TOTP 2 Miscellanea

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Isn't TOTP 2 great? Last night, for example :

Cilla Black - Surround Yourself With Sorrow. What a fecking great recd. I'd really forgotten this one.

Heavy Metal Kids - She's No Angel. Only a few weeks away from punk's explosion, but the backing band still had bubble perms. Gaz looked the part though. Great Moog solo. Who WAS the bass player - he looked v. familiar?

Genesis - Paperlate. (My Daughter aged 9 : why write a pop song about your newspaper being late?) Wasn't Genesis's 'pop' period wierd? Ruthers and Banks look vaguely guilty about being caught on TOTP having 'fun'. Collins looks like an arse with his braces on. I quite like this.

Siouxsie - Happy House. (Woa-oh!) Grebt, just grebt.

Lets talk. Off to meeting now, back in 30 mins.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 28 May 2004 08:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I love having this on, whenever we're in (missed this one) as the kids always pick up on things they like that I wouldn't automatically suspect... Alice (4) was dancing psychedelically to "She sells sanctuary" the other day...

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 May 2004 08:09 (twenty-two years ago)

What about Steve Wright's penchant for playing god-awful nu country at the end of every show. And it was funnier when it was written by Stuart Maconie (or was it Andrew Collins) (grumble mutter can remember when it was all fields grumble mutter)

ledge (ledge), Friday, 28 May 2004 08:11 (twenty-two years ago)

i caught Legs'n'Co/Pans People dancing to Lene Lovich Say When - weird visuals, grebt grebt song

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 28 May 2004 08:16 (twenty-two years ago)

It's cool when they keep the godawful nucountry to the end, as you can turn over without fear of missing the Dr Feelgood when they were great snippet...

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 May 2004 08:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Bassist with Heavy Metal Kids was one Ronnie Thomas, who doesn't seem to have done anything else of note thereafter.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 28 May 2004 08:34 (twenty-two years ago)

No. He looks like someone though. Actually I've just remembered who - Len Tuckey (great name) of Suzi Quatro fame.

God I love Pan's People.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 28 May 2004 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

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"Who WAS the bass player - he looked v. familiar?"

The bass player was Ronnie Thomas - no idea why he'd look familiar; are you sure it wasn't the keyboard player, John Sinclair, who looked familiar Doc?

He's also played with Black Sabbath, The Cult, The Enid, Grace Jones, Ozzy Osbourne and Savoy Brown (as did HMK drummer Keith Boyce and guitarist Barry Paul), was a member of Uriah Heep and Buggles and most importantly he was actually the keyboard player on This Is Spinal Tap!

As for TOTP2 itself: I have been left with permanent scarring on two separate occasions after tripping over furniture in a desperate bid to get to the remote to turn the sound up for TOTP2 - once was for The Adverts' Gary Gilmore's Eyes the other was for The Vibrators' Automatic Lover.

Both fantastic performances which got the adrenalin pumping back in '77 / '78 when they were first shown and I thought I'd never see again - but which I discovered painfully were still capable of making me want to pogo 'round the living room like an imbecile a quarter of a century later.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 28 May 2004 08:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish, however, they would keep the original DJ links - the ghastly, ashen look on Tony Blackburn's face following the performance of "Gary Gilmore's Eyes" is an immortal piece of television.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 28 May 2004 09:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember my world changing experience was seeing Eddie and the Hot Rods doing "Get out of Denver" mid 1976 or so. I went straight out and got the e.p. (twice the price of a single) the next day... (never went back to showadywaddy or etc)

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:11 (twenty-two years ago)

ledge i was just goin to say that. maconie used 2 write it before wright thought 'heckfire *i* can do this'. only he can't. controversial point, but maconie's something of a class writer.
he's one of the *funniest* music writers of the past 10 years.
i must get his booh ('cider with roadies') which was in M ZONE for tuppence ha'penny.

piscesboy, Friday, 28 May 2004 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, yes, yes!! He was VIV SAVAGE!! Stew - you are a hero!

Two nights ago. The Move's California Man - I remember seeing this in 71 - it was my last year in junior school. We went swimming on the friday morning and always talked about TOTP. I remember us being highly entertained by the double-bass player who realized the camera was on him and decided to erm...'go mad'. So he lay down with the bass on top of him, kicked his legs a bit and then painfully obv. *didn't really know what else what to do*, so slowly sort of struggled out from underneath it. Jeff Lynne was playing KEYBOARDS! and Roy Wood was playing SAX! There was no guitar player evident, but all the usual brum beat suspects - Rick Price, Bev Bevan and loads of fat ape-like blokes who looked EXACTLY LIKE ROY WOOD were all present and correct. I didn't know any of this in 1971, but I liked the record. In thought I'd never see that clip again. Where have the years gone OMG.

Stew - yes the punk and new wave clips are fucking exhilarating. Haha - yes, Backburn et al really hated punk acts on TOTP.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:15 (twenty-two years ago)

*Blackburn.*

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:15 (twenty-two years ago)

*what else to do*

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:16 (twenty-two years ago)

ere, has the Saints appearance ever been repeated?

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)

[nervous punters may have noticed that I am in *nostalgia speedfreak mode* (with no speed, just nostalgia). Watch out.]

I don't think so Mark.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I love the randomness and lack of agenda of the choices on TOTP2.
Dire obscurities that surely no-one has any fond memories of, well known people but from 10 years past their peak, the novelty hits

I liked it when they got guest presenters to show their chosen picks, and I certainly enjoyed more of the music that they played, but I'm glad they generally resist the temptation to show 'the classics' all the time.

MikeB, Friday, 28 May 2004 09:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, "This Perfect Day" has been on TOTP2. So has the greatest TOTP performance ever - Robert Wyatt with his backing band, all in wheelchairs, giving the camera the skunk eye as he sings "I'm A Believer" (1974).

Naff TOTP performance which I do not think has been rescreened yet: Shakin' Stevens trying to go Hi-NRG in 1987 ("A Little Boogie Woogie In The Back Of My Mind"). Four butch dancers in binliners cavort at the back of the stage while Shakin' "Shaky" Stevens just does his usual schtick regardless.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 28 May 2004 09:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish, however, they would keep the original DJ links - the ghastly, ashen look on Tony Blackburn's face following the performance of "Gary Gilmore's Eyes" is an immortal piece of television.

I am going to inundate the BBC with nuisance mail until THEY SHOW THIS!

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, "This Perfect Day" has been on TOTP2.

Sad growls. Oh well, now I await the BBC3 repeat...

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:40 (twenty-two years ago)

A few weeks back - Family doing "In My Own Time". One of the weirdest hit singles of all time performed by one of the ugliest bands of all time.

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Sham 69, Hurry Up Harry (or should that be 'urry up 'arry)... "We're going down the pub!!!" as 16 yr olds look on bemused. Bemused 16 yr olds seems to be a theme of the show in fact. "The Streak"... man that's a bad song.

ledge (ledge), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm devastated I missed 'Happy House'

stevem (blueski), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:43 (twenty-two years ago)

"The Streak" - abso-lute-ly dire

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:44 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean i think i've seen 'Hey Matthew' about 5 times on this show

stevem (blueski), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Guy Marks - "Loving You Has Made Me Bananas"

This I want to see.

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Re: 'Hey Matthew' ...didn't they play a different Karel Fialka one the other evening just to vex people? That guy looked weird... who the hell was he?

NickB (NickB), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:48 (twenty-two years ago)

"The eyes have it" ?

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I want to see King Crimson performing "Cat Food" on TOTP in 1970 (Greg Lake singing, Keith Tippett on piano) but suspect it probably got wiped in about 1975 so that the tape could be used for How To Train Your Dog To Piss In The Garden or similar.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 28 May 2004 09:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"I am going to inundate the BBC with nuisance mail until THEY SHOW THIS!"

They might do it y'know - they did include Bob Harris sneeringly dismissing NY Dolls as "mock rock" on the OGWT DVD!

I'm just hoping that a future release is going to include "The Light Pours Of Me", followed by him explaining that Magazine have been ".... described by some people (I'd have loved to have been able to challenge him to name one of them btw!) "as New Wave intellectual...." before muttering something barely audible under his breath about "a contradiction in terms".

Tosser.

As for Blackburn, do you remember how he used to slag off reggae - starting to play a reggae version of something on the radio then pulling it off after a few seconds to replace it by a version of someone else playing the same song (as he considered it) "properly"?

Tosser.

No wonder my initial reaction is still to assume that all radio DJ's are arrogant, obnoxious, opinionated, self-obsessed areseheads with no real interest in music.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I've heard tell of The Groundhogs doing "Cherry Red" on TOTP. I think they used to have an "album spot" so that older siblings could watch an entire TOTP and stop sneering for three minutes or so before resuming again. Of course, these will be the parts that have been wiped.

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw the Guy Marks clip last week. Oh Christ.

I want to see Sailor. And (Noosha) Fox. s-s-s-single bed.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 28 May 2004 09:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Sailor were on a few weeks back. The double keyboard with Phil Pickett giving it the full Colin Hunt "I'M MAD ME" routine.

I somehow dread the prospect of seeing Noosha Fox as she is now.

Apropos DJs being twats:

DLT back-announcing "Complete Control" by the Clash on the Top 40 rundown, Tuesday lunchtime, sometime in late '77:

"Well! I thought that was a comPLETE and UTTER PILE of CRAP! But YOU bought it! YOU made it the highest new entry at number 12!"

all through clenched teeth.

Blackburn back-announcing "Flowers Of Romance" by PiL on the Top 40 rundown, Sunday teatime, sometime in spring '81:

"Yes that was Public Image Limited. And now here's some music."

Peter Powell back-announcing "Jack Your Body" by Steve "Silk" Hurley on the Top 40 rundown, Tuesday teatime, the day it went to number one, January '87:

"This is the end of music. Why don't they just set up a separate chart for...all...these...talentless...gibbons...and leave the REAL chart for REAL artists and REAL bands who are trying to make a living? Thank you."

He left Radio 1 shortly thereafter.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 28 May 2004 10:02 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp/whos_on/

There's a nice 'search' on here, where you can put an artist and it shows their TOTP appearences, what song, when, who the dj/announcer/introducer was, and wether or not its in the archives.

I can't get it to work here, you might have better luck...

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 May 2004 10:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Blackburn back-announcing "Flowers Of Romance" by PiL on the Top 40 rundown, Sunday teatime, sometime in spring '81:

"Yes that was Public Image Limited. And now here's some music."

That's quite funny tho, depending on how it was delivered and how good Blackburn's comic timing is etc

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 28 May 2004 10:07 (twenty-two years ago)

what i wouldnt give to hear that peter powell outburst.
fantastic.

piscesboy, Friday, 28 May 2004 10:08 (twenty-two years ago)

And (Noosha) Fox. s-s-s-single bed.
Dr C - are you reading the million love songs blog?

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 28 May 2004 10:11 (twenty-two years ago)

No, Alang. But I will!

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 28 May 2004 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember when DLT had the breakfast show and did the rundown of the top 40 the following day. The UK Subs and Motorhead's impeccable Ace of Spades were new entries and he didn't play them as 'they were a bit too noisy for this time of the morning'.

He later redeemed himself slightly by being instrumental in making tease me by Chaka Demus and Pliers a hit. He still should have been pensioned off years before though.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 28 May 2004 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

What price, a DVD compiling the punk/new wave stuff, with the original introductions/outtroductions and a 'pop' noise between tracks?

(I don't actually have one, btw)

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 28 May 2004 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)

As I think I said on my Resonance FM programme about a year back, DLT rather surprisingly championed both "Papa's Got A Brand New Pigbag" and "Me No Pop I" - probably the two hippest singles of the summer of '81 - until they charted.

Marcello Carlin, Friday, 28 May 2004 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)

was DLT the man behind "Tease Me"? that would have been immediately before he left Radio 1 (summer '93). "good record, that" as Dale Winton would probably say.

by the time of "Jack Your Body" Powell had been sent to fester at weekend breakfast (the usual home for Radio 1 DJs in decline pre-Bannister; successively from 1980-93 it was Blackburn, Powell, Brookes, Davies) and was only back on the teatime show sitting in for Bruno Brookes - at the same time Tommy Vance made a welcome return to the Sunday-afternoon Top 40. if he did indeed refer to "gibbons" i suspect he was trying to convince Marmaduke Hussey that he was On His Side and that, yes, he did want Alasdair Milne out even though he was one of those nasty "pop" johnnies. or had Milne already "resigned" (ha bloody ha) by 20th January?

robin carmody (robin carmody), Friday, 28 May 2004 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

oddly enough the most cumbersomely-named TV channel of all time, UKTV G2, is currently showing episodes of TOTP2 from 1997, when Wright was less irritating and the captions more informative, not least because they were written by Richard Easter, a former member of Wright's R1 "posse" who actually knew something about music. the captions back then actually used to identify the exact date of the performance and the chart position of the song that week (not necessarily the peak position), the sort of thing my anorak side loves.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Friday, 28 May 2004 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
may i correct myself (and mark ILM's return in the process): Alasdair Milne was sacked as director-general on Thursday 29th January 1987 (exactly the same date and day as Greg Dyke seventeen years later). so no doubt Peter Powell was trying to convince Marmaduke Hussey that he was One Of Us, as Hussey would have seen it, rather than One Of Them.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Friday, 16 July 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway - TOTP2 has been given the old knifehand chop by BBC2's new boss. Which is a bit of a bugger - sure, Wright may well have got annoying and the captions lost it, and those celebrity specials... brrr... but still, the sheer depth of material they had to draw on (considering they regularly took stuff from places other than TOTP) and the generally scattergun compiling procedure really did make quite fascinating watching. But no, more episodes of 'Fuck Off To The Continent And Take Your Bloody Family With You' it is, then.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 16 July 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Alasdair Milne was sacked as director-general on Thursday 29th January 1987 (exactly the same date and day as Greg Dyke seventeen years later)

Mr Carmody, you're scaring me now.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 17 July 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

you mean because i am a SCARY ANORAK, Alba??? "anorak" is quite accurate, but "scary"? in the flesh, i doubt whether i have ever been anything of the kind ...

robin carmody (robin carmody), Saturday, 17 July 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Just joking. Keep it up!

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 17 July 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

ah, thanks. i think i know you. you're not dadaismus, are you?

robin carmody (robin carmody), Saturday, 17 July 2004 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)


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