TS: Johnny Cash vs. Elliot Smith

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No reason. I'm bored.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Johnny Cash. The Elliot Smith album I bought was shite. (Though I may have just bought the wrong album.)

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Black Sabbath vs. Puddle of Mudd

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Billie Holiday vs. Natalie Cole.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Johnny Mathis vs. Diet Pepsi.

― m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

James Brown vs. Bobby Brown

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Charlie Parker vs. Linkin Park

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Husker Du vs Warrant

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Betty Carter vs. Aaron Carter

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Betty Crocker vs. Crockett.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Tubbs vs. King Tubby

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Davy Crockett vs. Davy Jones

― m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Peter Murphy vs. Pete Steele

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Virgil "they call me mister" tibbs v Ricardo Tubbs

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Aaron Neville vs. Aaron Carter.
Or did we do that one already?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Hailing a taxi vs. carrying it home

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Liz Phair vs. Fairport Convention

― m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Xzibit vs cockles.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:38 (twenty-two years ago)

elliot smith was a better guitarist and wrote better songs. i preferred ES' voice but i don't think he's a "better" singer.

― the surface noise made by people (electricsound), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:38 (twenty-two years ago)

http://entimg.msn.com/i/gal/Tweens/MirandaCos_Grani_2501096_600_300x435.jpg

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)

No, really. I'm bored.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Tofu, who's head is that?

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:40 (twenty-two years ago)

ALL YOU PLAYAS BEST CHECK YO'SELF AND GET IN LINE.
I've been waiting for these for weeks

Requests for future Calum threads:
TS: Britney Spears vs Husker Du
TS: Dr. Dre vs John Cooper Clarke
TS: free jazz vs ambient techno
TS: The Archies vs Linkin Park
TS: Merzbow vs The Buggles
-- Barry Bruner (brune...), May 2nd, 2004.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:41 (twenty-two years ago)

why does the anatomy/perspective look all wrong in that picture?

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Because the head is sewed on, and when she takes off that choker....

*THUD* *Sound of blood gushing skyward*

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I always thought Johnny Cash vs. Curtis Mayfield would've been a good seemingly unrelated taking sides thread.

The answer is Curtis Mayfield, btw

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I post them as I find them. That's on MSN's "photos of the hot 'tweeners" (seriously).
Apparently she was in School of Rock.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I will just assume for the sake of my own mental health that you did not type "h0t tw33ners" into google.

― Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:45 (twenty-two years ago)

B-b-but the hot tweener in School of Rock was mini-Kim Gordon.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:53 (twenty-two years ago)

elliot smith was a better guitarist and wrote better songs.
I'm still agog over the latter claim. C'mon, "Folsom Prison Blues" by itself stomps all over Smith's entire catalogue.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 20 May 2004 23:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, it was on my hotmail account sidebar as "see pics of the new screen tweens" and I didn't know what the fuck that meant. Click. Click. Why is that girl's head so confusing?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 21 May 2004 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

by the way, anyone who says Smith over Cash can fight me with broken bottles.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 21 May 2004 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)

that's not photoshopped???? what the???

― metfigga (metfigga), Friday, 21 May 2004 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd say, anyone who says smith over cash should be turned into a hot tweener

― metfigga (metfigga), Friday, 21 May 2004 00:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahahaha...I don't know what a "hot tweener" is, but oof does it sound bad!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 May 2004 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)

no matter how contrarian you're trying to be, it's gotta be Cash.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 21 May 2004 00:27 (twenty-two years ago)

bob dylan vs. dave matthews

― chris andrews (fraew), Friday, 21 May 2004 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

A hot tweener is when you release your bowels on your partner's chest and then spoon.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 21 May 2004 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahaha.....thanks.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 May 2004 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

oh man, that's pretty much the nastiest thing i've ever read.

― metfigga (metfigga), Friday, 21 May 2004 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Fuck o fuck, when I saw this thread I just about had a fit. I'm glad common sense has prevailed.

― subgenius (subgenius), Friday, 21 May 2004 02:13 (twenty-two years ago)

elliot smith was a better guitarist and wrote better songs.

Elliot Smith was a terrible song writer. Just standard issue sad-about-my-girlfriend shit.

― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 21 May 2004 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Gawd, why doesn't he just go kill himself already?!

― David Allen (David Allen), Friday, 21 May 2004 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Not nice.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 21 May 2004 02:19 (twenty-two years ago)

That song in the Royal Tennenbaums is pretty amazing, though...

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 21 May 2004 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I actually rather like his cover of "jealous guy" and everything else I've heard is decent too... but better than Cash? C'mon.
Really, how many artists could you inarguably say were more influential, more powerful, more artistically successful and more enjoyable than Johnny Cash?
That's not a rhetorical; can you think of any?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 21 May 2004 04:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Do ES fans treat "Needle in the Hay" (the RT song) with the same disdain most Violent Femmes fans I've met treat "Blister in the Sun"?

It is his finest moment, though.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 21 May 2004 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Really, how many artists could you inarguably say were more influential, more powerful, more artistically successful and more enjoyable than Johnny Cash?
That's not a rhetorical; can you think of any?

Paul McCartney.

― I Wish You Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 21 May 2004 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Even Smith has a better claim against Cash than Paul Fucking McCartney.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 21 May 2004 04:23 (twenty-two years ago)

It is his finest moment, though.
Damn right it is. And the self-titled album it's on is easily his best.

― Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 21 May 2004 04:25 (twenty-two years ago)

elliot smith was a better guitarist and wrote better songs.

oh for fuck's sake. this is like saying you prefer generic supermarket cola to a glass of champagne.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 21 May 2004 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Paul McCartney.

who?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 21 May 2004 04:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Even Smith has a better claim against Cash than Paul Fucking McCartney.

More influential than Johnny Cash: Check
More powerful than Johnny Cash: Check
More artistically successful than Johnny Cash: Check
More enjoyable than Johnny Cash: Check

In conclusion, you suck.

― I Wish You Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 21 May 2004 05:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, except your being wrong on the last basically invalidates the previous three.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 21 May 2004 05:47 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread leaves me speechless.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 May 2004 05:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I doubt that somehow.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 21 May 2004 05:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I'm speechless....BUT I CAN STILL TYPE, YA BASTARD!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I just can't imagine you seeing something and not throwing a very verbal fit. I imagine you like those Warner Brothers cartoon characters whose faces get redder and redder until STEAM shoots out of their ears and then you just explode into this near epileptic fit of swearing, screaming and muttering.

I have no idea where I got this impression btw ;)

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Blah. Fact is Johnny Cash sucked, and that's a fact because I'm god.

― Alex in Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:09 (twenty-two years ago)

God, your taste is shit.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, that's not actually the case in this instance. I mean, this thread doesn't make me mad, just incredulous.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I've got to learn to distinguish your many varied moods, Alex. I consider it a failing in me that I haven't mastered them thus far.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean, I'm all for toppling over sacred cows...but to suggest that Elliott Smith is in any way superior to Johnny Cash is heroically ludicrous.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:12 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: Elliott Smith as martyr v. Jeff Buckley as martyr, which is more annoying?

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:14 (twenty-two years ago)

elliott smith is more annoying because, typically, martyrs don't pussy out and off themselves.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and all the Elliott Smith bagging is shit. He's not god exactly, but loads of his songs are incredibly well constructed.

― Alex in Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, what's with my god fixation today? Evidently I'm not drinking enough.

― Alex in Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:20 (twenty-two years ago)

yes i think catholic doctrine agrees with you there ian

― g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Elliott Smith was great.....but he was no Johnny Cash.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:22 (twenty-two years ago)

also: you're an asshole

xpost

― g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:22 (twenty-two years ago)

name calling is for fags & women.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:25 (twenty-two years ago)

asshole, i said.

― g--ff (gcannon), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Ian and Jon need to put down Vice Magazine and maybe leave the dorm once a week. All this isolation and Krautrock and testosterone has made you completely batshit.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahahahahaha

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:29 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, relax.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:29 (twenty-two years ago)

"If I have ever said anything to offend anyone, it was never my intention and I apologize for all the hurt I may have caused."

― Marge "Ian Johnson" Schott (Alex in SF), Friday, 21 May 2004 06:34 (twenty-two years ago)

puh - LEEZE ! ! !

Cash brushes Smith away like so much dandruff. Smith has a lot going for him, but this is a no-brainer...

How about June Carter (Cash) v. Aaron Carter ?

― John Bullabaugh (John Bullabaugh), Saturday, 22 May 2004 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

As far as I know, Elliot Smith never put his name on songs he didn't write or elbow his way into a share of the publishing of songs he didn't write. So one point for Elliot Smith.

But Johnny Cash records are a much better buy overall, so two points for Johnny.

Johnny Cash wins.

― David Brinkley, Saturday, 22 May 2004 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Having noticed that this surfaced again, it occurred to me:
would ANYONE argue that Johnny Cash coulda whupped Elliot Smith's ass?

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 23 May 2004 08:15 (twenty-two years ago)

cash would've kick smith's ass every time up until at least the mid 80s, then it would come down to cash's physical condition at the time.. hardcore fucking way to die though

― chris andrews (fraew), Sunday, 23 May 2004 08:26 (twenty-two years ago)

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