Ministry "Twitched" -- the outtakes from "Twitch" -- WTF?!

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I happened upon this used CD yesterday. But first some background....

Ministry's "Twitch" from 1986 was a cornerstone of my musical discoveries in high school. It's exactly what I was looking for in dance music, and had turned me onto Wax Trax! and On-U Sound in one feel swoop. (It's really the only reason I picked up this Twitched CD)

So yeah, seeing this yesterday was rather startling. Here's the tracklisting:

1.Just Like You
2.We Believe
3.The Angel
4.Isle Of Man (Version 1)
5.Over The Shoulder
6.Possession (original longer version of "My Possession")
7.Abortive (original version, later released on Land Of Rape And Honey)
8.Twitch -- Part 1
9.The Angel (7" version never released)
10.Over The Shoulder (extended version)
11.Isle Of Man (Version 2)
12.Twitch (Version 2)

Apparently, Twitch was initially intended to be Tracks 1 through 8, above, but I guess it wasn't good enough. (which, having now listened to this, I agree, given how fucking amazing "Crash And Burn/Where You At Now/Twitch Part 2" was as an ending to the final Twitch). Otherwise, unless noted after the track, the songs are the same versions as the final release of the album, including the rather redundant inclusion of the "Over The Shoulder" 12" as bonus tracks.. however great that single is.

This is/was released on Radioactive records. The artwork is really bad, in a Cleopatra Records way, except possibly worse. Inside is quite a comprehensive history of Al Jourgensen's musical journey, from his early punk days to recent days, with rather non-subtle editorials and opinions injected at certain points. Too bad there are some errors in the piece...("Over The Shoulder" was released as a single BEFORE Twitch, not after)

More embarrassingly, they fuck up the mastering a little on Track #2. The beginning second of "We Believe" is missing, which considering it begins on the beat is really lame, and should have been caught.

More curiously, how the hell was this released without protest from Sire? This CD has a UPC code and everything...

WTF?!

(My first piece for my upcoming publication WTF?!)


donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Al probably was promised some smack money if this snuck out.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, first off, I thought Al was clean. Maybe when he saw the album art for this CD, it finally scared him straight.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

This is true.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Well at least this CD isn't what I thought it was, which was a tribute compilation to Twitch by anonymous EBM bands of today. I would have burst into tears inside the record store and required the police to take me home.

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.kuci.org/~brianm/ile/covers/twitch_front.jpg
http://www.kuci.org/~brianm/ile/covers/twitch_back.jpg

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

WTF indeed!

this album probably meant as much to me as you donut bitch.it totally ruled my life for several years. so much so, that to this day i still dj under the 'twitch' moniker. it's pretty sad that it has been rehashed in such a thoughtless manner. i guess sire sold the rights off dirt cheap as they couldn't be bothered / didn't think it would sell very much. still, i would have though al would have more concern for his past history.

hopefully this won't make it over this side of the pond.

stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Al's camp pose on the back makes it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)

ugh! what a horrible job they did on the artwork and the photo on the back is from several years later!

stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

well, I don't think Sire has shoved the album off completely... you can still find Twitch new in stores for cheap. And Twitched is not meant to replace Twitch... at least, I hope not.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Even Cleopatra Records uses a fraction of the real estate for their logo than Radioactive did here... the more I look at this, the more agitated I get.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:07 (twenty-two years ago)

the nostalgia is taking over.

i just remembered the day i bought this along with 'big sexy land' by rev co. and 'major malfunction' by keith le blanc. the future had arrived.

stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

All that I can say is that the idea of a CD with TWO VERSIONS OF "ISLE OF MAN" ON IT has made me cum in my pants; I can probably never listen this because my mental image is just too, too high.

_Twitch_ is one of the greatest CDs ever recorded and stands to this day as the best thing Ministry ever put out.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)

What still pissed me off about the Bigsexyland CD is that it does not include the Benign version of "You Often Forget", which is their greatest track ever.

But yeah, Major Malfuction, all those Tackhead 12"s, it's all coming back to me..

Dan OTM about Twitch.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)

when i say this in of course mean 'twitch' not 'twatted' or whatever this nasty is called.

aren't there two versions of isle of man already available?

stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)

wow are we all that old? twitch was a pretty landmark release for me too. along, with, ah, motorslug. and that revolting cocks record.

mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I'll say this.. the original version of "Abortive" is quite great compared to the Rape And Honey version, otherwise, the second versions of "Isle Of Man" and "Twitch" are superior to their respective first versions. And I don't really notice anything too different about "Possession" as opposed to "My Possession".

I'm sad that Al uses the really weird feminine voice only on "Over The Shoulder". He really should have gone with that instead of the sinister distorted voice.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

motorslug! 'keep your eyes on the road and your hands upon the wheel'.

for me, 'attack ships on fire' was / is the greatest revco moment.

i co promoted them in glasgow in around '89 and they practically cleared out the whole supply of drugs in the entire city.

I'm sad that Al uses the really weird feminine voice only on "Over The Shoulder"

for some reason, it alwways sounded like a michael jackson pastiche to me.

stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:16 (twenty-two years ago)

for some reason, it alwways sounded like a michael jackson pastiche to me.

That's why I liked it! This was the very first Ministry song I ever heard, and I thought it was a weird old woman imitating the King Of Pop at first. (Hey, I was a sheltered 15 year old.. my mind wasn't quite as open yet)

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

the second versions of "Isle Of Man" and "Twitch" are superior to their respective first versions.

You're missing my point: "TWO VERSIONS OF ONE OF THE GREATEST SONGS EVER ON ONE ALBUM OMG OMGOMGOMG"

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm glad i wasn't alone on the king of pop thing.

'angel' was the first one i heard. darn it, i need to go to zzzz but this thread has compelled me to dig it out,

stirmonster, Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)

My first Ministry song = "Everyday Is Halloween". I was introduced to Ministry, Skinny Puppy and Cabaret Voltaire all at the same time via a mixtape made by one of my brother's college associates; GOD I LOVED THE SUMMER OF 1987.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Bother, because I first started hearing about all that a year later and then Rape and Honey was the touchstone. Which I think was a bad thing in retrospect.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 April 2004 00:35 (twenty-two years ago)

oh man... the summer of 1987. i think twitch (or maybe big sexy land) is pumping out of my walkman headphones that are just visible in my freshman college ID photo (below). those were the days... (yes, i know i looked like a doofus.)

http://chrisboy.com/img/cy_87_id.jpg

chr1sb0y (chr1sb0y), Thursday, 22 April 2004 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

WOW are you the love child of Marc Almond and Sally Jesse Raphael????

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 April 2004 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I loved ministry from Land of Rape and Honey through Psalm 69 and I never bothered to get Twitch cos Al said 'don't even bother shop lifting it' in interviews.

Am I missing out?

mei (mei), Thursday, 22 April 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

So how come I can't find a listing for this thing on Amazon? Where can I buy it?

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 22 April 2004 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Am I missing out?

Al has never been more wrong about anything than he was when he decided to completely dismiss his pre-_Land Of Rape And Honey_ catalogue.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 22 April 2004 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

on amazon: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000002L84/qid=1082665196/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-9608086-0920805?v=glance&s=music

from my fading memory of magazine articles way back when, i think adrian sherwood really went to town as producer on this, and even when it was released jourgenson didn't like the direction things had taken?? but maybe i'm on crack....

chr1sb0y (chr1sb0y), Thursday, 22 April 2004 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Al has said good things about Adrian Sherwood and how amazing a producer he was, but that Twitch was not what Al "ultimately wanted" or something to that affect. You get a slight hint of the pre-Land Of Rape And Honey sound on that last triage on Twitch "Where You At Now/Crash And Burn/Twitch".. and a little Twitchiness on The Land Of Rape And Honey bonus tracks like "Hizbollah" and "I Prefer".. and also on the track "Land Of Rape And Honey", for obvious reasons, "Abortive", since it was originally meant to be on Twitch, as Twitched claims ostensibly.

In general, don't ever listen to Al's advice on what music made by Al to get. This means that Pailhead's entire catalog is "not worth shoplifting" by definition, which is just plain stupidity, given those songs were the prototypes for Al's "bad ass" phase. (also, to further underscore Dan's comment above).

Since The Land Of Rape And Honey, Ministry have always been a FAR better backing band than they have been their own band. Pailhead & Lard & 1000 Homo DJS & PTP & Acid Horse & certain moments of Revco from 1988 and on far outshine anything released under Ministry proper... Al and Paul should have just been committed to being great sessions musicians with different frontmen their entire career. They've actually shown more looseness and creativity through their outlets that way. The only RAWK Ministry that's tolerable is "Jesus Built My Hotrod"... with Gibby Haynes as the singer. I arrest my case.

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 22 April 2004 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I would argue that "Thieves" and "Burning Inside" are both much better RAWKers than "Jesus Built My Hotrod", AKA "The Song That Cemented That Ministry Was No Longer Interested In Doing Music That Appealed To Me" (or, on bad days, "That Fucking Terrible Song").

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 April 2004 01:25 (twenty-two years ago)

But Dan, these are sensations as hard to forget as they are to ignore.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 April 2004 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)

It was "Thieves" that pretty much did that to me (as far as making me not like Ministry as much), but "Jesus Built My Hotrod" was an exception only because Gibby added far more to the song than Al could, vocally.

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 23 April 2004 01:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, does anyone remember the videos to Ministry circa A Mind Is A Terrible Thing To Taste? They were all like the Duran Duran "Wild Boys" video... except some short fucker in a cowboy hat did the lip-syncing.

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 23 April 2004 01:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, "Thieves" did that to me intially as well, but then I heard the rest of the album and went "Wow, that first track isn't so bad."

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 23 April 2004 01:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I still have a fondness for "Burning Inside," which is the greatest Killing Joke track not recorded by Alex's favorite fire honourers.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 April 2004 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)

HAHAHAHAHA

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 23 April 2004 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

The verses on "The Wait" certainly were foreshadowing, weren't they?

donut bitch (donut), Friday, 23 April 2004 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

The whole fucking first album was foreshadowing! Listen to the chorus of "Wardance"!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 23 April 2004 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)

seven years pass...

Where does the “Frighten me? No, Frank, I think startled is a better word” sample come from?

Listened to this for the first time in many forevers. More lethargic than I remembered cept for the dynamite closing triptych. One could claim that this is their/his Riot/Exile in an effort to resuscitate it. But that wouldn't quite work with such a belligerent band/project. It still gets me off vertically (all those radio transmission-like samples and weird, vaguely Human Leaguey sound effects) but horizontally it's a touch too slow and soft for me. And "My Possession" sounds like a confused cover of Prince's "Sexuality."

Great album cover, though.

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 4 May 2011 00:44 (fifteen years ago)


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