Stealer's Wheel VS. Mouse & The Traps

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Of the two bands who 'did Dylan better than Dylan,' who's better?

I think both are pretty great but I'm judging Stealer's Wheel on just the one song.

Subquestion: Has anyone actually HEARD their LP?

(The great "Juanitia Ave" by the criminally overlooked Bingo Trappers comes pretty close to what I imagine Stealer's Wheel demos to sound like)

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 00:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Mouse

― C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I always just thought the clowns and jokers line in "Stuck in the Middle" sounded like Dylan, so I'll go with Mouse as being more paradigmatically Dylan.

There was an interesting bootleg CD called The Dylan Kynd a few years ago that consisted of all Dylan rip-offs. My favorite is "The People Planners" by Dick Campbell (from the Dick Campbell Sings Where It's At LP).

― Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Google turns up nothing on that. Who put that out? I NEED THAT!

Is Simon Finn on it?

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Has anybody heard the Mouse and the Traps song "I satisfy"? It is found on a comp called "Texas Punk From The Sixties" on the french Eva label (my Dad got it from a garage sale when I was little and the proceeded to make fun of it because "they didn't have punk in the sixties", so I took it from him. It has hilarious foreign english liner notes). Anyway, that song is not really Dylanesque at all but is solid 60s garage, is what I am trying to say. Said record also contains an Amazing song by the Outsiders, that I don't remember the name of exactly, but I remember it had a several-digit number in the title.

― Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I have no idea who put it out; a friend burned me a copy. I could burn you a copy if you like. No Simon Finn, but it's got that Race Marbles song that was on Pebbles 3, two Mouse songs, two Dick Campbell, two Sonny Bono, P.F. Sloan, Human Beinz, some band called Changin' Times, some Mike Nesmith thing, David Blue, Daily Flash, Trashmen, George Bean and the Runners, Chris Sanford, Cryin' Shames (Cryan' Shames?), I Ragazzi del Sole, the Turtles, and the Paul Stewart Movement.

― Tim Ellison, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 02:37 (twenty-two years ago)

"I Satisfy" is cool, as is "Maid of Sugar, Maid of Spice."

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, "I call my baby Peggy"?! Come the F on!

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 07:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Mouse and the Traps, no question. "I Satisfy" kills.

― Sean Witzman (trip maker), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)

five years pass...

There was an interesting bootleg CD called The Dylan Kynd a few years ago that consisted of all Dylan rip-offs. My favorite is "The People Planners" by Dick Campbell (from the Dick Campbell Sings Where It's At LP).
― Tim Ellison, Monday, April 19, 2004 6:09 PM (5 years ago)

ysi plz?!?!?!?!?!?!?

― ✌.✰|ʘ‿ʘ|✰.✌ (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 6 April 2010 16:14 (sixteen years ago)

Playing Stealer's Wheel's best-of LP today-- Released in 1978, maybe to capitalize on success of "Baker Street." Had never noticed the chord-progession similiarity between "Stuck In The Middle With You" and Leo Sayer's "Long Tall Glasses (I Can Dance)" from two years later (1975), which lyrically is basically an updated Dylan-style fantastic-dream song. Not sure if Sayer's rhythm was influenced directly by Stealer's Wheel, or if they were both referencing some Dylan song I can't place.

Rest of the best-of, so far, is pleasant enough vaguely blues-tinged folk-rockinesss, but nothing's really jumped at out me. If something does, I'll be sure to say what.

― xhuxk, Monday, 19 April 2010 15:51 (sixteen years ago)

was at a friend's house this weekend and she played the Right or Wrong album, which sounded pretty good, with the title track a highlight. also there's not supposed to be an apostrophe in stealers wheel, right?

― mizzell, Monday, 19 April 2010 16:04 (sixteen years ago)

Yeah, good point; definitely none on the LP cover, or in the two Joel Whitburn guides I have. Sure seems like they should have one, though. Maybe they should steal the apostrophe from Chantay's (of "Pipeline" fame); those guys never really needed theirs anyway.

Anyway, though it apparently actually includes two other Top 50 U.S. hits ("Everyone's Agreed That Everything Will Turn Out Fine" and "Star," both charting in the 10 months after "Stuck In The Middle With You" hit #6, but neither of which I have any memory of ever hearing on the radio), nothing else from that Best Of LP grabs me much; "Right Or Wrong" might be the second catchiest song, and I like the rockish guitar parts in "Outside Looking In," but not even those stick with me. Not asking for another "Stuck" or "Baker Street," which are genius-level songs obviously, but at least something as memorable as "Right Down The Line" would be nice; that was good enough for me to hang onto my copy of City To City. (Looking at Whitburn's book now, I'm amazed that Rafferty hit the Top 30 four more times in the year and a half after "Baker Street"; I always think of him as a two or at most three-hit-wonder, including Stealers Wheel, but he wasn't.)

― xhuxk, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 01:11 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imnZDeSSU24

― abanana, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 01:27 (sixteen years ago)

From what I remember, "Days Gone Down" and "Get It Right the Next Time" didn't get the rock radio play in the U.S. that the City to City tracks did--it was adult contemporary stations for Night Owl from the get go.

The next album, Snakes & Ladders, got no play at all, which is too bad because it's a really good record. (Although I do remember seeing the animated music video for "Bring It All Home" a few times. Couldn't have been MTV because it was 1980. Night Flight maybe?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmBMikLI_hE

― Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 01:37 (sixteen years ago)

Wow! That Dick Campbell is so neat.

― Mark, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 01:39 (sixteen years ago)

Mike Bloomfield and Paul Butterfield played on that Dick Campbell album.

― Mark, Tuesday, 20 April 2010 01:42 (sixteen years ago)

More info on the Dick Campbell lp and about the artist.

http://webpages.charter.net/dickcampbell/

All time top 10 next Dylans.

http://www.scrammagazine.com/tags/dick-campbell

There are several new cd's out of his demo material as well as a ton of his music on youtube.

― gcampbell, Thursday, 29 April 2010 14:48 (sixteen years ago)

thirteen years pass...

On Top of the Pops!

I don't know what Joe Egan thinks so I'll be annoyed on his behalf that everyone thinks Gerry Rafferty wrote and sang this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tezLtCKPKV4

― Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Saturday, 6 January 2024 11:59 (two years ago)

Has anybody heard the Mouse and the Traps song "I satisfy"?

I bought a Mouse & The Traps compilation CD many years ago and that song is the best thing on it, they had a couple of other good songs but a lot of it is pretty mediocre tbh.

Said record also contains an Amazing song by the Outsiders, that I don't remember the name of exactly, but I remember it had a several-digit number in the title.

lol that would be 1523 Blair by the Outcasts

― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 6 January 2024 13:56 (two years ago)

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