This is the thread where we talk about Meat Beat Manifesto, one more time

satyricon was one my favorite albums for the longest time.

mr. danger's site is at http://tapelab.org

testing

So how DO people get bold letters in their thread titles? I don't intend to abuse such knowledge, but I'd like to know.

strap down part 3, still only on the vinyl version.

Here's a great MBM lyric that sums up my feeling about the current state of music:
"I'm stuck in 1979!
it's a CRIME
it's SO SUBLIME"

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But as soon as someone answers it then it ceases to bold:

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perennial divide had some records out on sweatbox but they weren't that great iirc.

HS

Satyricon had just come out and I was mostly into that and 99%. 99% and it's predecessors were VERY influential, ask so many producers of any sort of electronic dance music who were into industrial at the time, MBM was the one band I think who REALLY got the funk, even if it was in the form of sampling Public Enemy and old disco records, but Dangers also did all kinds of crazy interesting production techniques.

I think Satyricon fell through the cracks and wasn't as big as it should've been, despite 120 minutes playing Edge of No Control. I think it was a weird mixture of industrial, new wave and techno, but too industrial for new wave and techno fans, too new wave for industrial and techno fans, too techno for industrial and new wave fans etc.

early in college I borrowed tapes of Storm the Studio and Armed Audio Warfare, and as I was going through my NOISE phase was more impressed with the moments that sounded like Merzbow producing hip hop then the post-Steinski/Coldcut 'Mars Needs Women' moments.

But I have not been into anything after Satyricon. I really didn't like the direction he went, it was like, the wrong direction or something.

And I also learned recently that MBM's attempt for their first album circua 1986/1987 was to try and "out-do" Mark Stewart + Maffia's As The Veneer Of Democracy Starts To Fade. They'd fail though, although tracks from the sessions would end up on Sweatbox compilations like Bark, with the track "Kneel and Buzz" for example. In the early 90s, Armed Audio Warfare would be released and be a collection of some of that really early noisy stuff and other odds and ends... hence the Merzbox-producing-hip-hop sound of the earliest material. (whether you believe the liner notes that the early tapes were destroyed in a fire is up to you ;) )

1 DHS House Of God (Jack Dangers Mix)
2 Nine Inch Nails Closer (Deviation)
3 David Bowie You've Been Around (Dangers Mix)
4 Deepsky Stargazer (Tuff mix)
5 Atomic Babies Cetcha Da' Monkey (Sonolgy Instrumental Mix)
6 Shamen, The Hyperreal (Selector Mix)
7 David Byrne Ava (Nu Wage Mix)
8 Freddy Fresh Party Right (All Terrain Mountain Mix)
9 Banco De Gaia How Much Reality Can You Take? (Mysterious Drum Mix)
10 Papa Brittle Status Quo (Westminster Dub)
11 Tino Liquid Dub (Jack Dangers Mix)

Not meant to be complete by any means but it's a good sampling. This is the post where I encourage DC or others to project what a sequel would contain.

MMM WHAT LOVELY LOVELY BEATS I AM LISTENING TO RIGHT NOW.

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http://www.studio-c.co.uk/maliciousdamage/graphics/theorb.jpg

It's brilliant, and comes in a beatifully shiny tin ala PiL's Metal Box

Find out more here: http://www.maliciousdamage.co.uk/

i like the look of that. so whats the sounds like .. all dubbed up classic orb style of unlistenable noisestuff ..

Seriously, this all looks very appealing. But the truth is I don't have much time for music at all these days, even the new New Order. And that makes me sad.

(That said, I wouldn't mind if El-P stuck to instrumental albums only)

I think the drummer is Lynn Farmer if I'm not mistaken.. or else someone who looks just like him. If it's Lynn, he was the live drummer from the last tour. (that's a good thing.)

But again, if you're hoping for anything more than a track and a half from At The Center, you'll be disappointed -- as far as the track listing goes. You'll still dig on the show... unless you hate multi-media video collage/pscyhedelia... that's a BIG part of this show moreso than any previous MBM show I've seen.

My only complaint is the merch, which was waaay overpriced in my opinion. I'm pretty flexible with $12 CDs and even $25-$30 dollar hoodies.. but, let's just say the prices were even more expensive, and I just went "hmmm, i'll just get this stuff off tinocorp.com" which is what you don't want to necessarily do when you're on tour trying to get cash. It might be more expensive via mailorder, but at least mailorder will likely allow credit cards. Merch booths don't take credit cards (yet). It just seemed a bit unrealistic to expect people to be carrying that much cash on hand for all the stuff they had to offer. I mean, this wasn't an Acid Mothers Temple or Mainliner show... haha.

But aside from the merch issue, GO GO GO to the show.. even if you're going just for Dub Trio.

I listen to it now and am happy.

Merch pricing has gotten ridiculous lately in many corners. A pity.

MBM GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD. Dub Trio BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD.

We were making jokes at dinner, based on what we had heard about Dub Trio, about them needing to be called Dubhammer. Then we actually saw/heard them and realized to our horror that we were completely OTM.

But yes, Mr. Dangers and his merry men were a damned good treat and a half, and I loved spotting all the footage I recognized. DJ Z-Trip joined them about halfway through and took to an even higher level, did a particularly smoking version of "Helter Skelter." I R the happy. Donut, Francesca says hi and is aggreived you haven't come down more often to see her and the rest of us!

I haven't seen them live myself, just listened to the record and talked to friends who have seen them. I've seen Joe play with Birth a number of times though.

i am electro
spinning 'round dub
shotgun! (blast to the brain)
hello teenage america
radio babylon
?boss society or listen for the echo?
god O.D. pt.1
no purpose, no design
its the music
retrograde dub
nuclear bomb
helter skelter
she's unreal
i am a zombie
?unknown - tape lab thingee perhaps?
edge of no control pt.2
prime audio soup
house of god

footstep dub
book of shadows
Tino drum lesson(-esque)

I only saw two seconds of Dub Trio but heard them for a while before arriving at the venue. Their fans HATED their set, but the MBM fans sorta dug it because it was loud and stuff.. haha.

(Ned: Tell P + F to get their asses up to see my aggreived ass!)

As MBM fans, we did not dig it for the noise, that Dub Trio set. So there is difference.

(Beg, borrow, steal to go to the Boston show, sir.)

I just remember walking in with people having their fingers in their ears and their eyes rolled back in their heads. It sounded like a Mark Stewart + The Maffia show from the outside all muffled, but I guess it was not quite the same thing when actually inside.. haha.

yesterday i got lucky and found actual sounds + voices in the bins.
according to amazon it's a bugger to get now.
this reawakening make me go off and dig out the SS double set that i had buried deep and rediscovering it all over again.
brilliant.
agree re the cover art recently, but the good news is that the new album is going to have Rich Borge back on board as i think his visuals are an essential part of the MBM atmosphere.

I've been thinking about MBM lately. Pulled out Actual Sounds a few months ago. They're supposedly playing here in Seattle soon.

Reposted from my latest listening thread entry:

Not as nostalgic as it sounds: Meat Beat Manifesto - Subliminal Sandwich. Back in 1996, the second disc was "challenging" to me, and I mostly left it alone unless I was really high on something, but after a few years of soaking in minimal house and Villalobos and Richie Hawtin and such, it sounds... wow. Fucking killer. (Do I dare say, "Ahead of its time?" No, I do not.) Check out "Electric People."

ha i just listened to "Radio Babylon" via Youtube for the first time in oh 16 years or so. i remember that it sounded so futuristic at the time, now it just sounds badly put together & clunky.

So much of the older stuff just does not work anymore, if it ever did (jack, seriously, stfu with the rapping), But "Actual Sounds" is an excellent album precisely because he finally figured out that less can be more and focused on making awesome beats, which is what he always did best anyway.

Back in 1996, the second disc was "challenging" to me, and I mostly left it alone unless I was really high on something, but after a few years of soaking in minimal house and Villalobos and Richie Hawtin and such, it sounds... wow. Fucking killer.

can i please add a lazy assed "OTM!" to this statement, ta.

I've only heard Subliminal Sandwich, and I love it; what else do I need?

braveclub : Actual Sounds + Voices is amazing.
hardly been bothered to listen to anything else since i got it this week.

Thanks.

Ouch, though, £46 on Amazon...

dig deep and you may get lucky and find it buried in the bins for a fiver.
good luck.

via email:

AUTOIMMUNE PRE-ORDER

We are starting a pre-order for the new album in the MBM Store immediately. Pre-Order today and grab an EXCLUSIVE T-shirt for only $15.00 more. All other merchandise is 15% off for anyone who pre-orders the new CD.

A reminder - the album release date is April 8 (April 7 in the UK & Europe though Planet Mu); this is now a single disc. The track listing is as follows:
1. International
2. I Hold The Mic!
3. Hellfire
4. Less
5. Solid Waste
6. Lonely Soldier
7. Children Of Earth
8. Young Cassius
9. Guns N Lovers
10. Return To Bass
11. 62 Dub
12. Colors Of Sound
13. Spanish Vocoder
14. International Reprise

::bump::

LET'S DO THIS YOU GUISE!!!

They put out a really pleasant album last year that I have virtually no recollection of but enjoyed while I listened to it (Opaque Couche)

"Dogstar Man/Helter Skelter" remains one of the greatest musical triumphs of mankind

99% is one of the greatest of albums.

That's all I have to contribute.

I'm not as hot on Armed Audio Warfare but as a whole, their discography is immaculate up until R.U.O.K. (which I might actually like if I ever bothered to revisit it)

FYI I'm listening to R.U.O.K. and liking it a hell of a lot more than I did back in the day

I wish I still had my MBM t shirt.

I’m going to relisten to Satyricon after the discussion on the Shamen thread. I remember it being really exciting and I wonder if it’s relative obscurity is partly down to the really bland record sleeve

'storm the studio' is in the top ten best lps of the 80's.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 00:25 (sixteen years ago)

i'd like to revise this and say it would not now be in my list of the top ten best lps of the 80's. top 50 maybe.

MBM live for the Storm tour was one of the weirdest, funkiest live electronic sets I’ve ever seen. Cthulhoid rubber suited dancers!

Why are there four Meat Beat Manifesto threads? FOUR!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trT6swsRUH8

Anyway. If I can make absolutely anything about Buck-Tick or Soft Ballet, I will. Fujii Maki and Imai Hisashi did a song with MBM and it's the best mid-90s 'The Internet Will Kill Us All' paranoid I've ever heard.

Been revisiting this song quite a bit lately for obivous reasons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXP6Q3UCP4E