HOLY SHIT! Simon Reynolds has some explaining to do

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From the following:
http://www.zerecords.com/releases/release.php?id=5&id_artist=19

"Lizzy Mercier Descloux has a cute-worth-picking-up debut album called Press Color on ZE records. Ms. L.M.D's brand of fake adventure has nothing to do with post-jazz; it's post-rock, sounding like a hot-cool dance dand with bubblegum-hit-potential ans a certain dept to theContortions."
-- Glenn O'Brien : Andy Wharol's Interview : March 1980

― frankE (frankE), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I was hoping this was going to about him voicing his support for George W. Bush.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:07 (twenty-two years ago)

well, there's that too...

― frankE (frankE), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:08 (twenty-two years ago)

As I type, Simon Reynolds is on stage at some hoity-toity with Christgau and Powers, etc. lapping in the attention that coining a genre name garners and Glenn O'Brien is whoring himself in some back alley barely making ends meet. It's SICK.

― frankE (frankE), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Glenn O'Brien's life sounds better to me.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:13 (twenty-two years ago)

it's been around forever:

http://www.rushcounty.org/PostRockMuseum/

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Glenn O'Brien deserves his "wicked life."

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Muilenburg, Grace and Ada Swineford. Land Of The Post Rock. Its Origins, History, and People. Lawrence: University Press of
Kansas, 1975.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Simon's a conservative?

I think for anyone who's been credited with creating something, it's possible to go back and find some older roots.

― Maxwell von Bismarck (maxwell von bismarck), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I HAVE SEEN NO EVIDENCE OF SIMON REYNOLDS VOICING HIS SUPPORT FOR GEORGE W. BUSH, NOR DO I EXPECT TO.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm trying to remember the umm... less successful genre names that SR has come up with over the years.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Neurofunk!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

NEUROFUNK WILL NEVER DIE, HATERS!

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

In "post-rock," the accent is on the second word; in "Post Rock," the accent is on the first.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Unfortunately for Simon progressive house really does seem to have stuck.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

But seriously:

Title: Gulcher: Post-Rock Cultural Pluralism in America (1649-1980).
Author: MELTZER, Richard.

― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Title: Gulcher: Post-Rock Cultural Pluralism in America (1649-1980).
Author: MELTZER, Richard.

Exactly. So we have O'Brien doing god knows what (a fashion column in Paper, I think) and Meltzer writing rambling incomprehensible articles about his mom. Meanwhile, as I alluded to earlier, Reynolds lives it up!! Outrageous.

― frankE (frankE), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Post-rock is used to describe Pere Ubu from an Australian book from 1980 by Glenn A. Baker and some other guy on 'The New Music'

― Sasha (sgh), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:48 (twenty-two years ago)

As I type, Simon Reynolds is on stage at some hoity-toity with Christgau and Powers

furck! that was tonight?

― Paul (scifisoul), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh no! Glenn Baker! OH NO!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:51 (twenty-two years ago)

glenn a baker IS the australian reynolds

― mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 14 May 2004 00:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Glenn Baker is everything that is wrong with musicology

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 May 2004 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)

He's on the new Prince album?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 14 May 2004 01:13 (twenty-two years ago)

yes tim, agreed. although the gospel comp (straight street i think) he put together is rather wonderful

― mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 14 May 2004 01:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Wokka Wokka

x-post

― C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Friday, 14 May 2004 01:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Glenn A Baker wears nice hats

― mentalist (mentalist), Friday, 14 May 2004 04:47 (twenty-two years ago)

who is Glenn Baker and why is he the worst musicologist evah? the people want to know!

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Friday, 14 May 2004 06:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Isn't Glenn O'Brien the Style Guy for GQ?

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 14 May 2004 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)

There are magazines about things besides music, people.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 14 May 2004 06:16 (twenty-two years ago)

haha no shit!

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Friday, 14 May 2004 06:24 (twenty-two years ago)

if glenn o'brien wanted to luxuriate in post-rock profits he should have copyrighted the term innit.

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 06:34 (twenty-two years ago)

my fave reynolds genre invention will always be 'arsequake'. it's always the section i head for first in a record shop.....

― stirmonster, Friday, 14 May 2004 07:26 (twenty-two years ago)

i always thought arsequake was a better name for the genre than grunge.

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 07:40 (twenty-two years ago)

well, obviously...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:40 (twenty-two years ago)

but reynolds is a fule for not yet having taken out copyright on the SIMON REYNOLDS ROASTER!

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 08:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that like the George Foreman Grill then?

― noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:44 (twenty-two years ago)

what about the marcello carlin inflatable companion?

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:45 (twenty-two years ago)

what makes you think i need one?

especially when i can enjoy a hearty and healthy breakfast with my TOM EWING TOASTER!

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 08:57 (twenty-two years ago)

no, you silly man. the inflatable companions are for ladies, not for you. unless, of course, you really want to have breakfast with a rubber version of yourself. this idea will make me millions as it is my experience that women cannot resisit music journalists.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 14 May 2004 09:02 (twenty-two years ago)

oh i see.

i rather doubt that the MARCELLO CARLIN INFLATABLE COMPANION would be a moneyspinner.

put one hand on it and it will immediately yell DON'T TRY IT

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 09:10 (twenty-two years ago)

The Marcello Carlin Infaltable Curmudgeon on the other hand has distinct commercial potential

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 May 2004 09:11 (twenty-two years ago)

...especially if it's Infaltable as opposed to Inflatable

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 May 2004 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)

or even infallible.

Whatever you call it:
DON'T BUY IT

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)

*the australian contingent is shocked glenn a baker is unknown to matos*

― mullygrubber (gaz), Friday, 14 May 2004 09:15 (twenty-two years ago)

the Rolls Royce of the range will be the inflatable petridis

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 14 May 2004 09:16 (twenty-two years ago)

already inflated by its own sense of self-importance...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 14 May 2004 09:16 (twenty-two years ago)

That sounds peculiarly obscene

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 May 2004 09:16 (twenty-two years ago)

marcello you'll need a footpump for, or to take him down to your local garage.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 14 May 2004 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)

For some reason that joke about "blowing a seal" keeps going thru my brain

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 14 May 2004 09:18 (twenty-two years ago)

no i would just take my handy STEVIE NIXED SLEDGEHAMMER and pulpate petridish into atoms of wretched wood.

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 09:20 (twenty-two years ago)

that's a point i haven't seen what the lion of british music crit has been writing abt today...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 14 May 2004 09:21 (twenty-two years ago)

hmmmm, i kinda agree with him re morrissey but he is sucha boring writer i can't reach the end of the piece...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 14 May 2004 09:25 (twenty-two years ago)

he seems to have come to the same conclusion about morrissey.

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 09:27 (twenty-two years ago)

actually wi don't know why i complain abt petridis so much - if i'm being honest i think the wiley review was the 1st piece by him that i've actuall read from start to finish in the past couple of years

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 14 May 2004 09:40 (twenty-two years ago)

it's easy to doze off halfway through all his other pieces innit.

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 09:42 (twenty-two years ago)

reading thru the other reviews - did the guardian's music ed wake up one morning and say "i know, i'd like to commission the dullest writers in the uk to do all our music crit"? it sure looks like it

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 14 May 2004 09:46 (twenty-two years ago)

well, one of them is my boss so i have to be careful not to try it on this account.

no, sod it, friday review, pile of congealing, rancid, dated fortysomething executive drivetime shit. caw it down every last facken syllable of it and good riddance!

(well, vituperative slaggings off worked for me re. getting work with wire, uncut & time out so who knows?)

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 09:50 (twenty-two years ago)

which one, lester?

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 14 May 2004 09:54 (twenty-two years ago)

oh no there are two, i forgot about david p.

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 14 May 2004 10:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Matos: Baker is a smug musicologist who gets dragged out on current affairs shows and documentaries etc. etc. to explain why The Beach Boys were the best thing ever and John Farnham is a national treasure and ad nauseum. I think what bugs me is the fact that he equates x-ology with spouting the most banal crowdpleasing opinions on x rather than, y'know, thinking about x.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 15 May 2004 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

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