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This interesting anonymous post went up on an Oz music forum and appears to be from the link below (though it may be flying around one message board after another). I did a search on ILM a couldn't find reference to it, apologies if it's been on here already:

http://www.tymelyne.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=485

Fu-k what you've heard about the industry to now, fu-k all major record labels and fu-k all major recording artists as well, fu-k Nas, Jay, Em, Nelly, Chingy, Jermaine Dupri, Dr. Dre, Russell Simmons, The ROC, Desert Storm, R. Kelly, Fabolous, Joe Budden, all mainstream rappers I haven't mentioned. Let me tell you the real industry............

I've been signed for about 4 months now to a major label and now I wish I never started rapping, producing, or even getting into the music business, I'm going to college. You know why underground rappers never shine?? You wanna know why it's so hard to get a deal?? You wanna know why some artists can write 6-7 albums while some cats struggle to write one?? You wanna know why It's more A&R's that exists on labels than it is actual artists on the label?? You wanna know why Interscope is suppressing the whole Eminem thing??

Here Goes.......

Most cats believe they can get a deal by spittin' some sick lyrics or making some good songs, wrong. You know what labels do?? A&R's don't look for artists, not at all, Labels sign around 25 artists per decade and then freeze signings. A&R's don't go look for the next big artists, they look for hit songs and writing pools and people who can sing backup vocals. A&R's aren't worried about finding artists with star quality that have interesting backgrounds, oh no, not at all.

Here's how they do rappers.........Raping-U-Records artists are starting to get old and played out so they send an A&R out to find a punkass rapper who lives in a respectable area. Next, they make sure the artist is marketable, then they'll sign the artist. Now Rapper A has a record deal with no previous history of rapping, next the label will setup a front to make it look like they discovered the artist (might sign a kid first, then set it up to make it look like this kid was rapping in front of a crowd at a gas station where a highly known A&R just happened to be getting gas from).

Next, they'll sit down with the artist and have this reality talk to them, explaining to them that the industry is a business and none of this is real. Now, they'll overexagerate their background and even lie about their age and where they grew up, they'll push a suburban to a harder area then they're really from. They find a an angle (pop's died, parents divorced, got shot, sold drugs, friend died) and push that angle to build the artist sentimental respect (who likes a punk who lived a perfect life??). They'll use that angle to build a story around them and how that event or events affected them.

Now, they hit the studio, right?? Wrong!! Now here is what real A&R's are meant for. They'll send out their A&R's and stupid cats like me will kill to get the demo in their hands, once these A&R's have a good number of SOLICITED demo's they'll tell Rappers B, C and D to send the label some material. Rappers B, C and D think they might get a deal, so they get their demo package together with Bio, Pic's, Press Kit and the actual demo. They probably tellin' their guys that they finna get signed and ish. Wrong........

Now A&R B is at the label listening to the demos of Rapper B, C and D. A&R B doesn't care for anything but the songs. A&R B is really feeling Rapper B and D's demo's (capable hit songs) but not Rapper C. So that's when Rapper C gets the rejection letter. Now the A&R is interested in Rapper B & D's material, so they'll write them and ask them to send more material, now B & D really think they're gonna get signed.

A&R B listens again and feels as if Rapper D isn't as good as he thought he was but still feels Rapper B. Now he sends a rejection letter to Rapper D. Now the contact is made with Rapper B and a meeting is set up. Sounds lovely right?? Keep Reading....A&R B and Rapper B and a few exec's have a meeting and now Rapper B is hit with REALITY. A&R B explains the real music business and gives Rapper B a choice, either walk out that door and be forever blackballed or the alternative.

You remember Rapper A, right?? Rapper B has been hit with the reality that he will never be a star. Rapper B just sent in about 10 songs to A&R B which were purchased and now will be on Rapper A's album. Rapper B is now merely part of a writing pool, he will continue to make songs under the supervision of an A&R, only not for himself, for everyone else. Now Rapper B sends about 10-20 songs to Rapin-U-Records every 3 months and now Rapper A, Rapper X, Rapper J and Singer T go through Rapper B's material as well as the other hundred's of Rappers and Singers that are merely writing pools material and pick which song they want on their album.

Now here is where the process takes place, Rapper A chooses 3 songs from Rapper B, 4 songs from Rapper Y and 2 songs from Singer U to make an album. Rapper A might want to do his own song so the label gives Rapper A 2 slots to do his own songs. When the album is finished, starving artists in writing pools are paid off and SILENCED. Now you can read the credits and see Rapper A's name all over, but it's to fool you, the sheep, the cats who buy the albums and the stupid chickenheads that believe anything in writing.

Rapper A has candy stories and rumors started by people at the label that grow and make the Rapper more respectable, more harder and more controversial to keep the life span of Rapper A alive. Guess what?? If an A&R finds someone else who's making better songs than Rapper B, they cut him off and blackball him to keep him silenced, it's that simple, fuk what you heard and believe. Beef?? Real or fake?? Ima tell you this, more beef's in the past and present then you brainwashed muthafukaz will ever believe are fake, some are real but even then you'll believe what you want. Once Rapper A falls off (not lyrically, not songwise) marketwise, they drop them and a new era of MUSIC INDUSTRY BULLSH*T arises.

And that's just the rappers, I'm not even going to get into producing, all Ima say is that most of your respectable producers are merely NAMES, you believe PRODUCER B is ths ish?? PRODUCER B can produce, but how do you think they can produce so many hot songs at one time?? They don't, a label will send out A&R's to find clones (people who've been influenced and therefore have the same sound) of the producer and the same process as with Rapper's A, B, C and D will spark up with producers too. THINK ABOUT IT........

Why do think it took Twista and Memphis Bleek so long to come out again, huh?? Cuz they wanted to write their own albums and didn't want to fall victim, too bad that's not for most of the ROC. Why do you think Ali Vegas will probably never drop and even when he drops, watch what happens......Why do you think 50 Cent couldn't get a deal after Trackmasters?? How come the Bravehearts took so long?? And then didn't even get pushed, promoted or even have money put behind them?? Hey Chicago, where is 3Piece?? Why do you think both MTV MC Battles promised Def Jam and Roc-A-Fella Contracts but Reignman's on his own label and Wreckognize aint on the Roc?? How come Shawnna got shelved?? Why did Universal lie about Nelly's age?? Why did it take Jin some 2 and a half years to come out with a single?? Where the hell is Postaboy?? What did Mase get exposed to that made him choose God over Millions of dollars?? Cats know the truth and don't like it, it's that simple.......

How would you like it if you've been rapping since you were 7, been hustlin demos, doing meaningless talent showcases and then you finally get a deal at age 20 and now you've become Rapper B?? The industry messes people up for real and half these cats who see the Bling Bling and girls think that's all their is, it's like finding out God doesn't really exists and now I've become Rapper B.

Sh*t like this gets cats killed for real, the industry is shady and what you've seen on TV, them DVD's, in interviews, VH1, MTV, whatever is nothing but the "GHOST INDUSTRY" that you've been led to believe is how it is and none of you have any idea, I hate the music industry, I hate the entertainment business, I'm going to college, getting my degree and am leaving this is behind me, FU*K COLUMBIA RECORDS and most of all, ya'll can SU*K my D*CK. To the industry heads on here, F*CK U, go ahead, yeah, I've broken the silence, only the underground is real, FU*K the industry.......

I'm uppin this til everyone reads it, I thought I was about live out my dream and now I've been exposed to the nightmare that is the industry. I was brainwashed, now I'm not, everything I've said in this post is the truth, anything you've heard or been led to believe is bull, this post applies to all them STUDIO wankstaz.......

Cat's I know got ghostwriters and songs come from writing pools.........Fuk what you believe........

Clipse
Snoop
Nas
D-Block
Eminem
Fabolous
Biggie
Static
Joe Budden
Nelly
Mase
Chingy
Ludacris
Kanye West
Trick Daddy
Cassidy
Jay-Z
Young Gunz
Murphy Lee

And about a bunch of cats I'm too pissed to mention right now......I'm uppin this til the world blows up, think about this ish seriously and a lot of ish will start to make more sense......

-Welcome To The Real Music Industry-

the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 28 May 2004 05:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Seems a bit exagerated, but I guess I already assumed this is how it worked.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Friday, 28 May 2004 05:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I do find the topic of 'ghostwriting' interesting.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Friday, 28 May 2004 05:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Presumably the process described isn't genre specific. Does it apply to all top 40 material, with the odd exception?

the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 28 May 2004 05:38 (twenty-two years ago)

this reminds me of the first time I went to a nudie bar.

Huck, Friday, 28 May 2004 05:42 (twenty-two years ago)

In that my naivete is suddenly and brutally wiped out by a confrontation with the unvarnished reality of life?

the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 28 May 2004 05:43 (twenty-two years ago)

yes! and set to Orgy's version of "Blue Monday"! welcome to hell!

Kingfish Disraeli (Kingfish), Friday, 28 May 2004 05:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Not only do THEY not want to sleep with you, but, trust me, you don't want to sleep with them.

Huck, Friday, 28 May 2004 05:48 (twenty-two years ago)

So what he's saying is that mainstream hip-hop is as fake as WWE? Well, fuck my ass and call me a bitch! Whoda thunk it?

AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 28 May 2004 06:03 (twenty-two years ago)

There are too many crap rap artists anyway.

Sasha (sgh), Friday, 28 May 2004 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)

whats he mean by the "whol eminem thing." whats that reference to? anyone?

wt4uywtr, Friday, 28 May 2004 06:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe this can be answered by reading the whole thing, but what does the list of rappers at the end refer to?

Daniel DiMAGGIO (Daniel DiMAGGIO), Friday, 28 May 2004 06:46 (twenty-two years ago)

"What did Mase get exposed to that made him choose God over Millions of dollars??"

That line is sooo creepy.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 28 May 2004 07:16 (twenty-two years ago)

But really if this all true it's not too surprising. At the same time though I wonder if it's exaggerated. It might just be the angry ramblings of some guy who got rejected. But then again...

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 28 May 2004 07:19 (twenty-two years ago)

"whats he mean by the "whol eminem thing." whats that reference to? anyone? "

I believe that refers to the accusations of him being racist because he recorded a song criticizing a black girlfriend that dumped him in high school. a magazine with a vendetta against him (i think it's the Source, if i'm not mistaken) that is was pressing the issue and claiming that it was recorded later and eminem is really a racist, etc.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 28 May 2004 07:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Theres this thing...

A friend of mine was involved in a similar writing pool back in 1979 in the UK, knocking out "new wave pop" for a basic wage and equipment / unlimited studio time. Until, obviously, the inspiration pool ran dry. They came up with two big hits which don't have their name on, that you (if you were around, UK based, then) would go "oh REALLY?" but I obv. can't name for legal reasons...

As i said to my friend "I knew this happened, I thought it died out in the fifties"...

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 May 2004 07:40 (twenty-two years ago)

HOW DO I JOIN ONE OF THESE STUDIO POOLS?"!??!?!??!

Oh dear lord, please grant me my one wish. Let me be in a bubblegum hitz factory.

Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Lou Reid was in one of those songwriter pools, as I recall from a biography. But what's this about them not receieving any songwriting credits and royalties? That would be new, if of course it's correct.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:55 (twenty-two years ago)

(You're thinking of Neil Reid? Mother of mine, and all that?)

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 May 2004 10:06 (twenty-two years ago)

two clues
1) about how its such a digial lifetime
2) future girls love future boys

ah say no more...

(email me if you have a guess, and I mail back "wrong" or unrelated message...)

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 May 2004 10:08 (twenty-two years ago)

It must surely be disheartening not to gain credit for knocking out good pop numbers, feeling like your they don't want your nam3, just your number.

Tim (Tim), Friday, 28 May 2004 11:02 (twenty-two years ago)

It is a good think we have bands that we have tuneful bands that play real music like the DMB and Maroon 5.

Be sure to Loop! Loop, Loop, Loop. (ex machina), Friday, 28 May 2004 11:42 (twenty-two years ago)

How to get a deal: post to ILM saying you need a big break. It's very simple. (Please include your genre specialty in the subject heading.)

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 28 May 2004 11:51 (twenty-two years ago)

don't forget your phone number~

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 May 2004 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

(You're thinking of Neil Reid? Mother of mine, and all that?)

No, he means Lou Reed, who was a writer for Pickwick Records prior to the Velvets. His most well-known song from that time would be "Do the Ostich", a dance sensation no one did.

Vic Funk, Friday, 28 May 2004 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

i knowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww !

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 May 2004 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

You mean "Do the Bostitch."
http://www.waldis.ch/art/Shop_Artikel/klein/Bostitch.jpg

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 May 2004 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

And the list of names at the end? Those are "Cat's I know got ghostwriters and songs come from writing pools."

briania (briania), Friday, 28 May 2004 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

This first post is a relentless expose on par with revelations of the defecatory locations of bears and the religious proclivities of the Pope.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 May 2004 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, but my first post was a brilliant etc..

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 May 2004 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I love you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 May 2004 14:59 (twenty-two years ago)

What did Mase get exposed to that made him choose God over Millions of dollars??

Holy shit! He must have seen the zombie nazi alien queen which runs the rap game with her hypno-venom of evil!

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 28 May 2004 15:41 (twenty-two years ago)

well whatever mase saw after he chose god must have not been that great as he's back now trying to make a comeback.

thesplooge (thesplooge), Friday, 28 May 2004 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Ma$e horribly depressed to discover Big Baby Jesus really just ODB.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Friday, 28 May 2004 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Surprise!
-Sarai, etc.

God, that was lame.

??? (Francis Watlington), Friday, 28 May 2004 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I love the smell of sour defeat in the morning.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 28 May 2004 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

So I was the only one who didn't know about this? Everyone on ILM knew except me? How depressing. But I did enjoy your quiptacular quips, as always.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 28 May 2004 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I heard in baseball there's this whole evil sick thing called the minor league. I need to look into it...

But I'm glad Rapper B did his part for disclosure. If he's getting paid $5000 for a track that ends up selling a million, it's not the end of the world. Bon Jovi used to sing backups for Aldo Nova, now he's on TV!

Thanks, mole.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Friday, 28 May 2004 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha, I'm from Australia, we're a bit naive down here. But cute! We're so cute!

the music mole (colin s barrow), Friday, 28 May 2004 20:46 (twenty-two years ago)

ILM is depressing.

The Rebukes of Hazard (mjt), Saturday, 29 May 2004 05:00 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
wrrrrrr

vincent oxlade, Saturday, 10 December 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

A friend of mine was involved in a similar writing pool back in 1979 in the UK, knocking out "new wave pop" for a basic wage and equipment / unlimited studio time. Until, obviously, the inspiration pool ran dry. They came up with two big hits which don't have their name on, that you (if you were around, UK based, then) would go "oh REALLY?" but I obv. can't name for legal reasons...

-- mark grout

Oh go on!

Affectian (Affectian), Saturday, 10 December 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

At least in Country, people get their credits (even if the same thing is true with writing pools). And I always thought one of the best jobs in country music was to be a "pusher," who listens to all sorts of tapes and then pushes songs to established artists.

js (honestengine), Saturday, 10 December 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

I didn't see this when it came out. Now I know ILM already knows everything and nothing can shock ILM, but there were a couple of things in here I at least wonder about. I had already heard that a lot of hip-hop was ghostwritten, but I find surprising the suggestion that labels somehow coerce people into joining these songwriting pools. How do they do that, exactly? I mean no one can be forced to write songs without credit, so what's the deal?

*Jazz Douchebag* Berman (Hurting), Saturday, 10 December 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Maybe they string them along with promises? "In six months we're going to be looking to add an artist to our roster and you have a good shot at it" etc.

*Jazz Douchebag* Berman (Hurting), Saturday, 10 December 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

The industry's dirty little secret: rapper C is the dopest of all!

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

I guess I'm not *shocked* by this, but: Eminem? Ghost-written? Like, always or just recently? I have trouble believing that anything off Slim Shady or Marshall Mathers could have been written by anyone BUT him. Later stuff, meh.

giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

it's possible the guy was exagerrating a bit

latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Giboyeux: Hint— That's not even HIS daughter on the track...

js (honestengine), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

!!!

giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 10 December 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

NEWSFLASH, SHOCKING EXPOSÉ! Big Daddy Kane write's the Biz's raps!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 10 December 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

I don't think anyone's writing for Biggie these days.

deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

(or ever)

deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

A friend of mine was involved in a similar writing pool back in 1979 in the UK, knocking out "new wave pop" for a basic wage and equipment / unlimited studio time. Until, obviously, the inspiration pool ran dry. They came up with two big hits which don't have their name on, that you (if you were around, UK based, then) would go "oh REALLY?" but I obv. can't name for legal reasons...

-- mark grout

Oh go on!

-- Affectian (niche_ia...) (webmail), December 10th, 2005 1:59 PM.

Yeah, at least give us a few hints as to who it might be.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't Jay-Z a ghostwriter himself?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

He did some writing previously but had paid credit on Dr. Dre's 2001 album. Then again, I don't think anyone's ever pretended Dre writes lyrics..

mike h. (mike h.), Saturday, 10 December 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

I distinctly recall Dr. Dre praising early Jay-Z's ghostwriting in a recent interview ("he got all the West Coast shit right, like rocking khakis with a crease" etc).

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 10 December 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

jay did some writing for the first foxy album too (credited, again).

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 10 December 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

lots of gotti produced tracks were apparently done by a ghostwriter though, which when you think about how many difft. styles he's gone thru and their apparent unrelatedness, makes a lot of sense.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 10 December 2005 23:19 (twenty years ago)

Pharrell and Neptunes Accused Of 'Cloning' Beats

walter kranz (walterkranz), Saturday, 10 December 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

No but seriously, has anyone here ever actually heard the suggestion that rappers were coerced into ghostwriting?

*Jazz Douchebag* Berman (Hurting), Saturday, 10 December 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure how to work him into this discussion exactly, but Skillz to thread.

deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 10 December 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

if this is true, it would explain why undergroup rap tends to suck so badly. that is, no-one's in the loop to weed out the self-indulgent, wack rhymes and weak beats that would get buried in a writer's pool.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 11 December 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...
I WANT A RECORD DEAL

BHDATDEAL, Friday, 5 May 2006 17:49 (twenty years ago)

ARE YOU RAPPER A, B, C, OR D? WE CAN READ YOUR FUTURE.

lf (lfam), Friday, 5 May 2006 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone have a working link to the mp3 for that supposed Neptunes theft thing?

Cee Bee (Cee Bee), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:23 (twenty years ago)

The people whose stories I most want to hear here are Rapper Y and Singer U, who are as far as I know content with their career at this point. Are they any good? S/D, C/D etc. Also, TS: Rapper B vs. Rapper D.

Seriously, though, professional songwriting, including rap lyrics, wouldn't be bad work if you could get it and keep it. The part that remains totally obscure, as several people have observed, (maybe it's addressed on the original forum post this links to?) is how someone gets "blackballed" into staying with the pool. That sounds pretty made up to me.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 6 May 2006 04:12 (twenty years ago)

Well, say your rhymes then. (xpost)

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Saturday, 6 May 2006 04:17 (twenty years ago)

is the original post just not the same old tired albini major label rant put through some rapifying internet translator? music industry = corrupt pile of wank. world grinds to halt/shrugs shoulders.

simon 803 (simon 803), Saturday, 6 May 2006 07:34 (twenty years ago)

fuk this dick head tryin to make a name for him self he's just mad at da game cause he didn't make it

questshion, Saturday, 6 May 2006 09:28 (twenty years ago)

I gotta give a blow for rapper B do his thing.Thanx for the warning outlook for all peeps tranna get a record.i new sum messed up shit was up in this bitch, ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY.SO y'all out there watch out for whatchu yo blessed with coz sum fuckers will tranna fool witcho talent.Thanx again 2 rapper be, i really needed to fill with this infor, coz im one o them tranna touch the sky, i gotta whatch for spys full of lies(muthaf*** entertainment industry)F*** THIS S***

Beautiful, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:03 (twenty years ago)

Fuck this fuckass, if he was really bad @this game and u was in touch with the entertainment industries,FUCKA, YO ASS WOULD BE SOMEWHERE RIGHT NOW, i guess u rap like a CONFUSED MUTHAFUKEN COCKROACH MAYBE A DONKEY WHO LOST HIS BALLS, DICKHEAD.THIS IS FOR U Rapper B

FREELYF, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:18 (twenty years ago)

A my nigga, I feels u.
Des' mu'fuckin' lame ass niggaz iz buggin' an' fake ass hell.
holla.

King ZN of DRG, Friday, 19 May 2006 20:51 (twenty years ago)

I am going to take over the rap industry.
When I put it in a choke hold I may let it breathe just enough
to say nine words: Who are you and where did you come from?

JARED, Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:56 (twenty years ago)

No news it works like this in certain aspects of mainstream pop, but I did indeed believe that rappers wrote their own lyrics.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 25 May 2006 23:05 (twenty years ago)

Geir, you believe a lot about rappers.

grady (grady), Friday, 26 May 2006 00:38 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Clipse's Hell Hath No Fury Actually Being Released

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/Clipses_Hell_Hath_No_Fury_Actually_Being_R#37640

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Friday, 28 July 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

but, honestly, isn't this pretty much accepted practice in damn near every genre?

pop/hip-hop/rap?
probably to some degrees- metal/emo/indie...

edde (edde), Friday, 28 July 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

EMO SONGS ARE WRITTEN BY THE COLLECTIVE SOUL OF THE GENERATION

like murderinging (modestmickey), Friday, 28 July 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

if collective soul wrote emo songs they'd be even worse... if that's possible.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 28 July 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

How many of the "linguists" above are really white college boys?

section 241 (section241), Friday, 28 July 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

I wish there was some Brill Building office cranking out songs for emo bands, they wouldn't suck half as bad. New plan: get the caged, blackballed rappers B through M to write for Saves the Day. Everybody wins.

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 28 July 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)


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