurb about the lyrics to "Solar Prestige A Gammon", a song which I had not thought about for a while before clicking this thread. But I knew the chorus by heart! Phonetically speaking.

http://members.langoo.com/steve4nlanguage/steve4nlanguage3.html

weather1ngda1eson (Brian), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 06:12 (twenty-two years ago)

otm on the following lines "and there's no one there to raise them if you did... (xpost)

and I am still fixated on Saturday Night's Alright (For fighting)

My sister looks cute
in her braces and boots
a handful of grease in her hair

At what point in human history is being greasy associated positively with being a girl?
and a whole HANDFUL? Are you picturing this? She's a girl, not a scone, she doesn't need shortening!

Orbit (Orbit), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 06:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not sure what's so confusing about the Rocket Man lyrics - it is in fact quite cold on Mars, and there are no humans there. I think those lines are just kinda deadpan.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm totally mystified by the "handful of grease" thing, though, but it's probably just some kind of weird joke. I think Bernie just has a weird sense of humor.

That said, would anyone like to explain two head-scratchers from "Bennie And The Jets" to me?

Hey kids, shake it loose together
The spotlight's hitting something
That's been known to change the weather
We'll kill the fatted calf tonight
So stick around
You're gonna hear electric music
Solid walls of sound

Say, Candy and Ronnie, have you seen them yet
But they're so spaced out, Bennie and the Jets
Oh but they're weird and they're wonderful
Oh Bennie she's really keen
She's got electric boots a mohair suit
You know I read it in a magazine
Bennie and the Jets

Hey kids, plug into the faithless
Maybe they're blinded
But Bennie makes them ageless
We shall survive, let us take ourselves along
Where we fight our parents out in the streets
To find who's right and who's wrong

Those are some pretty excellent lyrics for the most part - I especially love the final lines and the "electric music, solid walls of sound" bit. I still mishear the opening line all of time as "hey kids, Satans meets the devil."

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 11:05 (twenty-two years ago)

The spotlight's hitting something
That's been known to change the weather

hmm, that one always seemed straightforward to me. she rocks so hard she can cause earthquakes.

Hey kids, plug into the faithless

um, something about worshiping false gods, idols, etc? not only can she cause earthquakes, she might be the devil too. but she sure can rock.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 12:25 (twenty-two years ago)

here's the verse that's always mystified me:

i can't find, oh the right romantic line
but see me once and see the way I feel
don't discard me just because you think i mean you harm
but these cuts I have, they need love to help them heal

i'm not a big fan of the belittling words "just because" in line 3, which just seem to be the wrong words for the occasion -- as if to suggest that the harm he may cause is of no consequence and his lover would be selfish to take it into conideration.

and i'm uttered baffled by the "but" that begins line 4.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)

That's a pretty straightfoward explanation, thanks. You truly are my fact checkin' cuz.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

at your service, sir.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anyone know what kind of synthesizer is being played at the end of "Bennie"? It's one of the best synth sounds that I've ever heard.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"don't discard me just because you think i mean you harm"

Hmm. I always (mis-?)heard this lyric as "don't discard me just because you think I'm in your heart" -- which I interpreted as Elton reaching out to someone who's afraid of making an emotional connection/commitment.

oops.

Joseph McCombs, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)


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