Do the BEACH BOYS get a bum wrap?

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I've been listening to several post-Pet Sounds albums lately, and there is a lot of great stuff there. The Beach Boys released 6 classic albums following Pet Sounds (Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20, Sunflower, and Surf?fs Up). But it seems like the story of the Beach Boys always reads like,?eWhat could have been, if only Brian Wilson had held it together.' What about what was? Several of those albums would be 'canonized', if they were made by different artists.

The post-Pet Sounds Beach Boys carry an undeserved stigma, and those albums are due for a critical reassessment. What do you think?

― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)

a bum WRAP?!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 02:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Those albums are great but they get progressively worse as the non-Brian Wilson tunes grow in number and decrease in quality.

― |OBEY|EYE|BO| (deangulberry), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

rap

yikes!

I swear, I can't make a question without writing something stupid. i swear, I'm not an idiot. I sound like an idiot again.

― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"surf's up" is in my personal beach boys top 5.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

(the song, not the album, although that's pretty good too)

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Critical reassesment of these records has been going on for some time...everything through Loved You is praised by somebody. Only way to go against the grain now is to say the 80s stuff rules.

― Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 02:27 (twenty-two years ago)

A "bum wrap" sounds like a spa treatment.

I think the Beach Boys through Pet Sounds are good but overrated. I think their post-BW albums have the reputation they deserve.

― Paul in Santa Cruz (Paul in Santa Cruz), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 02:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I have no idea about the amount Brian Wilson contributed to each record. However, it seems like his role in Friends was reduced, and that is a great album.

I think that's part of the problem. Brian Wilson was great, and Pet Sounds is great, but the other members get no respect.

― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Well the times sort of passed them by, too. I can only imagine those records being sort of quaint compared to a lot of what was coming out in the late 60's anyway.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 02:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree, but that's sort of their charm.

They are so atmospheric. Their Southern California existence.

― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 02:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Pet Sounds is overrated. It's good, it has its moments, but too many of the songs don't have basic vital pop ingredients, such as a tune. Don't Talk Put Your Head on My Shoulder? Don't Talk Put Your Crappy Bloody Monotone Wailing on My Earholes, more like.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 03:25 (twenty-two years ago)

The Beach Boys are kind of like Sonic Youth in that they have their worshippers, who think Brian Wilson is a production God. While I respect his work, I personally don't find any of it compelling enough to actually listen to.

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 03:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Debito otm on charm. I loved finding out that the cover of 'Wild Honey' was a photo of a window in Brian's house, especially after loving the colors on it when I was a kid.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 03:33 (twenty-two years ago)

As Mark said, the albums immediately post-Smile are held in pretty high regard. The critical reassesment you long for has already happened, I think.

Bum wrap: Lunchtime snack favored by Californian homosexualists.

― retort pouch (retort pouch), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:09 (twenty-two years ago)

That's the Santa Monica Blvd. Special to you, sir.

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Super!

― retort pouch (retort pouch), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:12 (twenty-two years ago)

What was that? Super-size it?

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes and I'd like some "dipping sauce" if you catch my drift

― retort pouch (retort pouch), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Drive thru!

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:18 (twenty-two years ago)

where the beach boys get their bum rap is BEFORE pet sounds, not after. i like pet sounds as much as the next guy, probably more, and for every album they recorded in the decade that followed, i can find a hipster who's convinced it's better than sebadoh, fiona apple and devendra banhart combined (or something like that). and they may even be right.

but the reason the beach boys rule is their pre-pet sounds catalog. "don't worry baby," "girl don't tell me," "catch a wave," "be true to your school," "the warmth of the sun," etc etc etc. their hits were almost all perfect and they had plenty of great b-sides and album cuts in there, too. how come no one talks about that stuff anymore?

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Because homosexual vagrant burrito-like sandwiches are a more popular topic?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:33 (twenty-two years ago)

"homosexual vagrant burrito-like sandwiches" was on "smiley smile," right? no, wait, it was on "surf's up," i think.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:34 (twenty-two years ago)

It's actually the b-side to the rare Indonesia alternate press 7" of "Vegetables". "Homeless Sandwich Spread" is on the Dutch version of Surf's Up though.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:38 (twenty-two years ago)

fcc, i was trying to compile a beach boys OPV and "warmth of the sun" was one of the first songs i thought of.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)

you know, that type-on was on purpose.

― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)

also, pet sounds probably is overrated (me, i swear by the vocals disc on the box set) but that doesn't stop "wouldn't it be nice" from being GORGEOUS.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)

and "wouldn't it be nice" was the closest thing to old-school beach boys on that album. and, yes, it's gorgeous.

as is "let's go away for awhile," which didn't sound like old-school beach boys at all, for whatever that's worth.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Pet Sounds is one of those records that even if EVERYONE from now until the end of time hated it, it's median critical consensus would still be tending to overrated. That doesn't mean that when I actually find time to put it on (or I hear the songs on the radio or in a film) it doesn't sound really nice.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't like how Pet Sounds defines the Beach Boys. Every subsequent album is 'nice, but no Pet Sounds.' All of the pre-Pet Sounds albums (which I don't know so well), would be 'nice, but pre-Pet Sounds.

Pet Sounds seems to undermine the Beach Boy's legacy in a way.

― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:50 (twenty-two years ago)

also underrated and maybe undermined:

pre-revolver beatles.
pre-beggars banquet stones.
pre-tommy who.
pre-what's going on marvin gaye.
pre-remain in light talking heads.
pre-back in black ac/dc.
etc.

funny how that works every time.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 04:57 (twenty-two years ago)

It's especially true if the 'masterpiece' is stylistically different than their other albums.

― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:01 (twenty-two years ago)

For example, the Who's 'The Who Sell Out.' Obviously, 'I Can See for Miles' is a very famous song, but the album as a whole seems to get overlooked. It's quite different than the later Who albums, so it doesn't fit neatly into the Who's catalogue.

― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:04 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't think that's true anymore. it has a lot of hipster cachet now.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:06 (twenty-two years ago)

would people please stop using the term 'hipster.'

― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:07 (twenty-two years ago)

In any case. That may be true. I don't think I know any hipsters.

― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:08 (twenty-two years ago)

i, on the other hand, live in new york.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:09 (twenty-two years ago)

The Who Sell Out is the last good Who record.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think I am alone in thinking that either.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I call it the "Thrid Album Rule" which operated throughout the 1970s and 1980s, The third album was the pinnacle, everything before it was brilliant in a different way, and it was followed by a slow (or fast) descent into albums increasingly characerized by just a one or two good songs, and eventually by the 5th album, mostly tripe with a few bright spots, over-produced for US radio.

Cases in point:
The Clash (London Calling being the 3rd)
Blondie (Parallel Lines being the 3rd, although one side of the 4th was brilliant too--call it a slow slide towards The Hunter. Oh don't make me talk about The Hunter)
The Jam (Setting Sons) after that, Homogenization + Red Wedge wtf?
Siousxie and the Banshees (Kaleidoscope)

The list is so long this needs its own thread...it was the dynamic of the decade, which came to an end un the 90s, when labels no longer went to the trouble of letting bands develop them, dropping them if the *first* album was not successful.

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:11 (twenty-two years ago)

this hipster thing seems to be a real problem in New York. can it be eradicated?

does the hipster thing relate to bands like the Strokes, the Walkmen, the French Kicks, and other such bands starting with 'the?'

― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Just because Pet Sounds gets mentioned A LOT in rock literature doesn't mean it's overrated. I mean, it IS a freaking masterpiece! And post-Smile Beach Boys records, no matter how good they were, were always WAY less ambitious than Pet Sounds or Smile.

― Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:13 (twenty-two years ago)

orbit: i'm pretty sure there was a third-album thread, but it's past my bedtime so i can't go searching for it.

setting sons, though, was the jam's fourth album. and they peaked on their fifth, sound affects.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:13 (twenty-two years ago)

(x-post)So what?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Ambition blah blah blah.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:14 (twenty-two years ago)

The third album thing is a real phenomenon. Partly it's due to creative momentum, I would guess. But partly it seems to be a model loved by critics. it makes for a nice story-line.

― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Plus a lot of these third albums suck.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Alex, I'm just responding to Debito, you, and Stockholm Cindy calling it overrated just a little upthread.

So, there's nothing to like about the ambitiousness of Pet Sounds or Smile, in your opinion?

― Tim Ellison, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:17 (twenty-two years ago)

No.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't call it overrated. It's certainly my favorite Beach Boys album (maybe my favorite album, period).

I just don't like that subsequent Beach Boys albums are often considered Pet Sounds-lite, or the Beach Boys best effort post-Pet Sounds.

― Debito (Debito), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)

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Do you also think the average person feels that Sonic Youth have been declining since Daydream Nation?
The average person has only dimly heard of them at best in the first place.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), April 22nd, 2004.

My point exactly.

― David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 22 April 2004 03:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Not much of one.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 April 2004 03:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Albums can be overrated without being wildly popular. And Pet Sounds isn't some completely unheard unheralded gem.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 April 2004 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I think once you've started rating albums, you're a music nerd by definition. And the music-rating community can (and has, in this case) overrate albums.

― Sym (shmuel), Thursday, 22 April 2004 03:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I stand strongley by the fact that, besides rock critics and their small readership, Pet Sounds isn't even considered.

― David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 22 April 2004 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)

So by your definition Pet Sounds can't be overrated because no one's heard it. Got it. Any other stunning insights you'd like to bestow?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 April 2004 03:51 (twenty-two years ago)

"accept"="except"

19x-post

― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 22 April 2004 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahahahahahaha

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 April 2004 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I concede Face to Face has a lot of good tracks, but that's the problem: they're only good, not great. Every time I listen to the album, I forget I'm listening to it. It's like one big flat line of noise. Preservation Act 2 is more enjoyable.

...I've just said too much, haven't I?

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Looking at the track listing...there's really not much filler on that album at all. "Little Miss Queen of Darkness," maybe. Maybe there's too much sameness amongst "Session Man," "House in the Country," "Most Exclusive Residence for Sale," and "Holiday in Waikiki." Combine this with the fact that it's a fourteen track album and you don't have the greatest album sequencing of all time. There are some REALLY GREAT songs on that album, though: "Party Line," "Too Much on My Mind," "Fancy," "Sunny Afternoon," "Rainy Day in June."

― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:25 (twenty-two years ago)

It's the sameness, but it's also just very dull. By Rainy Day in June I'm usually ready to pull my hair out. And that voice. 'There is no hope... no reasoniiiiiing...' ARGH!!

Sunny Afternoon is excellent, but it's a single, so you hear it too often. The others you mentioned don't do a thing for me, musically.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)

You don't think "Fancy" is a great song?!? I wish the entire album had that sleepy "Rainy Day in June" feel actually (even the rockers are fine.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm still waiting to hearing about this wrap filled with ass that the Beach Boys apparently got... WTF?!

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Aaah, maybe it was a wrap filled with homeless people.. sorry. I did the ASS-U-ME thing.. again!

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I think we discussed the vagrant tortilla issue up above actually.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Fancy's okay I guess. But then that's how I feel about every track. They're all just... okay. Rosie's the only reason I play the album now, and even that disappoints me.

Argh, all these HTML tags are giving me the shits.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)

But, I still play it more than Pet Sounds.

And we're back on topic! ZING!

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 22 April 2004 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)

woah woah woah - Aftermath is JUST OKAY???

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 22 April 2004 06:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay that was a bit extreme.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 22 April 2004 06:41 (twenty-two years ago)

i got your back, sorta, on pet sounds being overrated, though i still think it's great (i just like wild honey, smile, etc. better and gimme 'i get around'/'don't worry baby' as the beach boys pinnacle ANY day

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 22 April 2004 06:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I concede Face to Face has a lot of good tracks, but that's the problem: they're only good, not great ... Preservation Act 2 is more enjoyable.

preservation act 2 was their best album since preservation act 1.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 22 April 2004 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I think "Pet Sounds" is better than "Revolver." And I think "Aftermath" is better than either one. I'm not such a big fan of the first Love album. Second one, which was released early in '67 and recorded '66, would be my vote for the second-best rock album of the year. I mean why go by years, anyway? The abovementioned, "Safe as Milk," "Cold Sweat" (the song), "Face to Face," "5D," "Turn! Turn! Turn!" are all pretty great, and all came out within roughly the same 12-month period.

I have to agree that "PS" is rated too highly by the small fanatical horde of Beach Boys admirers. The only songs average folks know are "God Only Knows" and "Sloop John B." The thing is, that record was given what I think is its proper rating years ago, in Cohn's "Rock from the Beginning." Something along the lines of sad songs about sadness, sad songs about happiness; some of it was exquisite, some of it was drippy. That about sums it up, and that was 1968. The other thing I agree with in this thread is that it's not a rock album. Some people I know, who don't exactly have a pop sensibility but who appreciate that thing called "just good music, man," say that Wilson got antsy because he didn't really want to be a rock musician--therefore the album pushed categories, created a category that didn't really exist before. Which makes sense, actually. But "PS" lacks energy, doesn't it? Awfully static. That's why I actually prefer "Wild Honey." "Love You" is "PS" gone middle-aged and a bit creepy--instead of tripping, everyone was just watching television and doing some lines, in between eating sundaes.

"Face to Face"--well, I never listen to the Kinks any more, except for the early raucous stuff. But "FTF" is good when someone puts it on, always like to hear "Most Exclusive Residence." I dunno, the Kinks were kinda in the same boat as the Beach Boys by that point, weren't they? Dirtier old river than the Pacific. I find "Something Else" and "Village Green" something of a drag these days, but there are some good songs. Again, no record can live up to its hype--we could name plenty, like "Radio City," which is a good example...to me, these records are just part of rock and roll history, and I believe their boosters want them to stand outside that history. "Radio City" fits right in with Wings, or Fleetwood Mac, or any number of more popular artists' work--a very good pop album. As does "Pet Sounds."

― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 22 April 2004 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I think 'Wouldn't It Be Nice' is more famous than 'Sloop John B', in the UK, at least.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 22 April 2004 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I think this board is probably evidence of what Debito was talking about. Everything about the Beach Boys is about Pet Sounds. Even a thread meant to be chatting about (relatively) unheard of BB albums.

On a similar topic, I think the people who actually collaborated with Brian (including the other Beach Boys and the people they worked with) are pretty ignored. Sure, they drag Van Dyke out to talk about Smile but even people like Roger Christian or Tony Asher or Gary Usher - ie the people who 'defined' the group as much as anyone else -are one line footnotes. At best.

I guess cos neither the pre- or post-PS/Smile albums or 'normals' working with him tie in with the whole 'Brian = singular, fucked up genius' theory. Genius and fuck-ups sell magazines, books and tickets to the Golden Jubilee.

― Jim Cassius (J.Cassius), Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Side Two of Pet Sounds is god-like from beginning to finish.

― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 22 April 2004 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Pet Sounds is great! Just wanted to clear that up.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I listen to 20/20 and Wild Honey a lot more often than Pet Sounds though. Daydream Nation is also the last great Sonic Youth album. Just in case you were wondering. Pretty much a snooze-fest after that one.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I can't think of a single album from 1966 that's really very good.

-- Autumn Almanac (ada...), April 22nd, 2004.

Are you being silly? or are you just crazy? Cuz you sound really crazy. and silly.

― scott seward (scott seward), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

i can't think of a single album EVER that's really very good. except pet sounds, of course. and maybe daydream nation.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

This board? Nah - rubbish. It's just the way this thread has turned out, mainlyh cause of the Tim and Alex thing. Have a look at these threads for starters:

The Beach Boys in the Seventies: Classic or Dud?
Post-Smile Beach Boys albums?
Post Surf's Up Beach Boys - C/D S/D

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott 4x-post: I hear ya on both points! Pet Sounds is so dense that you don't just want to put it on. You're only going to put it on if you're going to sit and listen to it.

Almanac, you don't like any of the albums from Alex's list upthread???

― Tim Ellison, Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I only know one.

― Autumn Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 22 April 2004 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

No, the Beach Boys get a Chicken wrap. From KFC.

There. Now I have said it, I can stop THINKING it every time I see this THREAD!!

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 23 April 2004 07:14 (twenty-two years ago)

are those things any good? they look kinda good. but they've got no bum in them.

― Debito (Debito), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:15 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread title cheers me up every day.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 23 April 2004 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)

six years pass...

has this news been noted? yikes.
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/06/latest_highly_unlikely_band_re.html

― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:23 (fifteen years ago)

well, Al Jardine could probably use some money

― iatee, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:24 (fifteen years ago)

can't imagine Brian would actually want to do this

― in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:31 (fifteen years ago)

brian doesn't seem to hate mike love as much as the rest of the world does

― iatee, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:32 (fifteen years ago)

eh I seem to recall him saying in recent interviews "I never want to see/work with/deal with Mike Love ever again" or thereabouts. Mike sued him over the Smile tour iirc

― in my day we had to walk 10 miles in the snow for VU bootleg (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:35 (fifteen years ago)

yeah but I also remember them appearing together and joking about mike love's addiction to lawsuits. forgot when that was though?

― iatee, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:39 (fifteen years ago)

tbh i'm glad mike love exists so i can have some of the same peace of mind people who believe in absolute evil do

― I am an old guy, and I prefer the late 90s. (Matt P), Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:43 (fifteen years ago)

his head makes me believe in karma

― iatee, Tuesday, 22 June 2010 17:51 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/02/08/beach-boys-to-join-maroon-5-and-foster-the-people-on-grammys-stage/?ref=music

The Beach Boys will perform at the Grammy Awards on Sunday, marking the first time the founding members of that band have played together in public in two decades, the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences announced. The seminal pop group will perform with Maroon 5 and Foster the People, both of which are nominated for awards this year.

The Beach Boys’ lineup for the performance will include the group’s original leaders Brian Wilson and Mike Love, along with another founding member, Al Jardine. Those three were part of the quintet that formed in Hawthorne, Calif., in 1961.

― curmudgeon, Friday, 10 February 2012 14:17 (fourteen years ago)

I wonder what horrors we can expect from their new album

― max buzzword (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:08 (fourteen years ago)

nine years pass...

listening to the super deluxe edition of Purple and this was a big surprise when it popped up on the demos disc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lKLMacU5OM

― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 2 September 2021 09:59 (four years ago)

Amazing thread title

― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 September 2021 13:49 (four years ago)

Yes, the Beach Boys get the bum wrap every time they visit their favorite spa, it leaves their buns so soft and smooth, it's amazing

― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 September 2021 14:03 (four years ago)

I'd like to give a complete ass like Mike Love a bum wrap.

― birdistheword, Thursday, 2 September 2021 14:58 (four years ago)

sorry to mike love and his subpar burrito

― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Thursday, 2 September 2021 16:46 (four years ago)

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