Low: Classic or classic?

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Dan S, Saturday, 18 May 2019 01:59 (one year ago) link

xp. It really was. Eitzel was also in top form that night. He did a very wild acoustic guitar version of "The Boy With The Hammer in the Paper Bag" that was like 8 or 9 minutes long? Really great.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 18 May 2019 02:02 (one year ago) link

There aren't any bad Low records, really - some stand as front-to-back complete works that are genuinely hard to pick apart (Double Negative, Things We Lost in the Fire, Trust), and those (Invisible Way, Ones & Sixes, Secret Name) with some highs and some less-than-highs. The band seem to have a self-awareness of this too which makes their concerts never fail to deliver.

I always felt Invisible Way got its reputation unfairly at the time from not pushing too many boundaries - return to more often than I do C'mon.

matt h, Saturday, 18 May 2019 13:44 (one year ago) link

Agree that IW is maybe too maligned but I really love C’mon.

If you listen to Drums & Guns, then watch the documentary, then listen to C’mon... the documentary is so raw and you see Alan at such a low point. In the wake of that, I feel like C’mon is this beautiful attempt to return to the light. Mimi’s songs are so strong, Alan’s still raw but more hopeful.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 18 May 2019 16:08 (one year ago) link

huh I've always considered Secret Name one of their classics

Throw a dart, really.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 18 May 2019 17:33 (one year ago) link

you can’t go wrong with any Low album imo. Lost a bit in the discussion is how much of a classic their debut remains, and Long Division + The Curtain Hits the Cast are both absurdly good too.

omar little, Saturday, 18 May 2019 17:52 (one year ago) link

Most bands would be happy with those three as their peaks.

omar little, Saturday, 18 May 2019 17:53 (one year ago) link

C'mon was the one I was least impressed with when it came out but I listened to it the other day and I don't know what my problem was really

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 18 May 2019 19:44 (one year ago) link

I think The Curtain Hits the Cast is my favorite. It's the one that I return to the most.

but except for IW, any album is fine imo. (IW sounds like a Wilco record, other than a track or two is kind of useless to me tbh)

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 19 May 2019 21:28 (one year ago) link

one interesting thing is that i was obsessed with Low when I was around 19/20, had Lifetime and all the records, etc.... but then TGD came out and i HATED it. like couldn't believe how bad it was.

almost ten years passed by until i listened to it again, and i think that i was more than a little too attached to what i'd come to expect from them. now i think it rates higher than the rest of the records from that time period except D&G.

blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 19 May 2019 21:31 (one year ago) link

I started listening to them with Secret Name, an incredible album, but thought Things We Lost in the Fire was their peak. Then I was unexpectedly floored by The Great Destroyer. Now think Double Negative is their real peak

Dan S, Sunday, 19 May 2019 23:49 (one year ago) link

one interesting thing is that i was obsessed with Low when I was around 19/20, had Lifetime and all the records, etc.... but then TGD came out and i HATED it. like couldn't believe how bad it was.

almost ten years passed by until i listened to it again, and i think that i was more than a little too attached to what i'd come to expect from them. now i think it rates higher than the rest of the records from that time period except D&G.

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I had a similar experience. I went from being total obsessive completist--every 7", every comp appearance--to being lukewarm on Trust and really not into TGD. Wasn't swayed by D&G at first but came around to it. But altogether probably 8 years went by where I didn't listen to very much Low, they became relegated to a past version of myself. And somewhere between D&G and C'mon I dove back into the early stuff and gave the later albums a new try... now I'm back to being obsessive fan again.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 20 May 2019 16:37 (one year ago) link

the first time i saw them live was in 2002 and the opener tom liwa who used to be my favourite german songwriter announced them as the best band in the world and i thought he was exaggerating a little but finally i have come to the conclusion that he was probably right, for the last couple of years they have been my fave live band in the world. they have got the capability to create a spiritual atmosphere of total silence and attentiveness like few other bands. i have seen them four times but they never played the song which made me discover them though i asked for it once. their awesome cover of transmission.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 20 May 2019 21:35 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

For the curious, here's the Japanese bonus track for Double Negative, "It's All Been Done" (not a BNL cover)


Simon H., Wednesday, 19 June 2019 12:50 (one year ago) link

Listened to Drums and Guns next after the recommendations here, and wow. It's compelling in a very different way from Double Negative. Last three tracks in particular are stunning. At this point, I'm gonna eventually listen to all their albums but next up is Ones and Sixes because a) Spotify has it (some of the other Low albums are missing) and b) Brad's taste rarely steers wrong

Vinnie, Sunday, 30 June 2019 15:30 (one year ago) link

yesterdays glastonbury set for those who can access it:

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Sunday, 30 June 2019 17:25 (one year ago) link

shivers. low are extraordinary. amazing footage!

meaulnes, Monday, 1 July 2019 10:06 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Alan, Mimi and Steve Garrington doing a Velvet Underground tribute show on the 50th anniversary of the Velvets only Minneapolis show, October 12, 1969 at the Labor Temple:


by the light of the burning Citroën, Thursday, 15 August 2019 20:50 (eleven months ago) link

that sounds great. i wish i could go but 5000 miles or something like that seems a bit too much.

je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 15 August 2019 20:57 (eleven months ago) link

I might actually go to this! I'll be in Chicago around that time.

octobeard, Friday, 16 August 2019 06:07 (eleven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

got my ticket!

goole, Thursday, 5 September 2019 17:03 (eleven months ago) link

Should have linked this earlier -- very good podcast episode/radio documentary on them from a month back:


Ned Raggett, Thursday, 5 September 2019 18:21 (eleven months ago) link


fremmes with neppavenettes (rip van wanko), Thursday, 5 September 2019 18:49 (eleven months ago) link

haha the mentions of starfire in that podcast. that's neat. it put me back onto 'secret name'. low give me so much hope.

meaulnes, Friday, 6 September 2019 21:25 (eleven months ago) link

how have i not heard the bombscare EP until now! what!

meaulnes, Monday, 9 September 2019 10:50 (ten months ago) link

three weeks pass...

JUST IN: 'Bombscare EP' by Low & Spring Heel Jack

Low have just reissued their collaborative EP with left-field group Spring Heel Jack!

An underrated little record from the acclaimed slowcore group and their musical mates:@lowthebandhttps://t.co/ssGZJ2O6iD

— Norman Records (@normanrecords) October 3, 2019

Jeff W, Thursday, 3 October 2019 08:53 (ten months ago) link

haha, i must have summoned that. i'd better put the lottery on.

meaulnes, Thursday, 3 October 2019 09:56 (ten months ago) link

I believe soundslike summoned that one

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Thursday, 3 October 2019 14:14 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

The version of "Disarray" they played last night was like the best 10 minutes of live music I've ever heard.

geoffreyess, Sunday, 24 November 2019 17:17 (eight months ago) link

I normally couldn't care about live recordings of non-improvised music. But I'd really love a high-quality recording of a show on the tours since 'Double Negative,' because they've applied the same magic decaying angel choir sounds to older songs and they all sound amazing and genuinely distinct from earlier incarnations.

Also--so glad to see 'Bombscare' is back and has a chance to be recognized. That was what shifted my sense of Low from "lovely band who soothe my soul" to "this band can and will do anything, going forward" and cemented them as my favorite "rock" band going.

Soundslike, Monday, 25 November 2019 02:03 (eight months ago) link

There are a couple high quality concert videos of this material on YouTube.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 25 November 2019 02:09 (eight months ago) link

I listened to Secret Name for the first time a coupla months ago... think this might be the year I finally become a fanatical Low completist

handsome boy modelling software (bernard snowy), Monday, 25 November 2019 02:26 (eight months ago) link

I'm basically there too. I've listened to four of their albums now - The Great Destroyer and Ones and Sixes since my last post - and I feel like I'm 16 again: at that age, once I decided I loved a band, I listened to every second of every album attentively and obsessively. This decade, I've only given that level of attention to the 1975 and Low. To that end, I'm trying to go through their catalog slowly, but the urge is just to burn through everything. Crazy to think that I spent years seeing their name mentioned on ILM without bothering to listen

Vinnie, Monday, 25 November 2019 04:40 (eight months ago) link

when i saw them this summer they made a mind-blowing version of 'do you know how to waltz'.
a live recording of this tour would be amazing, indeed.

Nourry, Monday, 25 November 2019 14:37 (eight months ago) link

nothing from the last couple of Months here yet https://archive.org/search.php?query=collection%3ALowMusic&sort=-publicdate

StanM, Monday, 25 November 2019 15:14 (eight months ago) link

someone on this thread once challenged me for not playing low LPs all the way through, since i said i felt like some of their records wane a bit in the second half. but i came round. they were right. giving patience and open ears to low really lets you feel their full power. i think god speaks through their music quite a bit.

meaulnes, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 14:17 (eight months ago) link

nice of god to speak somewhere for once

has anyone ever tried to listen to drums and guns from a set of speakers that mirrors the mix, with one speaker on the far left of the room, the other on the far right? that's the one i've always been unable to get through. it sounds awful on headphones (to me at least), and the stereo separation on my normal set up just comes out sounding weird. i can imagine it sounding really good if the speakers were far enough apart that it was possible to walk around a bit in the combined sound field.

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:16 (eight months ago) link

It sounds great in the car

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 16:51 (eight months ago) link

'Drums & Guns' is top 3 Low for me, and I love the hard panning for its unsettling effect that suits the music.

Soundslike, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 21:32 (eight months ago) link


that's not my post, Thursday, 28 November 2019 02:21 (eight months ago) link

three months pass...

enjoying this cover


that's not my post, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 05:14 (four months ago) link

three weeks pass...

As per normal, we are coming in late like a northern Minnesota farmer. Mimi and Alan are probably doing an INSTAGRAM LIVE set for you tomorrow at around 1 or 2 central standard US. That should be evening for UK/Europe and middle of the night for Tokyo. More details to come. 💜

— LOW (@lowtheband) April 2, 2020

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Thursday, 2 April 2020 18:16 (four months ago) link

Oh my, yes. This, I need.

Soundslike, Friday, 3 April 2020 00:25 (four months ago) link

Confirmed time - and weekly performances!

(21:00 in UK today) pic.twitter.com/IeArsUQIlk

— LOW (@lowtheband) April 3, 2020

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Friday, 3 April 2020 07:52 (four months ago) link

I wonder if they will change things up at all, tonally. I love Low, but don't know if I want to love Low right now, necessarily.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 April 2020 12:48 (four months ago) link

it would be extremely funny if they chose this occasion to pivot to baggy funtime jams

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Friday, 3 April 2020 12:56 (four months ago) link

Well, I assume they will sound like Low. But I dunno, maybe different covers? And their banter is usually funny. Just wondering if it will be the usual hour of "we're all going to die."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 3 April 2020 13:30 (four months ago) link

if it's going to be weekly then there's plenty of scope

koogs, Friday, 3 April 2020 15:31 (four months ago) link

That was a lot of fun, really. New song, impromptu "Star Spangled Banner," "Murderer". Just good people.

Soundslike, Friday, 3 April 2020 21:29 (four months ago) link

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