― lukey (Lukey G), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 09:45 (twenty-two years ago)
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005YU95.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)
In any event, AVOID THIRD WAVE CALIFORNIAN NEO SKA AT ALL COSTS!
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:20 (twenty-two years ago)
Is it OK to admit that some of Operation Ivy's ska material was pretty good? Nonwithstanding the horrendous shit it spawned, I mean.
― mike a, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)
xpost - maybe i'm talking sense, just a bit?
― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mister Snrub (MisterSnrub), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)
Trojan box sets are good, and you could pick them up for about $15 here in the US.Justin Hinds -- Ska Uprising, first several songs are straight-up ska and then gradually the track selection mutates into rocksteady.Skatalites --- Foundation Ska, just what the title saysDon Drummond -- Best of, duplicates a few tracks from Foundation Ska but Don is such the man that it's still worth picking up.
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)
A sage piece of advice. I remember when that shit started getting popular I hated it because it was so peppy and cheerful and I was so angry and self-loathing/pitying.
"Is it OK to admit that some of Operation Ivy's ska material was pretty good? Nonwithstanding the horrendous shit it spawned, I mean."
Op Ivy was cool. I liked and still like them. The bands they influenced, however...
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― serge, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000630XU/ref=sr_aps_music_1_1/026-5397279-9938866
It's better sound quality than the cheap n cheerful 3D boxes, but not as much music obv. It does a good job of chronicling the rise of ska outta mento/calypso and Ja R&B through to the morph into rocksteady in 66-ish.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)
also for something completely ridiculous: Longsy D. late 80's ska mixed with acid house = skacid.
― mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)
who cares if they were like 12th generation?
the point was candy everywhere!
"my boy lollipop" by millie small. i love that tune.m.
― msp, Thursday, 13 May 2004 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 13 May 2004 04:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 13 May 2004 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 13 May 2004 04:04 (twenty-two years ago)
For slsk:
Lord Tanamo - "I'm in the mood for love"Beverlys and the Maytals - "Walk with love"The Charms - "Carry go bring come"Toots and the Maytals - "4664 was my number"Baba Brooks - "Seven guns alive"Beverly All Stars - "The monster"Ethiopians - "Owe me no pay me"
I'm never quite sure what's technically ska vs rocksteady vs early reggae, but this is all stuff I like from that period...
― Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 13 May 2004 06:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― night passage, Thursday, 13 May 2004 07:24 (twenty-two years ago)
Ska = faster tempo (one-a, two-a) + usually plenty of brass. Died out c.66
**I'm never quite sure what's technically ska vs rocksteady vs early reggae**
Rocksteady = the third beat is accentuated ('one-drop') often with the kick drum and the tempo is slower. Less horns.
Early Reggae = double beat on the 1 or 3, often a guitar or organ.
This is all approximate!
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 13 May 2004 07:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 13 May 2004 08:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 13 May 2004 08:12 (twenty-two years ago)
Here are some that were mentioned on the other thread or that I think are good:
Loch Ness Monster (Trojan)A rerelease of an early skinhead comp. Lots of Lee Perry-style keyboard instrumentals plus some pretty good songs. Some very odd themes on this one: a song about a baby that wants to have sex with its own mother; one about a Chinese king who wants to have sex with a Jamaican girl and about 7 songs about vampires. All good rollicking stuff, maybe a bit much to take in in one sitting though.
Dancehall 69More skinhead ska. Slightly more melodic than the grinding Loch Ness comp. This has some classics such as "The Conqueror", "When The Saints Go Marching In" and "The Liquidator". Weighing in as a double comp it can get a bit sprawling, especially since about 75% of the tracks are instrumentals.
Lee Scratch Perry - The UpsetterA really good early Lee Perry album. Again, lots of insrumentals but the vocal tracks alone are worth the money. Busty Brown's version of "To Love Somebody" is great, but even better are the two tracks by the Silvertones which are probably two of my favourite reggae songs.
One Step BeyondComprised of two CDs. CD1 covers the original ska greats. They're all on here, Lord Tanamo, Millie, The Cats, Symarip plus loads more. I've been really enjoying this one and it's fantastic for a summer party. CD2 I haven't heard yet but it delves into the whole 2Tone revival (i.e. the mighty Specials, Madness, Selector, Judge Dread), again it all looks good.
You could do no worse than go for the Best of Tighten Up comp though. Honestly the best thing I've bought in several years. Not necessarily all ska, but if you want a primer on the best reggae to be released in Britain and Jamiaca in the late 60s and early 70s, look no further. It really is amazing.
― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 13 May 2004 08:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 09:50 (twenty-two years ago)
Oh go fuck yerself, Alex. Listen, I've heard fuckin' Prince Buster and Desmond Dekker and Lyn Taite and the Comets and all that stuff, and as great as it is, I simply prefer the Specials. Sorry.
GO FOR THAT NEW KILLING JOKE SONG THAT SOUNDS LIKE DICKY BARRETT
Oh chortle. How wildy original of you.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 May 2004 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)
Also, the thing that got me interested was an old Desmond Dekker album that I've had for years, that my dad had for some reason. That was followed by a very good post-66 Toots and The Maytals best of ('20 Massive Hits'). And ain't that song called '54-46 That's My Number' not '4664'?
N.B. Toots is touring Europe at the moment - http://www.tootsandthemaytals.net/toots/tourdates.aspx
― Jim Cassius (J.Cassius), Thursday, 13 May 2004 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)