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yea I genuinely don't know where if not this board, either way it was great

just remembered I played "Island" by Echolyn and "Heaps of Sheeps" by Robert Wyatt at some point too, I genuinely don't know how I got this all in

frogbs, Saturday, 6 January 2024 05:09 (four months ago) link

my playlist of this -- which omits nice nice very nice and fredhammer as they don't seem to be on tidal -- just hit five hours

mark s, Saturday, 6 January 2024 11:43 (four months ago) link

slightly surprised to be concluding that the funkiest track on frogbs's list is gong's "flying teapot" (courtesy francis moze and laurie allan i guess)

also laurie allan played with chris macgregor (tho i guess the wyatt-bluenotes nexus is not a total secret)

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 16:25 (four months ago) link

hey, if funky prog is out there, I sure don't know about it. though I would argue that section of "The Remembering" is kinda funky :)

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:28 (four months ago) link

there's a ton of funky prog. i would argue that funky drummers are an essential part of prog. even the big 3 have tons of funky tracks (bill bruford and phil collins are both funky ass drummers!). the french and italian stuff gets down and dirty. magma is hella funky. check out 3:20 in the area song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqhsqYJozG4

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:38 (four months ago) link

This is funky! Kind of. Goes into a bit of quiet storm around the 4 mins mark too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc04Xd3wOhQ

where did the times go (Matt #2), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:39 (four months ago) link

cat food is funky as hell

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:41 (four months ago) link

of course, i was just surprised at gong of all people pulling ahead in this particular race

(of course moze was magma's bass player)

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:42 (four months ago) link

of course

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:42 (four months ago) link

as much as I liked the first Area LP, I never checked out the second, indeed that sounds great

I've always thought Yes had their own brand of funk - Siberian Khatru, Heart of the Sunrise, Sound Chaser and all that...obviously Crimson has stuff like One More Red Nightmare and Easy Money. Magma's Attahk is definitely funky but also a bit out there. that's on my list if I get another opportunity though.

but tracks like "Flying Teapot" which just ride a groove uninterrupted for a few minutes - idk how many tunes like that there are out there. I thought both the Midday Veil tracks were pretty funky though, in fact Bernie Worrell is on one of them

frogbs, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:45 (four months ago) link

maybe we should start a thread :)

(not a poll tho, they suck)

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 17:58 (four months ago) link

as much as I liked the first Area LP, I never checked out the second

Crac is the third Area album, their second is called Caution Radiation Area and is probably more fusion/avant garde than funky; although their fifth, 1978 Gli Dei Se Ne Vanno, Gli Arrabbiati Restano! contains a song called "Ici on dance!" So maybe that's what they were all about, when not fomenting revolution.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:07 (four months ago) link

I think there's a lot of this type of material in something like Andy Votel's Vertigo mix:

https://www.discogs.com/release/498388-Andy-Votel-Vertigo-Mixed

(it's a big grab bag and not only prog, but I think it's def prog adjacent)

fpsa, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:09 (four months ago) link

there's a ton of funky prog.

there is but sometimes it gets hard to distinguish between funky prog, proggy funk, "prog-funk" and fusion.

Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:14 (four months ago) link

even Gong occasionally have funky inclinations

Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:16 (four months ago) link

I'm not at all suprised about Gong getting funky, if it had been Van der Graaf Generator...

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:21 (four months ago) link

still life almost gets there... there's some bass playing on the maida vale live album that gets out da fonk.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:33 (four months ago) link

They don't even have a bass player on "Still Life"!

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:34 (four months ago) link

that hammond bass is sick tho

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:40 (four months ago) link

3 mins in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dM9uujpGkc

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:41 (four months ago) link

time for ILM top help one another distinguish between funky prog, proggy funk, "prog-funk", fusion and etc

ignore comedy typo, i've been proofreading all day and my eyes are going

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 18:46 (four months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gcl_Te7P9o

MaresNest, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:00 (four months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7AJUT7JdJA

Not sure why these two classical/prog things popped into my mind, that Variations record is out(bloody)rageous in parts

MaresNest, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:03 (four months ago) link

whoa i didnt know about that ALW album!

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:24 (four months ago) link

really it's a colosseum ii LP, feat. ALW arrangements of paganini

once upon a time it was a big deal in the UK, bcz the very first eoisode of long-running cultural TV show the south bank show devoted to its recording, and the main pagaini riff became the TV show's themetune for like 95 years

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:46 (four months ago) link

Very much a charity shop staple.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:51 (four months ago) link

i will never sell my copy

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:52 (four months ago) link

even for pennies

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:52 (four months ago) link

No-one would buy it anyway.

Little Billy Love (Tom D.), Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:53 (four months ago) link

kurt might!

but he's not getting it

mark s, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 19:54 (four months ago) link

gimme!

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 10 January 2024 20:29 (four months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApXA1YjOM6M

MaresNest, Saturday, 20 January 2024 20:25 (three months ago) link

thanks for sharing, you know when a band's primary songwriter is named "Joop van Nimwegen" you're in for something special

took me a while to notice there weren't any vocals on this, good because it doesn't need 'em

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 January 2024 14:43 (three months ago) link

looks like I'm doing next week's prog night too, sweet

currently listening to From Silence to Somewhere by Wobbler and wow it really rules. hard to complain about something being derivative when it's this good

frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2024 03:43 (three months ago) link

Been listening to the Supersister compilation M.A.N. Memories Are New and I'm really glad I wanted to be completist about this band. It's mostly songs that aren't on any of the albums, "Wine Melody" was worth the price of admission and the live versions never feel like a waste because they always added new tangents (often humorous) and they have a great energy.

I need to check out the bands Stips was in after Supersister and before Nits.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:14 (three months ago) link

His solo records are pretty endearing too.

MaresNest, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:18 (three months ago) link

one thing I love is when you randomly find great obscure prog albums in the bargain bin, I picked up Refugee and Trace for five bucks apiece and they both rule

frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2024 21:22 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTyFPnnnuL8

MaresNest, Sunday, 28 January 2024 00:03 (three months ago) link

lmao I'm dying at the fact they put Weathers at the front of the line. might be the funniest prog music video ever made

frogbs, Sunday, 28 January 2024 03:14 (three months ago) link

Bill Bruford's coming to NYC, but unfortunately it's just for a talk - I guess he really is retired from performing. On the other hand, his talk is paired with a performance by ProgJect "featuring Stu Hamm, Mike Keneally, Alessandro Del Vechhio, Ryo Okumoto and Jonathan Mover performing the classics and epics from Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Bruford, etc." Considering how many of the classic prog bands are no longer active (which may even include King Crimson), this may not be a bad way of seeing their music live.

https://sonyhall.com/events/bill-bruford/?id=17261

birdistheword, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 05:00 (three months ago) link

I've seen videos of those guys, they're pretty legit. Pretty sure Marc Bonilla was touring with those guys at some point too.

dunno if I mentioned it on this thread but I saw Steve Hackett live a few months ago. it was pretty amazing - that too was sort of an all-star lineup. despite having heard it a hundred times seeing "Supper's Ready" performed live was something else. I never thought I'd get the chance to see something like that. not gonna say I cried but I definitely got a little emotional

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 14:50 (three months ago) link

I saw The Music Box, who do Gabriel-era Genesis a few years ago (with costumes!), well worth the $25-30 I paid.

nickn, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 17:26 (three months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxNw3G0TXPE

MaresNest, Friday, 2 February 2024 12:27 (three months ago) link

^^ that record just got reissued. I think all of IQ's albums are good (even the Paul Menel ones have their charms) but yeah The Wake is something special, neo-prog that actually rocks

got to DJ another prog set last night, this time I broke out some Magma and Area. I think it actually scared one of the bartenders because she told me afterwards "some of that music gave me a lot of anxiety"

frogbs, Friday, 2 February 2024 20:23 (three months ago) link

I have the ridiculous 3 or 4 disc edition from years ago, seemed like the ultimate incarnation and someone asked in the dvd feature if it would be the last version and the singer said "until the next one".
Is it just the same version?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 2 February 2024 22:08 (three months ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://wizrd.bandcamp.com/album/seasons

forgive the band name. and the album title. these guys fuckin' rock. sounds to me like if Van Halen decided to become a prog band instead.

frogbs, Monday, 19 February 2024 03:23 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

doing another prog night in a couple hours, just winging it this time :)

frogbs, Thursday, 7 March 2024 22:50 (two months ago) link

free tip for all the prog DJs out there when a tune has a long outro play the beginning of In Search of the Lost Chord over it, as soon as the poem ends and the drum kicks in for "Ride My Seesaw" hit the fader, its like a bolt of lightning

frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2024 16:20 (two months ago) link

Did you just let it play then?

sawdust lagoon, Friday, 8 March 2024 16:23 (two months ago) link

oh absolutely, it's a killer tune. think I got a good balance this time between prog epics everyone knows - Karn Evil 9, Yours is No Disgrace, Dance on a Volcano, etc., and my own esoteric stuff. but I think the key is to drop a lot of cool 3-minute psych songs in the middle of all that. I think I played 3 Dukes of Stratosphear tunes but there are lots of great ones for this. Brief Candles by the Zombies, Round and Round by Strawbs, Inside by Jethro Tull, and so on. also played "La Mela di Odessa" by Area as recommended above since I did need to get some funk in. also let me segue into Magma quite nicely. the guy who usually does this hates Magma but guess what?? he wasn't there so tough luck

frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2024 16:28 (two months ago) link


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