Do You think You'll Still be listening to your current Favorite Music in Ten Years?

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Relax, this isn't another one of those threads wherein I try to assert the oh-so-tired "timelessness = greatness" argument, but rather a question about how the passage of time and life experience will alter your listening habits. I can currently say with a reasonable amount of certainty that I still like and listen to the music I considered my favorite ten years ago (1994, which still seems quite recent to me). Looking ahead, though, will I still be blasting, say, "Heads I Win, Tails You Lose" by Cop Shoot Cop in 2014 at the ripe age of 46?

I suppose it's all relative. Certain artists will invariably fall off the radar (in much the same way I look at some of the bands I loved in 1984 and often exclaim "What was I thinking?"), but I'm sure I'll still have loads of time for perenial faves like Killing Joke, the Stranglers, XTC etc. But by this time, I'll have a ten year old child and probably have morphed further into the embarassing father that is inevitably my destiny (and yes, hataz, I'm sure I'll have retired my much-maligned leathuh jacket by then).

What about you? Do you envision yourself still grooving to the stuff you listen to now in ten years?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 17 May 2004 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Dude, I still listen to thing I liked TWENTY years ago!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 17 May 2004 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, ten years doesn't seem that long now that I think about it. Perhaps I should extend it to twenty.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 17 May 2004 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't listen to things i liked last week anymore.

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Monday, 17 May 2004 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

There's no reason to automatically change your tastes or faves as time passes -- I might listen to them less, and in some cases I listen to them more! I think there's also something to the claim from Andrew Eldritch in an interview he did once where in talking about his favorite albums he said that it wasn't about the listening to them much as it was just looking at the sleeve or the cover and letting all the memories come rushing back about them.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 May 2004 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Good ol' Von.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 17 May 2004 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm only 21 but with a few exceptions I've kept listening to a good portion of the stuff I listened to at 13. Anyway, Ned OTM.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 17 May 2004 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't listen to my favorite music from last year much anymore. I'm slowly growing into my taste. I might listen to the music I will listen to five years from now after an additional five years, though.

Sonny A. (Keiko), Monday, 17 May 2004 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I seem to still like most of the stuff, although I haven't listened to Seefeel for a good long time now!

This is a list I posted over 10 years ago; Ned's also featured in the thread... The wonders of the internet eh? At least I've learnt a but more how to write and punctuate gooder since then.

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=kmw.755264639%40dcs.ed.ac.uk&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3Dkmw.755264639%2540dcs.ed.ac.uk

Keith Watson (kmw), Monday, 17 May 2004 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned; you do pretty well out of that above thread by the looks of what you write about these days!

Keith Watson (kmw), Monday, 17 May 2004 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I definitely don't see my favorites falling off of the radar 10 or 20 years down the road... I've had the same favorite band since 1988, and I still listen to stuff from almost 20 years ago.

martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 17 May 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned; you do pretty well out of that above thread by the looks of what you write about these days!

Heh, still a lot of love there for much of that! Not all, to be sure, but it's a small amount in comparison.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 May 2004 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

PM Dawn?

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Monday, 17 May 2004 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, was listening to the first album at some point last month. Great album.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 May 2004 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, seems like a lot of people were really raving about that at the time.

I maintain I will still be listening to Crispy Ambulance in 10 years, of not 20.

Bimble (bimble), Monday, 17 May 2004 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I pretty much still listen to the same stuff I listened to 20 years ago or so, though given the hundreds of new things I've heard - and considering all the great stuff I've missed and caught up on in the interim - I by necessity listen to it less. So, yes, I still listen to, erm, Rush and Weird Al and the Cult. Just less than I listen to a lot of other stuff these days.

Come to think of it, the only artists I stopped listening to altogether and can barely stomach are Pink Floyd (post-Dark Side) and Madonna (she's so insufferable even her good stuff has been tainted).

On my "to listen to" pile: Seefeel!

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Monday, 17 May 2004 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Madonna (she's so insufferable even her good stuff has been tainted).

Agreed. I was buying breakfast this morning in a deli to the temple-battering strains of "Ray of Light" blaring out of radio behind the counter, and really....that is no way to start your morning.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 17 May 2004 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Therapy?!!!!! HOORAY

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 17 May 2004 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I knew Dan wouldn't let me down.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 May 2004 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I agree with what others are saying, in that I'm still listening to a lot of bands that I liked ten years ago, so there's no reason to assume I'll grow out of the stuff I like now.
However, I'm also tempted to play devil's advocate because I have a million times more music now than I did in 1994. So, the stuff I like now is more likely to get lost in the shuffle than my 1994 faves were.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 17 May 2004 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

PM Dawn?

-- Jamie Fake (jamiefak...), May 17th, 2004 3:41 PM. (the pirate king)
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Yeah, was listening to the first album at some point last month. Great album.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), May 17th, 2004 3:44 PM. (Ned)

Ned is Jim DeRogatis, and I claim my $5.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 17 May 2004 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Not even 20 years is long enough to quit listening to fave albums. I discovered Electric Ladyland through relatives when was 10. No way I'd quit playing that.

If the songs were class enough to capture your interest in the first place, why throw it out?

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Monday, 17 May 2004 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned is Jim DeRogatis, and I claim my $5.

Nonsense. For a start, the hair length is different.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 May 2004 21:44 (twenty-two years ago)

and ned doesnt ride the short bus.

jack cole (jackcole), Monday, 17 May 2004 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

i doubt it. i'm very easily manipulated when it comes to ideas about what kind of taste i should have. i sometimes think that music's more important to me as some form of social currency than as music qua music anyway. with a few important exceptions, perhaps.

m. (mitchlnw), Monday, 17 May 2004 21:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i sometimes think that music's more important to me as some form of social currency

Interesting, I've pondered this concept more than once recently but I think you're the only one to come right out and say it! Out of curiosity, do you feel that way about other artistic media?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 May 2004 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm pretty sure i'll be totally sick of the music i like now in ten years! (probably in five, even!)

s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 May 2004 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

do you feel that way about other artistic media?

i had to think about this for a little while. i don't think i do. the music you like is first question of taste on the friendster form, right? i guess if i was talking purely about dancing, i'd say that going to a film isn't the equivalent of performing your approval on a dancefloor, but generally movies/literatue/art don't feel quite as usefully reducible to me. i don't know if that's poorly expressed, i'm tired.

m. (mitchlnw), Monday, 17 May 2004 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

REM's Monster I don't like as much, but I like Weezer even more.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 17 May 2004 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

so I figure I'll still be listening to Good Charlotte.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 17 May 2004 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

...and god willing, I'll still be giving you shit for it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 17 May 2004 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

The Odd Couple 2030.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 May 2004 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Probably, but not with the same enthusiasm.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Monday, 17 May 2004 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I think a lot of the time our tastes are (largely unconscious) reflections of instinctive ideas of how music (or certain types of music) should be. Over time, if those ideas fade in importance or change then it's probable that the music that corresponds to those ideas will cease to be as relevant - certainly the second or third tier examples!

It's a not particularly original suggestion to make that musical changes tastes are most in flux when your ideas and values wrt music are rapidly mutating, which I think tends to happen when the uses you get out of music change. Someone whose listening and thinking about music is entirely solitary is less likely to change their tastes on a regular basis than someone whose use of music is more social - going out dancing, reading music journalism or simply talking about it with friends has a mutational effect on ones ideas and values, and hence tastes. Being "fashionable" at the end of the day boils down to engaging with music at a social, not (or more than) solitary level. NB. I don't think one approach is necessarily better than the other.

Is it generalising to suggest that the older you get the more solitary and less social your musical contexts become?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 17 May 2004 23:59 (twenty-two years ago)

If music in general continues to decline in quality as it has over the last several years, I'll probably ONLY be listening to what I listen to now.

This thread reminds me of a conversation I had in high school. I'm 39 years old now, so you youngsters out here probably can't relate to this, but I have always remembered talking one day with a kid who was a senior and I was probably a freshman or sophomore. He said "when you're old, like 30, you won't still be listening to the stuff you listen to now." I didn't agree then, and it turns out I was right.

I still listen to all the old punk rock, heavy metal and dinosaur rock I listened to back then. I have expanded (greatly) my musical horizons since then, but I can easily imagine being in my 90's (deity of your choice willing) and STILL cranking "Beat On The Brat."

Davlo (Davlo), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 02:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Absolutley no way. Guaranteed. My music tastes change vastly even over the year. The month. The week.

David Allen (David Allen), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 02:14 (twenty-two years ago)

However, sometimes I go back to bands I listened to a lot in parts of my life I like to remember for comfort.

David Allen (David Allen), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

My favourites, probably.

Ned: Hiphoprisy?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 04:04 (twenty-two years ago)

That's one of the exceptions, definitely. Only just sold the disc back this past weekend, though!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

my day-to-day listening will be wildly different but my 'all time favourites' will probably be pretty similar. most of those have been in place for 10+ years.

the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 04:08 (twenty-two years ago)

having said that there's lots of stuff i would have said was 'all time favourite' worthy 10 years ago that i rarely if ever listen to now, Sarah records stuff for example, and mid-80s aussie indie rock

the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 04:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it generalising to suggest that the older you get the more solitary and less social your musical contexts become?
I think that's OTM. My musical tastes have changed a lot less than my "musical people". The friends I was talking, swapping discs and mixtapes, and clubbing with are not at all the same people I do so with today.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 05:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I have no doubt that there are some things that I'm listening to today that I'll still be listening to in 10, 20 or even 30 years and some that I won't - but I have absolutely no idea which thing they'll be.

I know there are are some things that I liked 10, 20 or even 30 years ago that I still listen to today and some that I don't. Some things I've grown to like more, others I've grown to like less.

There are some things that I still like in theory but which I never seem to pull them down off the shelf and actually listen to....

Josh is absolutely OTM about ".... given the hundreds of new things I've heard - and considering all the great stuff I've missed and caught up on in the interim - I by necessity listen to it less." but that doesn't explain why relatively some things are listened to more and more and are listened to others less and less.

I suspect that has to do with how both the music scene as a whole and my personal tastes and knowledge (of which my age and the "musical people" I'm involved with are certainly facets) have developed and continue to develop.

Some things I first heard 10 / 20 / 30 years ago continue to sound fresh and relevant, some to become even more so, some to become less so, and some have just ceased to do so.

Some things that sounded unusual, different, alien, innovative and exciting and challenging to me 10 / 20 /30 years ago continue to sound unusual, different, alien, innovative and exciting and challenging; others have begun to sound commonplace - some things have become so commonplace that I've just grown tired of them.

Sometimes that's because I just hadn't encountered that type of music before (and obviously the frequency with which that happens decreses as I get older); but sometimes it's because of the number of subsequent bands / musicians who've subsequently copied that sound, what other sounds they've mixed it with and what directions they've taken it in.

So, without knowing how everything else is going to change, I can't tell you which of the things I'm listening to now (or indeed which of the things I was listening to 10 / 20 /30 years ago) I'll still be listening to in 10 /20 /30 years time.

I will bet a fiver (bearing in mind that by 2034 a fiver will be a small coin with the approximate purchasing power that 5p has today) that I'll still be listening to Captain Beefheart 'though.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 09:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I've put off adding my boring answer to this, but now I'm ready to say, yes, I think I'll still be listening to some of my current favorites then, but it's really hard to say for--yawn. Ten years could, and hopefully will, bring significant changes in my life. Anyway, I keep wanting to hear things I haven't heard before, and I don't see that changing. I suspect I will be listening most to tradition-rooted non-western/Latin music. It's possible that my dabbling in avant-garde things will cease completely.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)


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