Taking Sides: The Foo Fighters Vs The Inspiral Carpets

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The Foo Fighters are bollox, they have no good songs and Dave Grohl associates himself with Lemmy from Motorhead who denies the Holocaust happened and is therefore SCUM!

But The Inspiral Carpets have a handful of good tunes. Not many, but enough to win this war.

― CRW (CRW), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 14:51 (twenty-two years ago)

"everlong" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything the inspiral carpets ever did.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Calum vs. Aja: FITE!!!

― Super-Kate (kate), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

This is a contest between two of the most mediocre bands of all time.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

a handful of good tunes
Small hands.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

This is a Call > Saturn 5
For all the Cows > She comes from the fall
Dragging me down > Big Me

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

This 'Vs' has 'desperate Inspiral Carpets fan' written all over it.

― Buster (mokey), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

That's some pretty literal guilt by association there

― Sym (shmuel), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

(We're so holding this up until Aja gets here)

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Taking Sides: Beige Vs Ecru.

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

She Comes in the Fall, Move and This is How it Feels are all pretty good pop tunes IMO.

― CRW (CRW), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

If you're going to take a moral stance, what about all the skins of children they found in Tom Hingley's attic?

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I actually like the Foo Fighters' first album.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

The Foo Fighters have never released a single with MES on it, therefore the Inspirals win by default.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I think that story about children's skins is a fib.

― CRW (CRW), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

aja is in school where she belongs.

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I wouldn't be opposed to hearing a Grohl-covered version of "Two Worlds Collide."

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:30 (twenty-two years ago)

It's no more of a fib than your one about Lemmy's Holocaust denial

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

That ones true mate. See an interview he gave NME in the early 90s where he said that "you can fake pictures" and spoke about how difficult it would be for them to gas that many people. The full quote appeared in NME's "Big Mouth Strikes Back" book (February 1995).

― CRW (CRW), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't be the only Inspirals fan here.
IC >>> Foos

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

full quote about the Lemmy thing please. I've heard these rumors/accusations for years and have never seen anything concrete - his fascination with Nazi imagery is clear, but he shares that penchant with lots of people (including a number of well-known Jewish performers).

And you know, it WAS difficult for the Nazis to gas that many people. It required the most fucked up bureaucracy ever to get it done, that's what's so weird and scary about it...

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I lost that book some time ago, can anyone else help with Lemmy's truely despicable quote?

― CRW (CRW), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually Shakey there was a big controversy about this last year in Metal Maniacs - Lemmy's a big collector of WWII stuff, esp. Axis paraphernalias - has these huge iron crosses around his house, etc. The main Maniacs editor did the interview, and referred to Lemmy's nazi sympathizing - prompting letters from readers saying "I didn't see anything warranting your swipes at Lemmy, WWII is a valid hobby" etc., which prompted Mike G to reply that he'd edited out the more offensive parts of the interview e.g. where Lemmy waxed fannish on Hitler's "unshakeable deadly will." Mike editorialized: "As for me, I'm loads more impressed with Anne Frank's unshakeable will than Adolf's."

NB none of this should be construed as support for the Inspiral Carpets, who were dull as toast. The Foo Fighters are OK & better than OK at times, and Calum'd love 'em if he didn't have a bug up his ass about successful American bands.

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I have that book at home, I'll post the quote later tonight if nobody can find it before then ...

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

"Everlong" is such a great song.

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

hmm that controversy sounds familiar, J0hn. The thing about talking about this stuff is its all contextual - it sounds like the real issue here is differentiating morbid fascination from sympathy/respect. I mean, it seems fairly obvious to me that Hitler posessed "an unshakeable deadly will" or whatever (the fact that he pursued the Holocaust at the expense of many other fronts is well documented) - whether or not Lemmy considers that a trait worthy of emulation is really the question.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:28 (twenty-two years ago)

even so, using the "guilt by association" method to condemn Grohl for palling around with Lemmy is completely ridiculous. Lemmy's endeared himself to a lot of other musicians over the years, surely they aren't ALL nazis. Still, stupidity = par for the course with Calz I guess...

(plus I actually own an Inspiral Carpets album that I enjoy, and never cared at all about the Foo Fighters = Carpets win! Love those Hammond grooves.)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Guilt by association made me sell my ticket to Ash last year. You muck about with Robbie Williams and Chris Martin you don't get a penny of my money.

― CRW (CRW), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

In the long run, everyone's guilty by association Calum.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Lemmy tried to cop off with my sister. Failure ensued.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Guilt by association made me sell my ticket to Ash last year.

Yeah but C that's your problem, not something to be proud of - I'm an extremist too, but I'm working on it, not bragging about it

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I say the Carpets lose because Noel Gallagher was their guitar tech, plus the first foo album is really good.

― Magic City (ano ano), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

'Guilt by association made me sell my ticket to Ash last year. You muck about with Robbie Williams and Chris Martin you don't get a penny of my money.'

good old calum. starts a debate about a serious topic and then cheapens it with pathetic indie jibes.

― ..., Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Foo Fighters vs. the Inspiral Carpets is serious topic???

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

haha. more referring to the bit in his original post about lemmy and this:

'That ones true mate. See an interview he gave NME in the early 90s where he said that "you can fake pictures" and spoke about how difficult it would be for them to gas that many people. The full quote appeared in NME's "Big Mouth Strikes Back" book (February 1995).'

― ..., Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

From the horse's mouth, so to speak (I just googled "lemmy" "nazi")

http://www.stormbringerwebzine.co.uk/Interviews/MotorheadInterview.html

FWIW.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

thanks!
will read, back in a minute
(funny that this site is named "Stormbringer", after Michael Moorcock - who is Jewish and a good friend of Lemmy's).

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

"But I mean, I am really not in favor of Hitler."

That's cleared that up then.

― de, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, plus Moorcock is an old-school bakuninite anarchist, and is really very not in favour of right-wingers, (see essay "starship stormtroopers" etc)

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

that interview jibes with my general impression of Lemmy, and I can't say I was disappointed. His remarks about the Nazis and Hitler seem pretty on point to me.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree. He comes across as reasonably self-educated on the matter, and not some crazy lunatic.
But the NME quote was different ...

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha, nme in "selective quotation" shocker.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

The guys a dick and I find his comments offensive.

― CRW (CRW), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

They're such different bands, this question epitomizes the "apples/oranges" dilemna.

That said, the Inspiral Carpets never "rocked". The Foos have. Thus, the Foos win.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 28 April 2004 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Calum in minority of one shockah

― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 28 April 2004 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Moral outrage from Calum is like Mothra comdemning Godzilla.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 29 April 2004 00:35 (twenty-two years ago)

(We're so holding this up until Aja gets here)
-- mark grout (mark.grou...), April 28th, 2004 8:56 AM.

I of course WOULD say Foo Fighters, but I won't. I have never heard anything by the Inspiral Carpets, so I think it'd be unfair.

They're such different bands, this question epitomizes the "apples/oranges" dilemna.
That said, the Inspiral Carpets never "rocked". The Foos have. Thus, the Foos win.

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), April 28th, 2004 1:27 PM.

OMG, OMG, Thankyou!!!

I think Calum secretly DOES like me, and wants my attention.

― Aja (aja), Thursday, 29 April 2004 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)

"My Hero" is on the radio and I turned it on durring the second verse. I got half way through a swear word! Heheee! Sorry.

― Aja (aja), Thursday, 29 April 2004 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I remmeber the NME quote fine thanks; the fact he really should have kept his yap shut on the matter doesn't equate it to Holocaust denial. Would you like it if someone on here misrepresented your drivel in a similar way?

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 29 April 2004 08:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Inspirals really do have only a small child's handful of good songs. But they are really good songs.

Foo Fighters... can't say I'm too familiar with their work. Isn't that the drummer from Nirvana? Doesn't he only have one arm or something?
Sympathy vote then.

― Vasquesz, Thursday, 29 April 2004 08:08 (twenty-two years ago)

That's the one! There's that Bloodhand Gang song about him.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 29 April 2004 08:10 (twenty-two years ago)

What, "Wo Dave Grohl, he only have one arm"?

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 29 April 2004 08:15 (twenty-two years ago)

No.. "The return of the great white dope".

― Vasquesz, Thursday, 29 April 2004 08:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the Foos can be pretty great. The world would be a much poorer place without 'This Is A Call', 'Floaty', 'Exhausted', 'Aurora' and 'Generator'. Plus, great videos.

― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 29 April 2004 09:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Yo - The Foo Fighters suck. I'd like to see them come up with a tune as wonderfully catchy as "She Comes in the Fall". It's Jock rock, and Jock rock aint cool (unless you're a Jock).

― CRW (CRW), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:11 (twenty-two years ago)

"My Hero" = worst song the Foo Fighters ever came up with....but it's still light years better than, say, "This Is How it Feels", which makes me want to kick octagenarians in the neck with big steel toed boots.

The Foo Fighters "jock rock"? I wouldn't suggest as much (I'd sooner call Godsmack or Fuel or ________ [insert lame nu-metal band here]) of that tag. Moreover, Grohl has played with Scream and Killing Joke, so he's immediately absolved of any crimes. And he has love for Venom, so he drinks for free as far as I'm concerned.

Clint Boon enjoys the taste of his own semen. Or that's what I've heard, at any rate

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Are you a Jock then?

― CRW (CRW), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

'Everlong' is better than any Inspiral Carpets song but i've had a bit of an IC revival lately so would probably plump for them

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

He's as much of a Jock as Rod Stewart is

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Rod Stewart's a total jock

I, meanwhile, am not

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

But you like Jock rock??

― CRW (CRW), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Your definition of jock rock is rife with error

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Callum, considering your opposition to all things American, why do you use the term "Jock" in its American context, when it has a totally different meaning in the UK?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Alex is right here, Calum, and you are wrong.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

A capital J implies a Scottish person, you see. Alex is in NYC so more likely Irish

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 29 April 2004 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

It's Jock rock, and Jock rock aint cool (unless you're a Jock).

Eh, Calum, you're clueless. Fooo Fighters are utterly soppy, a crispy shell with a caramel centre. They're as much 'jock rock' as The Posies ever were (ie: not much).

― stevie (stevie), Thursday, 29 April 2004 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Opposition to all things American because I dislike American heavy rock bands?

I love most things American! I think the States could be my fave place to visit in the whole world for goodnessake!

― CRW (CRW), Thursday, 29 April 2004 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)

MY HERO is the Foo Fighter's attempt to out-retard REM's THIS ONE GOES OUT TO THE ONE I LOVE.

― Pinche Pendejo (Pinche Pendejo), Thursday, 29 April 2004 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Dad, you just don't like that song.

― Aja (aja), Friday, 30 April 2004 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

Another classik!

― Music Mick, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

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