most influential artists that aren't often namechecked as such

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New Edition (begat a bunch of offshoots and solo careers, plus every boy band from NKOTB onward and every male R&B vocal group from Boyz II Men onward)

Faith No More (where do I start?)

Jon Spencer Blues Explosion (have a bigger role in the current retro/blues/garage thing than anyone's willing to admit)

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 10:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Swamp dogg

Apart from the obvious name check from snoop, I'd like to think he was a massive influence on people like george clinton and dre... dunno if he was tho.

― oats (oats), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Master P, for proving that the south could shift units

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 10:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Queen

King Diamond

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 10:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Korn

― Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Bob Mould.

― hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)

stockholm monsters

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)

who's responsible for more bad music: Ministry or Faith No More?

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 10:50 (twenty-two years ago)

almost certainly ministry

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 10:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Led fucking Zepplin. They were the first to assemble rather than play on a record. Their influence is so far reaching that it is the woods and we cant see it for the trees.

― lukey (Lukey G), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Ministry made one truly brilliant album and the rest can rot. Faith No More however = teh classic.

― dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:03 (twenty-two years ago)

kool kieth-just ask the Outcast (I can feel the hate building in you now)

― lukey (Lukey G), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:06 (twenty-two years ago)

actually, ha ha, i phrased that wrong! What I meant to say was: Who is responsible for "inspiring" more bad music:Ministry or Faith No More?

Still Ministry, ya think?

Just remember: Faith No More helped create Nu-Metal.

(But Ministry had a hand in it too.)

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:06 (twenty-two years ago)

ministry are part-responsible for industrial = they lose bigtime

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

New Edition = The Jackson 5 of the early 80s

― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

plus, Nine Inch Nails wouldn't have been Nine Inch Nails without Ministry, so everyone inspired by NIN....well, you can blame Ministry for them too.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)

the bangles are very influential

― the 'surface' 'noise' (electricsound), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Huggy Bear / Nation of Ulysses / Bikini Kill

― hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Amy Grant! First huge contemporary-Christian-gone-secular sellout, and helped turn the CCM genre into the thriving cottage industry it is today.

― dr. phil (josh langhoff), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 11:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Rage Against The Machine trumps both Ministry and FNM in terms of bad inspiration. True, there would be no Rage without FNM, but The Roach really took it to another level and birthed the whole rap/metal thing more than FNM, Ice-T, or that horrible soundtrack with the guys driving around the wrong neighborhood in a bus (what was that movie?).

― js, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

judgement night?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

YOU'RE JUST ANOTHER VICTIM KID (just another victim)

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Right- Judgement Night. And after The Roach talked all that Free the Native American shit, he goes and does the cover of VANITY FAIR! Hilarious.

― js, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Slint and Pavement pretty much inspired the lion's share of US indy bands circa 93-95.

― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:01 (twenty-two years ago)

NIN + MINISTRY + ALICE IN CHAINS + RAGE + FAITH NO MORE = NU METAL.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

- ANY TALENT THOSE BANDS MIGHT HAVE HAD.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

XPOST

not that the idea of "Free the Native American" is shit, mind you

― js, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Here's a potentially contentious one : what about Depeche Mode? Some people brush them aside as 80's synth-pop fops (which they were, but I'm talking about exclusively), but they were a huge influence on Detroit techno, and they showed that an "electronic" band could be an arena-sized success years before the mainstream media believed it was possible (or gave them any respect for doing so).

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Depeche Mode a huge influence on Detroit techno? Hmmm....

― js, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

They've been given the props! Plus the other major North England synth groups.

― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Not questioning DM's influence, just thinking that they're a strong candidate to win the thread. Everyone always mentions New Order (and JD, for that matter), but DM was right there at the same time, too....

― js, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

yes and no... seems like they have (along with human league et al) within hipster-electro circles, but not within a wider context.

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― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:39 (twenty-two years ago)

DM were vastly popular in the states, especially in the suburbs. See the "101" doc for stadium proof. You can see their influence on NuMetal in the goth/boy band touches like spiked, dyed, gelled hair and faux faggy appearance.

― sexyDancer, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

DM influemced NIN, so they inadvertantly influenced Nu-metal.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm really just talking out my ass, mind you, but...

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

depeche mode to slipknot in 3 easy steps

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

damnit xpost!

depeche mode + nu-metal + new edition = linkin park

― christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Would I be right in thinking that The Television Personalities weere the pre-cursors of Twee and the early Creation Records sound?

― holojames (holojames), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm pretty sure DM etc have been namechecked by Bambaataa, Atkins etc (this is from last year's discopunk issue of Muzik).

― Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I give new order props for fusing rock and dance. Dont know what the critic-erati sayeth..

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

"depeche mode + nu-metal + new edition = linkin park"

OTM.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Killing Joke

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I bet at least one ILM regular is going to agree with me too!

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

That new Killing Joke is killing me. Best hardcore record since ... um, the Bad Brains.

― sexyDANCErrr, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Bill Haley and His Comets

― Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I totally agree w/r/t Killing Joke, but I'm having a hard time connecting KJ to something actually GOOD today within three steps. A little help?

PS Is the new KJ really that good? I heard the first two tracks and didn't get it at all....

― js, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Roxy Music.

I know what you're saying, they're huge, they're critically acclaimed blah blah.

But really, they're still simply not that well known in america and their impact through the music of the 70s and 80s...punk, artpunk, post-punk, new wave, new romantic, adult contemporary, etc etc, I rank them just below The Beatles and the Velvet Underground, and I don't think they get the kind of attention they deserve. Certainly not anywhere near the Beatles or the Velvets.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

And as far as Depeche Mode's influence on techno...it was there but I don't think you can single them out, as Lauren mentioned. The genesis of techno in early/mid 80s midwest america would've grouped them with dozens of others, primarily New Order, Human League, Yaz etc, while the influence of electronic artists within dance music may have been just as essential, so Klein + MBO and Freeze and Kraftwerk etc all impacted techno as much or more then Depeche Mode.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Jim Foetus

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:51 (twenty-two years ago)

six finger satellite (providence, RI noise)
boredoms (organic neo-spiritual tribal psychedelia)
the gories (detroit garage phenomena)
dinosaur jr (the creator of shoegaze guitar? even kevin shields worships the man)

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

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I think the Cabs are name-checked a lot though for their service to mankind.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, see any decent record store in the last 6 months of their latest revival.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Simon Reynolds probably devoted half of his new book to them.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Killing Joke influenced the Rapture pretty directly. Check out the song "Killing".

The Cabs love I think is a relatively recent thing. I know through most of my high school and college years they were either thought of as a weird unlistenable noise industrial band or dated sample-filled industrial dance band, which I suppose really depended on which record you had. I don't think people were even registering the existance of stuff like Sweet Exorcist or their working with Marshall Jefferson and such, and if they did, it was industrial kids citing it as a sellout.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)

New contender for the title:

Silver Apples

Major influence in many directions. Almost never name checked....

― js, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Silver Apples had a HUGE revival ca. 1995. Massive zine coverage/interviews, even a tribute record, namedropped for the good part of the year. The Folk Implosion sampled them and wrote a song whose lyrics were almost entirely song titles from the Silver Apples catalog: "nothing's gonna stop the flow" (a song that's aged really well imho).

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 22:47 (twenty-two years ago)

selzer, isn't killing a PiL ripoff?

― cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I was living in London in '95. Did the Silver Apples revival take place primarily in the states? I totally missed it. Didn't even know there was a tribute album. But I'd still say they hardly get referenced in many places they should....

"Killing"s bassline is a direct rip from one of the Metal Box tracks, but I'm blanking on which one...

― js, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I always remember the cabs being lauded as far back as i can remember. But I'm off of Ministry. My final answer: Controlled Bleeding. Thay never get any props.

I just know that there is an industrial s&m porn metal gregorian chant dub ambient noise band out there that owes them a debt of gratitude.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Echoes is the big PiL rip-off. Killing has the same exact rhythm as a song on the first Killing Joke album, whose name I forget. The song is also called "Killing", and it's probably not a coincedence.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:06 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe when I was a teenager and in college I wasn't exposed to any huge Cabs acclaim/interest. Maybe they were critically acclaimed, but not largely accepted by anybody I knew, not even by people who were otherwise into Skinny Puppy and Ministry, or Rough Trade or House music.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Shut Up and Dance (and their labelmates) provided the template for basically the next fifteen years of british dance music. They need to be namechecked more (but I guess they are some) and this stuff needs to be reissued to boot :(

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Gary Numan/Tubeway Army.

P.S Ministry are SHITE. Cowboys with a drum machine. NIN also shite.

― slopsymbolic, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)

A SUAD reissue would be cool, but have those samples been cleared yet? :)

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:18 (twenty-two years ago)

P.S Ministry are SHITE. Cowboys with a drum machine. NIN also shite.

this doesn't matter for the purposes of this thread. and they weren't always cowboys.

― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

"A SUAD reissue would be cool, but have those samples been cleared yet? :)"

I doubt anyone would really care at this point (esp. given how many copies they would sell.) The first Nicolette record seems to have escaped any notice.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

gygax! is on fire otm on this thread.
the "killing"/killing joke theory is interesting but accidental.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

My vote is for Heart.
Without them, no riot grrlz,
no Nirvana/grunge.

― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

"A SUAD reissue would be cool, but have those samples been cleared yet? :)"
I doubt anyone would really care at this point (esp. given how many copies they would sell
But how many copies would they have sold in 1992?
They brought it on themselves, but they were sued by so many people I think I started feeling sorry for them.
Good point about the Nicolette album, though. It's strange that it did escape without notice even though it was only a few years after the SUAD lawsuits. And it's not like the Nicolette record wasn't hyped or noticed at the time.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"But how many copies would they have sold in 1992?"

They had a #2 single in 1992!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)

They did? Sorry, short memory on my part.
That's "I'm Raving, I'm Raving", I assume.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes. It got pulled before it could reach #1.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)

The Monochrone Set, I guess, or maybe Scott Walker, though Mr. Walker has come to enjoy far more namedropping ever since he produced that last Pulp album.

― Atnevon (Atnevon), Thursday, 13 May 2004 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott Walker has got to be one of the MOST name-checked influences ever. Jesus people were comparing Bryan Ferry and David Bowie to him 30 years ago (not to mention the Tindersticks and every post-punk crooner and their aunt Lilian.)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 13 May 2004 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, who's next, Big Star!?

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 13 May 2004 00:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahaha man, the Velvets really don't get their due.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 13 May 2004 00:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Did the Silver Apples revival take place primarily in the states? I totally missed it. Didn't even know there was a tribute album. But I'd still say they hardly get referenced in many places they should.

I thought the SA revival was in Europe, with the German bootleg of both of their albums in 1994, and the tribute album was mostly European acts (as well as possibly in the title to Laika's debut, which owes more to them then Subotnik), wasn't it? For what it's worth, Steve Albini mentioned them as an influence in a Big Black interview I once read (and check out his oscillator playing on Pigface's Gub).

― Vic Funk, Thursday, 13 May 2004 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)

not even by people who were otherwise into Skinny Puppy and Ministry, or Rough Trade or House music.

you should have been in chicago back in the 80s then, dan - my friends and i were into all of the above and i don't think we were the minority. sensoria was a big club track.

and for the record, the cabs did a collab with ministry called acid horse - no name no slogan was the tune. i think ptp (also on waxtrax!) had cabs involvement

― tricky disco, Thursday, 13 May 2004 01:06 (twenty-two years ago)

shit, how could i forget don't argue? probably cabaret voltaire's
biggest "hit"...

― tricky disco, Thursday, 13 May 2004 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I still stand by my reckoning that after the heyday of their "hits", the period when I was getting exposed, in HS and college, 88-97 or whatever, they didn't get much love. I'd imagine Chicago would be one place, where they'd be remembered, considering how much of the Wax Trax acts draw from them directly or indirectly.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 13 May 2004 06:49 (twenty-two years ago)

D Train
Francois Kevorkian

For obvious reasons... Just passed over in favour of the more well-known people like Tom Moulton, Walter Gibbons, Larry Levan, Arthur Russell et al...

Also: Masters at Work not commonly talked about as an "influential" artist, but without them there would have been no deep house, no french house, no daft punk etc. etc.

― Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 13 May 2004 08:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Family connections to her Dad and Rodney Crowell may have overshadowed her due props, but I think Roseanne Cash had a significant influence on the three major trends in country music in the last 20 years: pop-country, alt-country and "new traditionalist" retro-country.

Old Nashville was still in full effect and country radio was sounding pretty tired when she showed up on the scene in the late 70s with fresh-sounding production and cool songs that weren't "outlaw" or "urban cowboy". She showed a different way to go before even Reba McEntire was having much of an impact, and John Anderson, Ricky Skaggs and Randy Travis weren't having hits yet. Without her foot in the door, it's hard to imagine artists like Garth, Shania, kd lang or the Dixie Chicks blowing up large in the 90s. Not to mention singer-songwriterish gals like Shelby Lynne and Cheryl Wheeler, who owe a more direct debt. And Neko Case, Lambchop and that whole crowd, too, along with the sad, schoolmarmish kind of alt-country that Chuck Eddy dislikes.

A lot of these artists may not be necessarily adored hereabouts, but Cash's "influence" seems pretty far-flung and under-mentioned to me.

― briania, Thursday, 13 May 2004 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

OTM about Bikini Kill et al. There's a direct line between Revolution Girl Style Now, to Live Through This (loath as Courtney would be to admit it), to Alanis Morrissette, to Meredith Brooks' "Bitch," to the Spice Girls, to Avril Lavigne. I'm not saying that it's a GOOD direct line, but...

― mike a, Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

If you kept following that line, wouldn't you end up with The Slits?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

the pernicious and silly term "influence"

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Stewart - yeah, backwards you get Penetration, and the Raincoats and X-Ray Spex and the Runaways. I'm thinking more in terms of US influence; the early '90s riot grrls were ALL OVER the media within a year after forming.

― mike a, Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Fishbone, besides being the group that was to shitty third-wave ska bands what Faith No More were to shitty nu-metal bands, they have also often been cited as influences by members of genre-hopping charters like Sublime, 311, No Doubt, Incubus, etc.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

On this thread, most influencers > influencees. In which cases has it been the other way around?

― briania, Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Bikini Kill never had any reggae in 'em, so I think the Slits influence is minimal.
xxxxpost

― sexyDancer, Thursday, 13 May 2004 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Micky Finn
Ray Keith
DJ Krust
Caspar Pound
Meat Beat Manifesto
Martin Price

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

The Ramones. Their influecne is all over the place in music. So much so, that I think people forget where it started.

Jane's Addiction. they were the ones who were responsible for the downfall of 80's metal and the alterna-explosion that followed before we even knew who kurt cobain was.

Hanoi Rocks: For better or for worse they opened the door to 80's glam rock and watched as everyone walked through. They were so much better than every other 80's metal band.

― cw28 (cw28), Thursday, 13 May 2004 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

completely agree about caspar pound...a friend of mine just told me that he passed away recently. very sad..

― tricky disco, Thursday, 13 May 2004 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Buzzcocks. Incalculable influence on/practically invented indie, melodic hardcore, pop-punk/punk-pop, and Doing It Yourself. But often relegated to a footnote in punk (let alone music) history.

Led fucking Zepplin. They were the first to assemble rather than play on a record. Their influence is so far reaching that it is the woods and we cant see it for the trees.

Would this be the same Led Zeppelin that is name-checked by every guitarist ever?

― Ben Dot (1977), Thursday, 13 May 2004 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

not to be too anal, but while the Buzzcocks sorta did it themselves, with Ludus Linder and Richard Boone helping, they immediately did it for the major labels that would pay them. It's the Desperate Bicycles who deserve credit for kick-starting the Do It Yourself idea as an ends in itself, not just a means to an end(i.e., getting signed.)

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 13 May 2004 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think anyone's taken me up on Amy Grant, so consider...

For the '80s, she was, along with Michael W. Smith (her Timbaland) and Stryper (her Stryper), the face of Contemporary Christian Music. She sold records, she won Grammys, and the genre grew to a viable, self-sufficient size. Under her reign, Christian records began to spend more money and sound better. (Michael had Eddie Martinez on one of his albums!) They began to grow closer to their secular counterparts.

When these three "went secular" in '90-91, it was a pretty big deal in Christian circles. Stryper's album was good but produced no hits, Michael had hits but stayed Christian, but Amy totally sold out and was HUGE. <Heart In Motion> had 5 hits, was nominated for album and production Grammys, and really pissed off my aunt (along with a lot of other hardcore Christians).

What she (and the others, to a lesser extent) did was showed Christian music how to be big, and showed hardcore Christian fans that it was OK to like secular music. (Maybe a more apt comparison is Amy as Dylan to Michael's Joan Baez.) Here in the suburbs, the Christian radio stations are popular and the Christian CD sections are big. Also popular are Creed, POD, and Evanescence. Amy affected the music industry so that DC Talk, Jars of Clay, Kirk Franklin, and Kathy Trocolli could have actual, non-ghettoized hits. And there are lots of little Christian (or non) punks running around who probably grew up with Amy Grant playing in their living rooms.

Here's my excessive claim: Among suburban kids, the two most influential albums of the past 15 years, non-rap-related, are <Nevermind> and <Heart In Motion>.

― dr. phil (josh langhoff), Thursday, 13 May 2004 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

And while I'm on the Christian shit...

Soundgarden have long credited King's X's Ty Tabor with inspiring them to use "drop D" tuning.

In Rolling Stone's Greatest Guitarists issue, Kim Thayil's use of "drop D" tuning was credited with inspiring all the other grunge bands to do the same.

Therefore... King's X grandsired Grunge!

― dr. phil (josh langhoff), Thursday, 13 May 2004 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

"Bikini Kill never had any reggae in 'em, so I think the Slits influence is minimal."

You might be forgiven for thinking otherwise if all you've heard is "Cut", but there was a hell of a lot more to The Slits than just the reggae influences.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 13 May 2004 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Arthur Baker

― Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Thursday, 13 May 2004 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Modern Lovers
Feelies
and, as Stew noted, KILLING JOKE

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 13 May 2004 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)

John Prine

― Doobie Keebler (Charles McCain), Thursday, 13 May 2004 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

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