What else of theirs is good and what isn't?
― Venga, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sean, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Douglas, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― sundar subramanian, Monday, 5 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― David Gunnip, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― RickyT, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sean, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― James Kyllo, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― mark s, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Andrew L, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― g, Wednesday, 7 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Rob M, Thursday, 8 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I got the 'word and the flesh' alb? Released before loveless, I wonder if K.Shields just blatantly ripped it off.
After hearing the record again this morning I must declare that it is one of the best rock albums I've heard in the 1990s (or any toher decade). Those riffs burn, man. the lyrics are a wonderful 'this means nothing' and are sung beautifully in morose kinda style. Ends really well with a cover of Chatham's guitar trio.
Despite the cover similarities the only other thing in common with MBV is their greatness. You can't compare the sound as band of susans had this minimal guitar sound riffage. It's an all new brand of rawk riffage.
Susan Stenger is indeed lovely looking, which is nice.
Have to find the compilation wired for sound. Has anybody got any thoughts on the Peel sessions disk?
― Julio Desouza, Monday, 24 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
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― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 25 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
I love the guitar sound, how the guitars just dissolve into each other, very beautiful.
Do you know if wired for sound is still available?
― Rob M, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Julio Desouza, Thursday, 27 June 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Aaron W (Aaron W), Thursday, 12 August 2004 03:37 (twenty years ago) link
Still convinced that "Here Comes Success" is their best album by a long shot, but who knows what the future may bring.
― dlp9001 (dlp9001), Sunday, 4 February 2007 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― dlp9001 (dlp9001), Sunday, 4 February 2007 03:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Sunday, 4 February 2007 04:34 (seventeen years ago) link
― dlp9001 (dlp9001), Sunday, 4 February 2007 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Sunday, 4 February 2007 05:13 (seventeen years ago) link
An exhibition of Niblock's films will be shown till early March.
― xyzzzz__ (jdesouza), Sunday, 4 February 2007 13:16 (seventeen years ago) link
R. Poss goes on at length about not being influenced by Branca, and my appreciation of the band definitely went up when I ditched the Sonic Youth comparisons: they're really doing very different things.
― dlp9001 (dlp9001), Sunday, 4 February 2007 14:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Phil Knight (PhilK), Sunday, 4 February 2007 19:04 (seventeen years ago) link
Hmmm, bunch of their stuff now on Spotify (hadn't noticed that before). Including bonus tracks (radio edits) on Here Comes Success, and I can't figure out where they came from...
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 03:06 (eleven years ago) link
This popped up on Robert Poss' FB feed today:
"I have just received the digitalized version of part of my cassette archive, transferred by Jeff Keibel. (Thanks, Jeff !) This includes live stuff, my original Band Of Susans demos and alternate mixes, basic tracks, and other ephemera. Much to be gone through, and some pitch/speed adjustments to be made for sure."
He's thrown a couple of things up on Soundcloud already.
https://soundcloud.com/robert-poss
― MaresNest, Monday, 22 June 2015 17:22 (nine years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=161&v=FUxtK-utV8Y
― MaresNest, Saturday, 22 August 2015 22:50 (nine years ago) link
I find it baffling how under the radar they have become.
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 23 August 2015 01:52 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s2f1gJvhus
― ringworm, Sunday, 23 August 2015 06:59 (nine years ago) link
i confused this band with the infinitely more boring Sky Cries Mary forever.
― akm, Thursday, 13 October 2016 05:40 (seven years ago) link
But SCM has that cool Elephant song or whatever it's called.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 14 October 2016 01:31 (seven years ago) link
Had the vaguest of awareness of this band back in the 90s but apparently I’ve never heard them until now. Liking what I’m hearing so far.
Does anyone know, are the versions of “Hope Against Hope” and “You Were an Optimist” that appear on the debut album the same versions that we’re on the Blessing and Curse EP?
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link
AFAIK the version of “Hope Against Hope” on the first album was (just) a different mix but the version of “You Were an Optimist” was a brand new recording for HAH
― Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link
They are identical as far as I can tell.
― everything, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link
The Peel Session version of Hope Against Hope is the best one.
― everything, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:29 (three years ago) link
Unmentioned on this thread (and my only context for them) is that they were "the first band on the Internet," or at least positioned themselves that way -- I remember they were active on one of the pre-WWW online services in the early '90s.
― babe for the weekend (morrisp), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link
Just looking at the album notes and it says that the album was recorded at Platinum Island, NY except Hope Against Hope which was remixed there. The EP was recorded at Caliope Productions. So perhaps Master of Treacle is correct. They sound the same though.
― everything, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:44 (three years ago) link
xpost Might be a running tie between them and Poster Children, and I'm sure there are others.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link
I think Master of Treacle is correct - the EP version of You Were An Optimist is 15 seconds longer than the album version, but Hope Against Hope is about the same length on both releases.
― CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 19:28 (three years ago) link
I remember I met Page Hamilton as a member of them before he went solo. Or formed a new band like. They were on the Blast First package I first hitched following. Alongside Rapeman and Dinosaur Jr. Have meant to pick up the 2cd anthology for ages. Had the lp with Hope Against Hope at the time.Did love the bits where the only dynamic instrument was the drums cos everything else was laying down layers of drone.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 10 February 2021 07:32 (three years ago) link
Been revisiting these albums recently, I was always a little lukewarm on them but everything is sounding great to me now, esp the last string of records from The Word and the Flesh on are all kind of a miracle
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 29 August 2024 13:26 (two weeks ago) link
Should say at this point that years back Robert Poss and I became FB friends — he’s got a good presence on there, one of many musicians from the very broad time and place still engaged with things as they are while sharing tons of interesting memories and clips and things.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 August 2024 14:08 (two weeks ago) link
Posting this again coz I love it
― ringworm, Thursday, 29 August 2024 15:10 (two weeks ago) link
Was listening to Peel Sessions just now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rCxIyxywpA
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 29 August 2024 15:13 (two weeks ago) link