Blue Cheer box set

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has anyone heard about this? Some reissue arm of the revamped Universal is putting it out...? Details...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 April 2004 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

It focuses on the long neglected segment of the Blue Cheer catalog featuring Ralph Burns Kellogg.

Deniz Flek of the Tektones, Friday, 23 April 2004 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

It has 7 alternate takes of "Hello L.A. Bye Bye Birmingham"

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 23 April 2004 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

just 7? gyp

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 23 April 2004 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

ILM in useless smartassery shockah

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 April 2004 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry Shakey, it's a slow Friday. Um, I can't really imagine what this would include beyond the original records though. It seems as though everything that could be exhumed has already been exhumed. Did you ever catch either of those Captain Trip live things?

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 23 April 2004 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe they found some tapes...good...tapes...of good...stuff...from...maybe... (feebly flapping hands and hoping for the best)

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

It's weird that after admonishing everyone who posted for lack of content, Shakey never answered my on-topic question! Oh well. El Sabor, have you heard either of those Captain Trip things?

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:02 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry Broheems had some work to do for a second! I have no idea what Captain Trip thing you speak of... I only have Vincebus Eruptum and have heard the second one, which is next on my list. I'm not sure if I'm interested in anything past that but I'm curious and someone mentioned this forthcoming box set thing to me but had no details.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 April 2004 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Perhaps more Randy Holden? Doubtful...

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I haven't heard them but they put out two live CDs, one from '67 and one from '68 I think. So, both with the Leigh Stephens line-up. Apparently the sound quality is really atrocious. But supposedly this was all the archival live material anyone could fine, hence they decided to put them out anyway. I think the second had such bad fidelity they sold it at a reduced list price! Anyway, that's what leads me to wonder what else could possibly be included on any potential box set... I would like to at least hear those live things at some point, but could never bring myself to shell out for them.

Hmm, well you should definitely get the second one, and New! Improved! is worth it as well. Stephens is gone by that point but it's still good and heavy, just not in a wild and dissonant way. Less Ornette Coleman, more Black Sabbath. But still a good one.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 23 April 2004 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah I was suprised by the first one in that it had *less* Sabbath-y stuff than I expected and instead had a fair amount of what sounds like just total free-form overdrive, which is a weird thing for a three-piece to do (in '68 anyway), go galloping off with no groove holding them together. This is not a bad thing btw, I quite like it. I love that guitar sound.

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 April 2004 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)

This is not a bad thing btw, I quite like it. I love that guitar sound.

Then you would probably like the recent "Live in Japan" recording. It has the advantage of being done recently, is not of atrocious quality and makes the most of the technological advances that have allowed good levels and recording of total greasechain guitar. It's probably a better performance, too, than Blue Cheer was capable of in the Leigh Stephens days.

The songs are on it, the angry tatooed ex-con woman-hating burned chrome vibe, still in the mire of Vincebus Eruptum. The only thing really missing is the vinyl crackle and Abe Kesh. As far as real loud hard rock performances, it's a keeper although you won't be coming back to it a lot.

George Smith, Friday, 23 April 2004 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

is that "bye bye tokyo hello osaka" (or summat)? i remember the guy at WTSR playing basically an entire cd of recent blue cheer live stuff, it was totally on to a degree i hadn't expected. especially after "the beast is back."

broheems - i've heard (but don't own) the second capt. trip blue cheer thing and it sounded like ass. ass recorded from the parking lot, at that.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Saturday, 24 April 2004 00:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, I think so. It's called "Live In Japan" in the USA and it was released almost everywhere else prior to stateside. Like I said, it's a good recording, the band's well rehearsed and very into delivering the songs ala punch-yer-face.

George Smith, Saturday, 24 April 2004 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

i think if you buy a recently recorded live blue cheer album, your hair starts thinning and you are compelled to start making a collection of poorly-fitting classic rock t-shirts

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 24 April 2004 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

two years pass...
Anyone catch them on their tour? Are they worth seeing live in 06?

T. Weiss (Timmy), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:56 (twenty years ago)

There's a thread about this (the current Blue Cheer shows) somewhere...
I can't remember what the consensus was, but I know I'll definitely be at the Philly show next monf.

Chris Bee (Cee Bee), Friday, 26 May 2006 19:40 (twenty years ago)

fifteen years pass...

JUst found some talk about the 6 piece line up or at least a poster thereof.
So wondering if they sounded similar to the 3 piece they stripped down to shortly afterwards.
Heavy bluesy stuff. & wondered what did pass as heavy in 66. Thinking about it I guess there are bits of heaviness in British stuff from teh time Small Faces, Who , a few others and then Cream though not sure even they had explored a direction consciously thought of as heavy at that point or if they actually did(seems like influence may have been not the direction they intended, more side effects of what their actual exploration was etc) & Hendrix was just getting to England and not established in any way . & I don't think heavy was focus with teh Brits acts who touched on it.
Stones weren't looking for heaviness in their Blues I don't think, more a refracted authenticity or something.
I did hear tehre are some pretty raucous recordings of a late 50s Muddy Waters Band that really rock but not sure about heavy. & a few people like Link Wray laying down some grungey chordage

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 April 2022 11:21 (four years ago)

From a show preview featurette I wrote in '07(?):

Born Under a LOUD Sign
...The main problem, beyond their best early albums, was that, although volume and emphasis could make a lot of other stuff irrelevant, they could also get to be as predictable as anything else. Plus, what happens when you don’t die young, or at all? Bassist Dickie Petersen’s voice has gotten rougher (maybe), but has also lasted for forty years of touring, born to push its way through outlandish inspirations, b-plus boogie, and basic bar-band lineups alike (original guitarist Stephens left pretty quickly; original drummer Paul Whaley has come and gone).
Blue Cheer’s current guitarist-vocalist-producer, Andrew “Duck” MacDonald, does right by Whaley and Petersen on their new set, “What Doesn’t Kill You…” (Whaley’s back for half of it, but the drums of Pentagram’s Joe Hasselvander fill and fit in.) Almost all the songs are MacDonald/Peterson collaborations, or written by Petersen alone. “Rollin’Dem Bones” isn’t a good opener, and B.C.’s cover of Albert King’s “Born Under A Bad Sign” isn’t that great, but several other tracks use “Sign” ‘s kind of bump and grind, its bounce and stomp, as one heavy point of timely arrival and departure. Overdubbed guitar harmonies get a little fancy at times, but everybody on board (singing as well as playing) still knows when to stretch and otherwise torture notes, and when to curve and carve slabs of sound. And “ Young Lions In Paradise” is soulful, rueful country, in the sense that a lot of today’s country (like Van Zant) is actually rootsy rock. The stated idea for this album is “Z Z Top meets Black Sabbath,” and it’s fun like that, but things don’t get supernatural unless they have to. Mainly, we get a scorched and fried community, so look out for “Gypsy Rider,” and especially that “Maladjusted Child” (“She just ain’t right, I tells ya!”). You’ll hear them coming.
Blue Cheer will play at the Thirsty Ear this Friday night.

dow, Thursday, 28 April 2022 14:53 (four years ago)

Weird fact I never knew about the original line-up is that the keyboard player was Vale Hamanaka, later head honcho of RE/Search Publications (publisher of Modern Primitives, Angry Women etc) under the name V. Vale.

greyfriars boaby (Matt #2), Thursday, 28 April 2022 16:51 (four years ago)

I saw the band had an Asian American member in the photo on the poster. I thought that was rare for a mid 60s band.

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 April 2022 16:55 (four years ago)


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