klezmer - what's good, what's not; what's funny, what's serious?

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i've been downloading a lot of klezmer lately. i really like it but know comparatively little about it. i'm sure there are other threads about this but i'd like some tips. i'm quite into the idea of getting to know about the "authentic" side before i start delving into the more modern "comedy" stuff (have noticed tracks like "may the borscht be with you" etc), so com on, help me out... album names so i can buy some, good *old* recordings especially welcome, groups i should look out for, all that stuff... thanks

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 10:55 (twenty-two years ago)

klezmer

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:05 (twenty-two years ago)

slocki and Jordan to thread!

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)

anyone to thread! (thx rosemary)

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Slocki to thread!

I haven't heard very many funny klezmer records (well, the New Orleans Klezmer All-Stars have some funny tracks), but then I really haven't listened to a ton of klezmer. From my recent klezmer excursion, here's what I ended up liking most:

Klezmatics, anything

Klezmer Conservatory Band, 'Yiddish Rennaisance' (Don Byron and the singer on this record absolutely tear it up)

Flying Bulgar Klezmer Band - Pretty damn good klezmer. For Canadians.

David Tarras & the Musiker, 'Tanz!' - from the 50s, probably the oldest thing I've listened to. The arrangements are a little repetitive but the playing is great.

New Orleans Klezmer All-Stars, 'Manischalfwitz'

Frank London's Klezmer Brass All-Stars, 'Brotherhood of Brass' - not the mindfuck I was hoping for maybe, but it's pretty raw and has some great moments.

Plus a smattering of Tzadik stuff (I love Masada of course, but the New Klezmer Trio record I have was a little subdued for my tastes).

(x-post, haha)

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

like i think i said on the other thread:

naftule brandwein - the king of the klezmer clarinet
anything by abe schwartz
anything by dave tarras

of course even the early-20th-century american stuff can hardly be called "authentic" but who cares

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

that was an xpost! me and jordan rushed the thread!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

jordan's modern recommendations are good! also check out this:

http://cstrecords.com/html/blackox.html

they are my friends and they are excellent

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Wait, I thought your klezmer friends were the klez/hip-hop thing? :>

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

that's another friend!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

peter shapiro has a comedy klez album from about 1960-odd. it's all set in a jewish deli starts with a track called "how much is that pickle in the window" and has a cartoon picture of a red-faced old dude with a massive sausage on the cover. guess this and the new orleans klezmer all-stars tracks i've seen have led me to believe there's more comedy klezmer than there actually is. cheers, i'm listening to this stuff coz i really wanted to hear something different and being a gentile, i know nothing about it whatsoever so all info massively appreciated.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Slocki is down with the scene.

Also, a word to the wise: playing a klezmer gig the night before Easter Sunday = not such a good idea. The Klezbian Wedding Band did this and the first set was just fine, and then EVERYONE left (presumably to get up for church in the morning).

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

it's hard to avoid the comedy elements in most later and most of it is kind of aggravating (esp cutesy klezmer revivalist stuff), but that element is a part of 20th century n american jewish culture and shouldn't neccessarily be completely dismissed

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

nah, not at all. i'd just like to approach it by getting to know the serious stuff 1st. i mean, to my ears, initially klezmer is quite funny-sounding anyway (in that it makes me smile and sounds like music people have fun to) but i'd like to get to know about it properly and diving straight into the comedy stuff would probably end up putting me off.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

for sure! listen to the naftule brandwein and tarras stuff though, it's really beautiful and a very good example of what "classic" american klezmer was!

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Rob Weisberg sometimes has klezmer bands on Transpacific Sound Paradise, check out the archives.

tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I've always liked this article by the Klezmer Conservatory Band drummer on the development of klezmer drumming, and it's got other links.

Man, I heard this record at a friend's house once...I can't remember the name, but I think it had Bulgarian Wedding Band in the title. It was just sick, like Mahavishnu-dub-klezmer. Any ideas? I'm going to have to ask him and track it down.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

playing a klezmer gig the night before Easter
I wouldn't have expected that many non-Jews to show up to a klezmer gig, but I guess it depends where you live.
S: Toronto's Dave Wall. He plays in about a million klez bands, and he genuinely speaks Yiddish, which is always a good thing with klez singers.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha, here I would be surprised if there were any Jews there (okay, there were two that I know for sure). It wasn't a Jewish-affiliated gig at all though, just a jazz club.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

For 70s/80s revival: The Klezmorim

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

so what did you end up listening to dave?

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)


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