Bob Seger's "Night Moves": C or D

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Deeply resonant ode to a lost youth or icky romanticized paean to anonymous sexual encounters?

(P.S. What do you think of the false ending?)

amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 22 May 2004 18:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Deeply resonant ode to a lost youth or icky romanticized paean to anonymous sexual encounters?

It can't be both? (I'm quite serious.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 May 2004 18:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Bob Seger is kindof funny sometimes. Let me see if I can remember: "trying to be some...front page news..." A friend of mine was saying he hadn't heard of Seger before and I was trying to point out one of his more well-known songs saying "you'd recognize him if you heard him" but I couldn't remember the well-known songs! Then more recently, because I am force fed oldies radio at my job, I realized I should have been able to say "Old time Rock and Roll" or whatever it was called. I actually did buy a 45 of Seger in the early 80's. Can't remember what it was called, either.

Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 22 May 2004 18:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Seger used to typify everything I hated about American middle-of-the-road rock'n'roll. Sort've an edgeless, yawnsome proto-Mellencamp that you'd hear at truck stops and state fairs. Blecch!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:05 (sixteen years ago) link

That's what I mean, Alex. He's FUNNY. Not as bad as some other folks, but damn funny in a way.

Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link

This song at the very end of American Pop (the Bakshi film) is so anti-climactic and LAME, ugh.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link

let's stay on task here
not only is "night moves" great
it once got me laid

seger's other stuff
is all up-and-down and stuff
"night moves," though, is DOPE

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Night Moves is sooo classic....all human beings should be moved by the MOR wistfulness....also classic Seger:

hollywood nights
beautiful loser
and ESPECIALLY the kinda by the numbers Seger but also kind of weird sub-springsteen in his early dylan knockoff lyrics phase FIRE LAKE!!!!

got you stuck off the realness, bob be the infamous...

(PS also the Bob Seger System album is ace pscyh-R&B with ultra classic Ramblin Gamblin Man)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

"anonymous sexual encounters"

Well, the encounters aren't anonymous, are they? I mean, it's just a couple of teenagers going at it in the backseat of a car, but I don't think it's ever implied that they don't know each other.

Not that it matters. I have to say it's "deeply resonant" because when I was like 12 or 13, this song represented what I thought being a teenager was going to be like, and I have to say, it sounded pretty sweet. I realize that's not what you meant when you said "deeply resonant," but I feel OK with that.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link

Not that it matters. I have to say it's "deeply resonant" because when I was like 12 or 13, this song represented what I thought being a teenager was going to be like

scott ce so fucking OTM....(also I grew up in a midwestern small town which might mean that it means more to me)....

also it's what being a teenager SHOULD have been like, but usually isn't....

also, I remember songs like this making me nostalgic for being a teenager when I WAS a teenager....nostalgia for the PRESENT...or nostalgia for something that never was....or I haven't got any sleep in days and I should SHUT UP!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Nostalgia for a web post yet to cOOOOOOOOooooooooommmmeee....

Pete Shelley (Ned), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link

fuck these lyrics are amazing:

Who’s gonna ride that chrome three wheeler
Who’s gonna make that first mistake
Who wants to wear those gypsy leathers
All the way to fire lake
Who wants to break the news about uncle joe
You remember uncle joe
He was the one afraid to cut the cake
Who wants to tell poor aunt sarah
Joe’s run off to fire lake
Joe’s run off to fire lake

Who wants to brave those bronze beauties
Lying in the sun
With their long soft hair falling
Flying as they run
Oh they smile so shy
And they flirt so well
And they lay you down so fast
Till you look straight up and say
Oh lord
Am I really here at lost

Who wants to play those eights and aces
Who wants a raise
Who needs a stake
Who wants to take that long shot gamble
And head out to fire lake
Head out
Who wants to go to fire lake
And head out
Who wants to go to fire lake
Head out
Out to fire lake

I WANT MY LIFE TO BE A CHEVY TRUCK COMMERCIAL RIGHT NOW PLEASE!!!

WHO WANTS TO WEAR THOSE GYPSY LEATHERS?!??

UNCLE JOE IS AFRAID TO CUT THE CAKE?!?! (fart joke?)

i need a steak.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Wow, those are some REALLY bad lyrics.

Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 22 May 2004 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

matt is so otm. this song made me feel nostalgic for being a teenager before i was a teenager. see also "against the wind," which imo mines the same topic to even greater emotional effect. ah, the power of bob. to me, he occupies a space outside of classic or dud. he's just seger.

lauren (laurenp), Saturday, 22 May 2004 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Not that it matters. I have to say it's "deeply resonant" because when I was like 12 or 13, this song represented what I thought being a teenager was going to be like, and I have to say, it sounded pretty sweet.

Scott OTM

also, I remember songs like this making me nostalgic for being a teenager when I WAS a teenager....nostalgia for the PRESENT...or nostalgia for something that never was...

Matt OTM

Not much more needs to be said, other than to affirm classic status. It's great fun to play that simple D-C-G progression over and over. I never tire of it. Also, been spending a lot of time with the album of the same name over the last 6 months or so; it's probably his best overall album, IMNSHO. And yes, I've heard them all.

Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 22 May 2004 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link

"Fire Lake", the cold war was so great

dave q, Saturday, 22 May 2004 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link

I've always liked the "short movie" starring Garrett Morris that was made for this song on the first season of Saturday Night Live. You can hear a pop on the record as it plays.

also classic Seger:

hollywood nights

The drums on this song are friggin' great.

Vic Funk, Saturday, 22 May 2004 23:44 (sixteen years ago) link

ok, not anonymous sexual encounters, but as seger himself says, loveless encounters.

i agree with ned...it's both. it's a really well written and arranged song, and his singing is great too, especially those carefully strangulated high notes. i mean, the song is admirable in its counterbalance of romanticism and romanticizing-puncturing detail.... but even with all its lyrics acknowledging the bumbling, awkward nature of teenage sexual encounters, there's something a little icky about it.

i never had an adolescence like this :(... but i understand the feelinsg about this song offering one vision of adolescence for those for whom it hadn't yet arrived.

the drums on "hollywood hills" ARE great. seger has a bunch of really great songs.

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2004 00:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Seger used to typify everything I hated about American middle-of-the-road rock'n'roll. Sort've an edgeless, yawnsome proto-Mellencamp that you'd hear at truck stops and state fairs. Blecch!

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...) (webmail), May 22nd, 2004 1:05 PM. (vassifer) (later) (link)
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"used to"? have you come around?

he really is (was) a good songwriter, a better than good singer...and his best records have really classic r'n'r arrangements, exciting and meaty without being (like much of his lesser, and later, stuff) too thick and portentous.

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2004 00:46 (sixteen years ago) link

next topic: nazareth's "love hurts"

(j/k)

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2004 00:49 (sixteen years ago) link

S: "Mainstreet," a fucking unbelievably great song on every level

D: "Shakedown," featuring the stomach-turning chorus, "Shakedown, breakdown--you're busted" and then the lamest robo-horns ever. From the Beverly Hills Cop 2 OST, natch.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Sunday, 23 May 2004 00:50 (sixteen years ago) link

used to"? have you come around?

Not really, but his like has become pretty scarce....unless you count Kid Rock.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 23 May 2004 01:37 (sixteen years ago) link

i had hope for you, for a moment.

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2004 01:45 (sixteen years ago) link

K-tel Classic.

Even better than Cougar's "Ain't Even Done With the Night," which is also classic in the exact same bra-strap-fumbling vein.

spittle (spittle), Sunday, 23 May 2004 02:03 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't mind mellencamp in small doses. but that's another topic.

i'm not a big seger fan (i started a "defend the indefensible" about him a year ago, remember?). but i do like this song -- especially the slow part towards the end, where segar "wakes up to the sound of thunder," starts humming a "song from 1962," remembers the backseat romance of this song, and (as if to not dwell too long on it) notes that autumn is closing in. for some reason, it seems to sum up memories of that sorta thing pretty well esp. as one grows older -- think about it a while, then move on. and yeah, the music arrangement is pretty nice.

i also remember first hearing this when i was, like, 8? not having any knowledge of nookie, i just thought it was about a detective ("working on mysteries w/t any clues" and all).

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 23 May 2004 02:58 (sixteen years ago) link

haha! me too (re. the detective)

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2004 03:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Oh man, I've gotta third the props for the drums on "Hollywood Nights". Bravura performance.

Also, I got the chords wrong up there; I was trying to do it from memory. I had the I-IV-V in the wrong key; it's actually G-F-C. Same chords as "Sister Ray". Of course.

Broheems (diamond), Sunday, 23 May 2004 03:35 (sixteen years ago) link

medley!

amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 23 May 2004 03:53 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't mind mellencamp in small doses. but that's another topic.i'm not a big seger fan (i started a "defend the indefensible" about him a year ago, remember?). but i do like this song -- especially the slow part towards the end, where segar "wakes up to the sound of thunder," starts humming a "song from 1962," remembers the backseat romance of this song, and (as if to not dwell too long on it) notes that autumn is closing in. for some reason, it seems to sum up memories of that sorta thing pretty well esp. as one grows older -- think about it a while, then move on. and yeah, the music arrangement is pretty nice.

This just occured to me (your sentence about autumn closing in)

HUSKER DU'S CELEBRATED SUMMER = HOLLYWOOD NIGHTS OF 80S PUNK!!!!

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 23 May 2004 14:38 (sixteen years ago) link

eleven months pass...
We waited on the thundah.....WE WAITED ON THE THUNDAH!!!!!!!

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

I must confess that I love this song in the corniest corner of my heart. "I used her, she used me, but neither one cared." So very true to my memory of youthful sex.

Then that backward-looking section at the end is just knife-twistingly real: it's clear that he has romantic feelings about the past, while at the same time acknowledging how unromantic the coupling was.

Because nostalgia often has little to do with the quality of the experiences, and a lot to do with our own shifts in feeling about ourselves. This is actually a pretty feckin wise point, and one that I don't think was ever made in song before "Night Moves."

I have similar love for "Main Street." Not "Hollywood Nights," though, for some reason. Too frenetic, with its fast tempo and hooting backup singers.

The Mad Puffin, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Against The Wind

...which is basically an "it's tough to be a rockstar" song, I figured out years later. "Deadlines and commitments/What to leave in/What to leave out." I didn't understand that line at the time. Now I wonder how choosing a final track listing for an album is really worst than, "Makin' Thunderbirds" or the other Midwest labor jobs he sang about.

But too true about "Night Moves" and "nostalgia for an age yet to come" in so many Seger songs. And 1962 seemed like the distant past, when it was really only 15 years earlier. It would be like "hummin' a song from 1990" now.

mike a, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:28 (sixteen years ago) link

'Night Moves' is a great album, probably his last. There was definite slippage on 'Stranger in Town,' which includes 'Old Time Rock and Roll,' WHICH I NEVER NEED TO HEAR AGAIN IN 99 LIFETIMES.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 21:04 (sixteen years ago) link

But 'Night Moves' -- 'Rock and Roll Never Forgets,' 'Sunspot Baby' and 'Mary Lou'!

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 21:05 (sixteen years ago) link

but what about "hollywood nights" (a lovely guitar progression from which is currently looped in a country radio hit by somebody, but i haven't figured out who yet), "still the same," and "feel like a number," rickey? i agree *night moves* is better than *stranger in town,* but not *that* much better...the slippage is pretty slight!

xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 May 2005 22:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Nah, you're right about that stuff. I like "Till It Shines," too. I can still remember the first time I heard "Still the Same," though it wasn't a dramatic moment or anything.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:56 (sixteen years ago) link

But I do think that's where the cutoff comes. I still haven't found anything to like about 'Against the Wind.'

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 23:59 (sixteen years ago) link

This far in the thread and no hate for "Like A Rock" yet?

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 00:03 (sixteen years ago) link

>I still haven't found anything to like about 'Against the Wind.' <

'Fire Lake' isn't bad. (And 'Makin' Thunderbirds' on *the Distance*. though I haven't heard it in years, might well be better.) But either way, *Stranger in Town* is his last great album, not *Night Moves.*

xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 01:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Huge, huge, huge fucking classic.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 01:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, "Makin' Thunderbirds" was all right. And that version of "Trying to Live My Life Without You" was OK, if basically unnecessary. But he did it to throw some coin its author's way after Glenn Frey ripped it off for "The Long Run," so that's cool.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 02:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Elvis t., there was some oblique "Like a Rock" hate, in the reference to truck commercials above.

The Mad Puffin, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link

classic, obviously. And nobody's mentioned Turn the Page yet, which, although maybe corny, is likewise a supreme FM classic, and the best song ever about being a rocker on the road (maybe it's tied w/All the Way from Memphis, actually).

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:34 (sixteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
Somehow I always hated this song without paying much attention to it (like Alex in NYC I thought of it as corny proto-Mellencamp). But somehow I keep hearing it lately and it's got me, especially this verse:

We weren’t in love, oh no, far from it
We weren’t searchin’ for some pie in the sky summit
We were just young and restless and bored
Livin’ by the sword
And we’d steal away every chance we could
To the backroom, to the alley or the trusty woods
I used her, she used me
But neither one cared
We were gettin’ our share

The chorus still annoys me. I don't like the phrase "Night Moves" -- it just sounds dumb. But I think maybe I'm hitting the age when I start to really like mid 70s super-steady-beat medium-light rock.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Summertime... Summertime

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link

"Deadlines and commitments/What to leave in/What to leave out."

this is pretty much adult life summed up in a line.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I find Meat Loaf preferable.

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 12 January 2006 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

If you grew up in the Detroit area in the 60s/70s and listened to FM radio, you can't help having Seger's music practically encoded in yr DNA. Which makes it kind of easy to grow to hate much of it. But those albums up through Night Moves still mostly sound wonderfully wistful and saltily soulful--and, in the case of Ramblin Gamblin Man, surprisingly psychedelic and funky.

brettino's bounce (Da ve Segal), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:31 (fifteen years ago) link

If you grew up in the Detroit area in the 60s/70s and listened to FM radio, you can't help having Seger's music practically encoded in yr DNA. Which makes it kind of easy to grow to hate much of it.

uh, quite the opposite actually. as one who fits that description .. it makes it easy to LOVE it. Because we already knew how great Bob's early stuff wuz. tho it is fun to laugh at Soofjam lovin pitchdorks who discover Bob's early stuff and make an about-face.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not Pitchdork.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Friday, 13 January 2006 05:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Gave Bill Payne a buncha session paydays tho.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 November 2019 03:00 (one year ago) link

Before he played "Night Moves" he said something like "let's move some nights!"

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 November 2019 03:00 (one year ago) link

"Against the Wind" has a great line, like "I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then."

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 November 2019 03:02 (one year ago) link

xpost to Veggie, this is his farewell tour! Maybe just one more date.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 November 2019 03:04 (one year ago) link

Before he played "Night Moves" he said something like "let's move some nights!"


Loooool

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 2 November 2019 04:03 (one year ago) link

Man, I know so little about this dude, but I was just brushing up and it's *fascinating.* He released *seven* now more or less out of print albums before releasing "Beautiful Loser," which was a big hit and which he and others kind of consider his "first" album. It's not until "Night Moves" in '76 that the Silver Bullet Band (one of the most iconic American rock band names) even gets billed on the sleeves. There are all his connections to the Eagles (through Glenn Frey of course, but both other Dons make appearances on his records), but there's also that long running association with the Muscle Shoals crew. And then there's "Live Bullet" in '76, which ... is that the first of the massive, ubiquitous '70s live albums as cultural touchstone best-ofs? One of them, for sure. Frampton's "Come Alive" came out early in '76, "Budokan" a couple of years later. Hmm. Oh, Kiss "Alive!" came out in '75, did anything big come before that?

Anyway, here's a guy steeped in frat-friendly soul music that presents as better than average butt rock, but he also had a way with a ballad (and had the good sense to cover Rodney Crowell's "Shame on the Moon" in 1983, which gave Crowell his first big crossover commercial breakthrough). I guess Seger was playing to huge crowds, tens of thousands of people, in and around Detroit for years before he broke out himself. A pal was telling me at the show that apparently one of his only big markets outside of Michigan was Boston, and that for Boston's J. Geils Band one of their biggest other markets was Detroit, and that they and Seger would kind of swap cities back and forth. I was just reading interviews about it with Peter Wolf, and came across this:

"The first time we played Detroit, it was the J. Geils Band, MC5, Iggy Pop and the Stooges and Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels,'' he said.

The year was 1970 or 1971, Wolf said. And the opening act?

Bob Seger.

Now there's a bill.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 November 2019 14:31 (one year ago) link

And then there's "Live Bullet" in '76, which ... is that the first of the massive, ubiquitous '70s live albums as cultural touchstone best-ofs? One of them, for sure. Frampton's "Come Alive" came out early in '76, "Budokan" a couple of years later. Hmm. Oh, Kiss "Alive!" came out in '75, did anything big come before that?

Grand Funk Railroad's Live Album was 1970. So was the Who's Live at Leeds.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 2 November 2019 14:39 (one year ago) link

Ya-Ya's was '70 as well. Though maybe not a touchstone, per se, (not much radio play). "Blow Your Face Out" by Geils was '76, which got massive play (in Detroit, at least.) Same with Humble Pie "Rockin' The Fillmore", which I think was a few years earlier. I still have never heard the studio version of "I Don't Need No Doctor."

I guess those days when different regions celebrated artists that were relatively unknown elsewhere are long gone. For Seger to play Cobo Arena in Detroit one night, then some small theater in Denver a few nights later (though "Get Out of Denver" assured that he had at least a small following there), that just doesn't happen anymore. If you're big here you're pretty much big there, and vice versa.

henry s, Saturday, 2 November 2019 15:12 (one year ago) link

I dunno, does anyone care about Widespread Panic outside of the south?

L'assie (Euler), Saturday, 2 November 2019 15:20 (one year ago) link

in my experience everytime they tour, yes; there are hoards of awful jam band hippies in my town waiting to see them

akm, Saturday, 2 November 2019 15:24 (one year ago) link

Now there's a bill.

Here's another insane bill -- I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this was probably the only time Archie Shepp and Bob Seger shared a stage:

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51SUiZ4IAjL.jpg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 2 November 2019 15:26 (one year ago) link

If you're big here you're pretty much big there, and vice versa.

I don't know - when LCD Soundsystem did that big concert at Madison Square Garden that they filmed, I remember thinking that New York was the only city in America where fucking LCD Soundsystem could fill an arena. Everyplace else, they were a club- to midsized-theater act.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 2 November 2019 15:45 (one year ago) link

That's a good question. I wonder how much of it was partly driven by (phony) Last Show Ever! hype? Iirc Murphy admitted that was a ruse meant to goose ticket sales. That same tour they instantly sold out the Aragon here, which is 5000, and immediately added a second club show at the Riviera (which was just another 2500), but I bet they could have played, say, three shows at the Aragon. It's not MSG, but it would have been arena-sized numbers, 15,000 tickets.

Someone like Springsteen, though, I wonder. I think at the end of the reunion tour he played, what, 10 nights in a row at MSG? That's pretty crazy. Didn't he do a run of NY stadiums and baseball parks a few years later?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 2 November 2019 15:57 (one year ago) link

Y’all need to get a copy of our very own Myonga Von Bontee’s “Never Mind The Bullets” fan compilation covering allllll the good stufff from 66-74

though having said that, idk where the best link is fir it these days - tyler’s d00m & gl00m used to be the place

anyway It’ll change yr life especially if you are lukewarm on bob

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 November 2019 16:16 (one year ago) link

I know virtually nothing about the BS System but i’m thinking I’d prob dig it

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Saturday, 2 November 2019 17:27 (one year ago) link

it’s like if you were a casual Pink Floyd observer saying well I guess I like “Another Brick in the Wall” but that “Learning To Fly” song is but naff? They seem corny.

You gotta dig!! You gotta find Bob’s ‘Meddle’, his ‘Dark Side of the Moon’ or hear his “Careful With That Ax Eugene” for the first time.

Trust me. Pink Floyd RULES just as much as Bob Seger RULES.

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 November 2019 17:38 (one year ago) link

Early Seger stuff has a shit-ton of buried treasure type tunes. Heavy Music. 2+2=?.

Οὖτις, Saturday, 2 November 2019 17:45 (one year ago) link

thanks for the rec VG

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Saturday, 2 November 2019 17:52 (one year ago) link

it's on slsk fwiw

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Saturday, 2 November 2019 17:53 (one year ago) link

Plus, Seger in his prime had an absolute switchblade voice, and you can really hear it on those early singles.

henry s, Saturday, 2 November 2019 18:12 (one year ago) link

Grade A Prime Seger


https://youtu.be/IJFVKrhKb-U

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 November 2019 18:14 (one year ago) link

xxpost yr welcome!! <3

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 November 2019 18:15 (one year ago) link

I saw him at the Garden in 2007. He/it ruled.

― shared unit of analysis (unperson)

wow, are those bob's official new pronouns?

tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Saturday, 2 November 2019 18:28 (one year ago) link

Still love that Seger released an album in January 1973 called Back in ‘72.

... (Eazy), Saturday, 2 November 2019 19:16 (one year ago) link

lol

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 2 November 2019 21:01 (one year ago) link

I always wondered if Funkadelic did any shows with those early Detroit hard rock bands like Seger, MC5 or the Stooges.

earlnash, Sunday, 3 November 2019 00:22 (one year ago) link

(article idea for writers on board)...I also thought it would be a good idea if you could get Seger and George Clinton for an interview together, that could be interesting to get their feedback on Detroit in the late 60s and early 70s. Same interview would be great if you had Iggy or maybe someone like Wayne Kramer in there too.

earlnash, Sunday, 3 November 2019 00:25 (one year ago) link

Funkadelic def played w the MC5

Οὖτις, Sunday, 3 November 2019 00:51 (one year ago) link

Soldier Field 1970: https://theconcertdatabase.com/concerts/wcfls-big-10-summer-music-festival

Οὖτις, Sunday, 3 November 2019 00:54 (one year ago) link

As killer a lineup that might be, I'd imagine this engagement was a bit less interesting than the MC5s previous Chicago gig in '68.

earlnash, Sunday, 3 November 2019 01:05 (one year ago) link

One of the Funkadelic guys introduced the Stooges to heroin at a show they shared the bill on, and I bet that was it.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 November 2019 01:06 (one year ago) link

i saw starz/rush/bob seger at the palladium in my college days. lots of rush fans left before the headliner. their loss. he/it ruled!

https://theconcertdatabase.com/sites/theconcertdatabase.com/files/1977-03-17.jpg

i also saw that blondie/iggy show. geez those were consecutive nights.

Thus Sang Freud, Sunday, 3 November 2019 01:32 (one year ago) link

idk, i think i have the tapes from the stooges and the mc5 at that show. wish the person who taped them had taped funkadelic as well...

tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Sunday, 3 November 2019 01:41 (one year ago) link

Just saw an amped story about his last show of the tour/ever (in Philadelphia, BTW). It's mentioned that he hasn't ruled out a final tour overseas, something he hasn't done since 1980.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 November 2019 02:56 (one year ago) link

Setlist:

Simplicity
Still the Same
The Fire Down Below
Mainstreet
Old Time Rock & Roll
The Fire Inside
Shame on the Moon
Roll Me Away
Come to Poppa
Her Strut
Like a Rock
You'll Accomp'ny Me
We've Got Tonight
Travelin' Man
Beautiful Loser
Sunspot Baby
Turn the Page
Forever Young
Ramblin' Gamblin' Man

Encore
Against the Wind
Hollywood Nights

The Famous Final Scene
Night Moves
Rock and Roll Never Forgets

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 November 2019 03:00 (one year ago) link

Looks like the setlist I got.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 November 2019 04:21 (one year ago) link

I think it's the same one for every show on the tour.

pplains, Sunday, 3 November 2019 16:06 (one year ago) link

I'm sure. That always surprises me, since you'd think they'd want to shake it up a little, especially since his band was given not much of note to do. A couple of times Bob got to sit down and strum a barely-audible guitar, but he did play piano a little, and I thought it would have been nice if they just left him on stage for a couple of songs to play a deep cut or two. It really would have been sweet, given the context, if instead of a full-band "Night Moves" closing the set it was just Bob and the piano by himself.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 November 2019 16:11 (one year ago) link

He was doing "Busload of Faith" (a Lou cover from the last album) at earlier dates.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 November 2019 16:24 (one year ago) link

Of course, if you knock off "Simplicity" and the Dylan cover, the set is practically his greatest hits comps track-for-track.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 November 2019 16:34 (one year ago) link

I like how he does the same "Travelin' Man/Beautiful Loser" medley as on "Live Bullet". Talk about a pair of songs joined at the hip! Can't even begin to imagine how many times I heard that medley on the radio back in the day.

henry s, Sunday, 3 November 2019 16:47 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

RIP Alto Reed :(

(from FB)

"It is with a heavy heart that we inform you of the passing of our lifelong friend and band mate, Alto Reed. Alto passed away this morning at his home with his family by his side after fighting a courageous battle with colon cancer.

Alto has been a part of our musical family, on and off stage, for nearly 50 years. I first starting playing with Alto in 1971. He was amazing – he could play just about anything…he was funky, could scat and play tenor sax and alto sax at the same time.

We worked with Alto often and when we booked our first headline arena gigs at Cobo Hall, we asked him to be a part of those shows. No doubt his iconic performance on Turn The Page helped lift us to another level. He has been with us on that stage virtually every show, ever since. And whether it was Turn The Page, Mainstreet, or Old Time Rock And Roll, audiences roared every time he played his part. In our band, Alto was the rock star.

Off stage, Alto had a passion for discovering and experiencing new things. He taught me how to sail on Biscayne Bay, we swam with the sharks (unintentionally!), and he often introduced us to local foods and restaurants he had discovered. I called him Captain. He was bolder than I was. I remember visiting him in the Miami area and I found him feeding the manatees in a lagoon behind his house. Most of us feed the seagulls, Alto fed the manatees!

Alto started a family and was a fabulous father. He helped raise two talented, beautiful, intelligent young ladies. Over the years, his passion for music, life and new adventures never diminished. We loved him like a brother and will miss forever."

- Bob Seger

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 18:23 (four months ago) link

Disappointed to learn that Alto Reed wasn't his real name.

pplains, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 18:40 (four months ago) link

lol same

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 19:18 (four months ago) link

I interviewed keyboardist Erik Deutsch once and when he told me he was married to one of Alto Reed's daughters, I demanded Bob Seger stories. (He didn't have anything really wild to share, just told me that yes, Bob Seger was at his wedding, and he was as awesome a guy as you would expect.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 19:37 (four months ago) link

Listening to Live Bullet on youtube today in memoriam. One of the records I sold pretty much as soon as punk hit, but I saw him around the time this was recorded and he was a rockin' great time. RIP Alto Reed.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 22:56 (four months ago) link

I got a ton of nostalgia tied around the big 3 w/ Night Moves, Live Bullet and The Stranger. Where I grew up, Seger was the DUDE. I can remember being a kid that period in the late 70s early 80s and just knowing all those songs, they were just everywhere. At his peak, the Silver Bullet band could outsell live show tickets against anyone in Indianapolis, bigger even than Mellancamp at his peak. He sold out 3 nights at the Hoosier Dome on the Like a Rock tour to my memory, the Stones only did two. That's something like 160,000 tickets.

Live Bullet is awesome and that line on "Turn the Page" by Alto Reed is forever epic played day round on FM radio (RIP).

earlnash, Thursday, 31 December 2020 04:27 (four months ago) link

the tone on that Turn the Page line still gives me chills

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 December 2020 04:32 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

I just watched a documentary on Muscle Shoals on Prime and fuck, does Mainstreet hit hard.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 16 April 2021 04:24 (three weeks ago) link

heh i have that doc in my watchlist but haven't checked it out yet. for the record, seger is an all-time balladeer.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 16 April 2021 04:51 (three weeks ago) link


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