The I Love Fred Anderson Thread for I Love Music

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hey jazz-lovin' ILMers, we have a few free jazz and AACM threads, but I thought I'd start a thread on Fred Anderson, just for the hell of it. Okay, mainly just because I'm listening to Dark Day right now (only complaint: seems to be mastered pretty low for something re-done in 2001). Talk about his records, time you've seen him play live, good times at the Velvet Lounge, Fitzee's Ribs, whatever...

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

does anyone have Another Place? Has that ever been reissued?

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I had a Fred phase for awhile. I like a few of the Live at the Velvet Lounge records, but I sort of developed a distaste for that style ("hey guys, let's pick a key and jam out for 20 minutes"). It can be great of course, especially when they get some good vamps or motives or Hamid is soloing, but it's sort of exhausting.

However, I did hear a track from his (new, I think?) duet album with Hamid that was sick. Hamid is Funky, and in a duet setting Fred's restraint (sticking to simple melodies and variations) really holds things down instead of seeming overly simplistic or obsessive.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Hamid is definitely one of the best drummers out there and probably deserves his own thread.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

of course, on Dark Day he's still called "Hank." Also, have you heard the Mandigot Griot Society record (am I remembering the title correctly)?

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't like the new disc. Too trancey. Back At The Velvet Lounge, on Delmark, is great, though.

I went to the Velvet one night when I was in town for other reasons. Fred wasn't playing, just tending bar. So I hung out and talked to him, Jemeel Moondoc and Chad Taylor (they were playing that night).

Fred's biggest problem is that he was obscure for so long that now that he's been discovered, he's released way too much product. Still, there are four or five CDs everybody should own:

2 Days In April (Eremite) - this one may be the greatest free jazz album of the late 1990s-early 2000s.

The Fred Anderson Quartet Vols. 1 & 2 (Asian Improv) - different bands on each volume. The band with guitarist Jeff Parker is particularly killin'.

Back At The Velvet Lounge (Delmark) - Fred's in great form, and he's got some kid trumpeter making his debut recording just blowing fire all over.

Dark Day/Live In Verona (Atavistic) - moody, beautiful. Love to hear Fred with Bill Brimfield.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

So I hung out and talked to him, Jemeel Moondoc and Chad Taylor (they were playing that night).

How recently was this? I saw Jemeel there once and it was amazing (think the recording of it came out on Eremite).

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay Fred! I just talked to him yesterday. I called him up to let him know Kevin Whitehead was gonna be reviewing the new duo disc with Hamid Drake on yesterday's "Fresh Air". Whitehead gave it a good review - made a great point about the "role reversal" that takes place when they play; Fred's playing becomes really rhythmic, while Hamid's playing gets really loose. but he closed by saying the disc had "too many tracks" or something lame like that.

Anyway, I love the guy. I've gushed elsewhere on ILM.

Which is Another Place again? Is that the Neighbors record? That was once listed in the Atavistic Unheard Music Series as an "upcoming" release over a year ago and then nothing happened. I think I asked Fred about it once and he said it was sort of up in the air whether or not it was going to come out.

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

that's the Moers one. I think it's different from the Neighbors one?

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

That is the title, but I haven't heard it. Is it super hot? Hamid is like the most African drummer ever, even when he's playing swing.

I think I might have to buy that duet record, just for all that out-in-the-open Hamid playing.

(x-posts)

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I've got the Velvet Lounge thing with Jeff Parker, it's got some great moments but I haven't listened to it in forever.

Broheems, yeah, the role reversal thing was exactly what I liked about it so much, it really brings out both of their strengths.

What about that Joe McPhee/Hamid Drake album? I always meant to hear that.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I might have to hear that duo thing too. Any of y'all in NYC? Going to Vision Fest? I think I'm gonna miss most of it, unfortunately.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

oooh man this song "The Prayer" (last one on 1st disc) is really hitting the spot.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm going to the Vision Fest tonight. Burnt Sugar's playing.

The McPhee/Drake thing (the one on Okka Disk) is great. I love Hamid; the Die Like A Dog albums (Peter Brötzmann, Toshinori Kondo or Roy Campbell, William Parker and Hamid) are fucking amazing, and their live shows are even better.

I heard not long ago that the David S. Ware quartet is gonna put out a 3-CD archival live set - with three different drummers. One disc with Whit Dickey, one disc with Susie Ibarra, and one with Hamid (he subbed for Guillermo Brown on a European tour).

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah, duh, the Moers record. Yeah, I have that - 's a good'un! I'm pretty sure it's the same band as Dark Day; it's a 4tet anyway, I'd have to double-check the personnel. I don't think that one hasn't been reissued (and I don't think it was in the pipeline for the Atavistic series.)

Oh, that trumpeter on the Back at the Velvet disc that Phil alludes to is Maurice Brown, and yeah he is outstanding. He relocated to New Orleans a couple years ago and apparently he's been blowing up big down there; he's become a real local celebrity, according to some Trib profile of him that ran about a month ago.

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I really would love go take a trip down to Chicago and go see him, but I need to see Von Freeman at the New Apartment Lounge first.

Hey, Maurice Brown...I think that guy sat in with my band in New Orleans!

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

have fun at Vision Fest, Phil. I'm going to a friend's book opening, then Fennesz/Rowe at Tonic.

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I tried to find that Tribune article on Brown, but unfortunately they've already moved it to their 'paid archive'. Crap. It probably was him though, Jordan.

Also, looking back I'm afraid I would disagree with Phil's picks. I don't know, I like all of his discs. I'm well aware of the limitations of his particular style (that burrowing a motif into the ground that Jordan alluded to), but the thing is he largely keeps recording with different groups - putting himself in different contexts - so it continues to work for me.

Anyway, I'd really need the Steve McCall duet disc (Vintage Duets), the live disc with Hamid and Marilyn Crispell (Destiny, fucking GREAT), the disc with the DKV Trio, and Missing Link, the Nessa disc which was I think the first recording released under his name (he had previously been on Jarman's Song For record, though.) But Phil is definitely spot-on in his assessment of the Eremite 2 Days in April disc; that one's a scorcher.

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

i have that Mandigo Griot Society. i spoke of it here. but i bought it because of my love of Cherry, obv

i had one Fred album and didn't care for it too much. don't remember why?

JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Missing Link is definitely excellent. I bought a copy from Fred the night I was in Chicago (along with a Velvet Lounge T-shirt); I hadn't seen it in any record stores at that point, too.

Anderson also appears on Jarman's As If It Were The Seasons, which I like better than Song For.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Fitzee's Ribs

Oh, I forgot to mention -- I had no idea until recently, but record-setting college wide receiver at Pitt, Larry Fitzgerald - just selected I think 3rd overall by the Arizona Cardinals in the NFL Draft - is the grandson of the woman that own's Fitzee's Ribs!! Is that awesome or what? There's one family that will soon be a few million dollars richer....

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought a dude owned Fitzee's, but hey that's great!

hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

well, maybe it was her husband, but I think he passed away. Anyway, she's always been the one in there when I've bought ribs, along with two of her sons. But yeah, I actually went in there to get food the Sunday after the draft, and they had a big picture of Larry on the wall. And I was like "wait, Fitzee's - Larry Fitzgerald, is he related to y'all?" Pretty neat; they were very proud and excited.

Broheems (diamond), Thursday, 27 May 2004 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw Anderson w/ Drake and Parker at the Tortoise-curated ATP a few years ago - terrific set, and he went down REALLY well w/ a youngish uk indieish who audience who weren't necessarily all au fait w/ the in, outs + intricacies of the AACM-Chicago jazzbo scene/heritage. Say what you like abt Tortoise, w/out them Anderson prob. wld never have found himself playing in an English seaside holiday camp and getting a fantastic reception for an hour-long set of uncompromising, free-ish jazz. So, erm, gd for them.

Live, the Coltrane-influence on his playing seemed more pronounced than on the recs I've heard.

Jesus that David S. Ware 3 CD set sounds mouth-watering - what w/ that and the Ayler/Revenant box I'm going to be fuckin' broke

Andrew L (Andrew L), Thursday, 27 May 2004 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
so tonight was the last ever Sunday night jam session at the Velvet Lounge...

oh, it will continue; new space has been built out, but, gah -- simply can't imagine not going to the old Velvet on Sundays anymore .... :(

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:52 (twenty years ago)

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view from the bar

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:54 (twenty years ago)

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Fred and Donna

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:55 (twenty years ago)

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the great Ernest Dawkins on the left, Jabari Liu gettin down, Isiah Spencer on drums, some other guys

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:56 (twenty years ago)

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Me and Cato

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:58 (twenty years ago)

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keyboard GENIUS roll-call : Justin Dillard and Jim Baker

Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 27 March 2006 07:59 (twenty years ago)

whoops .. i accidentallt did teh thumbnail .. here's jim and justin:

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Stormy Davis (diamond), Monday, 27 March 2006 08:01 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

Happy 80th Fred!!

Stormy Davis, Sunday, 22 March 2009 22:03 (seventeen years ago)

AACM-related birthday gigs all this week at the tiny Velvet Lounge in Chicago.

Eazy, Sunday, 22 March 2009 22:07 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

Legendary Chicago saxophonist, one of the founders of the AACM. Ran his own club, the Velvet Lounge, for decades. Instantly recognizable on the horn; once you'd heard one of his records, you could pick him out after ten seconds. He was 81. My favorites from his medium-sized discography are 2 Days in April, a double disc with Kidd Jordan on sax, William Parker on bass and Hamid Drake on drums; Dark Day/Live in Verona with Billy Brimfield on trumpet, Steven Palmore on bass and Drake again; From the River to the Ocean, with Jeff Parker on guitar, Harrison Bankhead on cello, piano and bass, Josh Abrams on bass and guimbri, and Drake again.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 25 June 2010 02:52 (fifteen years ago)

That post was supposed to be the start of a RIP thread. He died this morning.

Born In A Test Tube, Raised In A Cage (unperson), Friday, 25 June 2010 02:53 (fifteen years ago)

sadness, endless sadness

big void

farewell friend, I love you

Stormy Davis, Saturday, 26 June 2010 07:30 (fifteen years ago)

hadn't heard this - this makes me really sad - Bill Dixon, now Fred. fuck.

sknybrg, Saturday, 26 June 2010 07:38 (fifteen years ago)

:(

jaymc, Saturday, 26 June 2010 14:23 (fifteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

only just heard abt fred's passing, from a brief mention in the wire

saw him play a fantastic gig w/ a great group that included hamid drake and jeff parker, at the all tomorrow's parties curated by tortoise. the set was really well received by a surprisingly large crowd, and anderson seemed really touched and surprised by the acclaim. a happy memory that i just wanted to make note of, and mourn the loss of another great musician.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 21 July 2010 08:45 (fifteen years ago)


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