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Jazz! The Entire Genre: Search and Destroy!
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Bring me the Severed Head of Kenny G!

― Lord Custos, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You can, if you are truly ambitious, list the greatest album from each era: Swing, Hot Jazz, Cool Jazz, BeBop, Free, Funk & Fusion.

― Lord Custos, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Will this whole thread be centered?

― Jeff, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yes.

Er, I mean, no.

Anyway... best jazz album is clearly either Dolphy's Out To Lunch or Oliver Nelson's The Blues and Abstract Truth.

― Sterling Clover, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wonderful.

So, greatest jazz album ever. I tried to so something similar a few weeks ago, but limited myself to the 10 greatest jazz albums. Needless to say I found it nearly impossible, but my usual favorite is Charles Mingus's Pithecanthropus Erectus.

― Jeff, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Search all these too:

Coltrane: Giant Steps
Ornette Coleman: Shape of Jazz to Come
Eric Dolphy: Out To Lunch
Monk: Brilliant Corners
Thad Jones/Mel Lewis: Consummation
Art Blakey and the Jazz Messengers: Caravan
Dave Brubeck: Time Out
Bill Evans Trio: Sunday At The Village Vanguard
Coltrane: A Love Supreme
Billie Holiday: Lady Sings The Blues
Duke Ellington Black, Brown & Beige
Rahsaan Roland Kirk: We Free Kings
Miles Davis: Kind Of Blue
Wayne Shorter: Juju
Pat Metheny: Bright Size Life

― Jeff, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Your threads are beginning to annoy me Custos.

― David Gunnip, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My fairly jazz-ignorant pick is A Love Supreme; it's perfect. Then In a Silent Way. And Lee Morgan's The Sidewinder.

― M. Matos, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Art Pepper - ... Meets the Rhythm Section
Alice Coltrane - Journey in Satchidananda
Alice Coltrane - Ptah, the El-Daoud
John Mayer Joe Harriott Double Quintet - Indo-Jazz Fusions 1 and 2
Horace Silver - Song for My Father
Herbie Mann - At the Village Gate
Arthur Lyman - Leis of Jazz
Modern Jazz Quartet - Space
Nat King Cole Trio
Gary Burton/Carla Bley - A Genuine Tong Funeral
Lester Young Trio - s/t [with Nat King Cole and Buddy Rich]

― m jemmeson, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's all about Money Jungle!!

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't know DICK about jazz, but I'll cite:

TIME OUT by Dave Brubeck

― Alex in NYC, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I heard the craziest thing on the subway platform yesterday. A steel drummer was playing "Moonlight Sonata", with over-the-top dynamics and phrasing, super-cheesy; I walked down toward the other end of the platform and as I walked he subtly transformed what he was playing into the Brubeck classic you mention. It was seamless and sneaky and beautiful; the two songs are really quite similar.

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

miles davis.. bitches brew...
" " .. on the corner...
Youseff lateff .. eastern sounds...
ermmm Theres some great horace silver albums around but i cant remember what they're called..

― jk, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

mingus .. ahh um ../

― jk, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sorry about the centering glitch. I'm not fluent in HTML...yet.

― Lord Custos, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't know half as much about this stuff as the other Jeff, but I'm glad he put 'Giant Steps' first, or rather second, on his list.

I also love 'Saxophone Colossus' by Sonny Rollins

Also 'Miles Ahead' is my favourite Miles Davis record.

― Jeff, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Machine Gun", if that counts as jazz. Actually that gets pretty boring after about two minutes, but the opening riff is startling every time I hear it.

― Kris, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Your threads are beginning to annoy me Custos.

Hey, I only said Kenny G's severed head because I didn't think anyone would mind if he got kacked.
If you're a fan, I'm sorry. (Not sorry that your offended. Just sorry that you're a fan.)

― Lord Custos, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

There is nothing wrong with kenny g if you like souless smooth jazz. Technically he is a phenominal sax player, but goddamn he bores me.

― Jeff, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

strike phenominal, and we'll just say above average.

― Jeff, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The one I've listened to the most: the first News for Lulu album, which is just unbelievably original, especially considering they didn't write any of it...

The one I've listened to less but think is flippin' incredible: Ornette Coleman's _Ornette!_

The cheating answer: John Coltrane's _The Heavyweight Champion_.

The one nobody knows about and I can't believe how much fun it is: Clusone 3's _Rara Avis_.

― Douglas, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ah um & money jungle are hard to beat (and mingus' autobiography "beneath the underdog" is a great read too)

monk - mysterioso

johnny mandel & gerry mulligan - i want to live s/t

getz & gilberto

blue note's "blue juice" & "blue breakbeats" compilation series john zorn - filmworks

― fritz, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My greatest(s):

Gerry Mulligan Meets Ben Webster
Miles Davis - Quiet Nights
The Sound of Sonny
John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman
Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else
Getz/Gilberto

among others..

― g, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Right now my favorite is The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady. There are way too many great jazz albums to pick a best obviously. When I'm finished listening to this, I shall put on Journey to Satchidananda.

― Melissa W, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Miles Davis - Miles Smiles
Coltrane - Interstellar Space
Mingus - something with Eric Dolphy
Albert Ayler - Spiritual Unity
Thelonius Monk - Brilliant Corners

― James Annett, Thursday, 15 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

First and foremost has to be "Escalator Over The Hill" by Carla Bley, which is of course the greatest record made by anyone ever, and I usually keep at least 5-6 copies at hand in case of fires, floods, Doompatrol etc. As David Vine says (or said?) on "Ski Sunday" - that's the one they'll all have to beat.

Others:-

Chris McGregor's Brotherhood of Breath - s/t 1st album

Gil Evans - There Comes A Time

John Zorn - Big Gundown

Brotzmann/Kondo/Parker/Drake - Die Like A Dog

Mingus - Oh Yeah

Ornette - Science Fiction

Mike Westbrook - Marching Song

Louis Moholo Octet - Spirits Rejoice

Stan Tracey - Under Milk Wood ('65 version with Wellins)

Keith Tippett's Ark - Frames

Isipingo - Family Affair

Barry Guy/LJCO - Ode

Larry Young - Lawrence Of Newark

Michael Mantler/Jazz Composer's Orch - Communications (Taylor, Cherry, Rudd, Sanders et al)

Archie Shepp - On This Night

Cecil Taylor - Unit Structures

Miles - Jack Johnson

Oxley - Four Compositions . . .

Sonny Sharrock - Black Woman

Blue Notes - Blue Notes For Mongezi

Mike Osborne Trio - Border Crossing

Kenny Wheeler - Song For Someone

Anthony Braxton - Montreux/Berlin Concerts

Globe Unity - Jahmarkt/Local Fair

Joe Harriott - Abstract

Tubby Hayes - 200% Proof

Bill Evans/George Russell - Living Time

Spontaneous Music Ensemble - Oliv (esp. side 2 - Gomelski, hurry up and get this out on CD! Or let Martin Davidson put it out on Emanem).

Deliberately large proportion of Brit stuff for purposes of balance - if Josh still reads these boards, please investigate without delay; meanwhile I'm sure Andrew L will agree with most of my list. Tho' probably not Mark S.

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i think the problem with your threads, Lord Custos, is that they are very.... [drumroll, prepare for worst ILM insult possible]

ROCKIST!

― m jemmeson, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

has Larry Young - Lawrence Of Newark been reissued yet, or what?

still working on my own list, but know that the black saint and the sinner lady, evan parker's saxophone solos, and sextant are near the top.

― jess, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

as is louis armstrong's broken tag rag
― jess, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dammit, somebody's mentioned 'Out to Lunch' already!
― dave q, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

― Melissa W, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Q: What did Kenny G say when he stepped onto the elevator?
A: "This place ROCKS!"

It's been mentioned, but I'll mention it again - "We Free Kings" Rahsaan Roland Kirk.

OK, a jazz anecdote: (As told by Ed Hammel)
A guy was walking down the street, past a jazz club. Up on the roof, in Beatles' fashion, a group of musicians had gathered for a jam session. About the time the guy's walking by, the sax player (piture a guy who looks like Bleeding Gums Murphy) launches into an incredible, soulful solo. As the intensity builds, the sax player climbs up on to the ledge of the roof, never missing a note. As he continues to play, pacing back and forth, the crowd below is mesmerized by his solo. Suddenly, the sax player trips and stumbles off the ledge. He falls toward the ground, but he hits the awning over the front door, which bounces him over to a flatbed truck, that for some reason, is carrying a load of matresses. He lands safely on the mattresses - all the while, still playing his solo! He climbs down off the truck, walks into the building and back up to the roof as he completes his solo and the crowd goes wild. The passerby turns to the guy next to him and says in awe, "That's the luckiest fucking sax player in the world!"

"No" the guy replies, "Kenny G is the luckiest fucking sax player in the world."

Thank you, Thank you. I'm here all week. Remember to tip your waitresses.

― Dave225, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Lawrence of Newark reissued on CD about a month ago.

― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I suspect the lord is trying to build a classy collection. Hence he gets us to tell him the highlights of everything, then he's got the best rap, the best jazz, so on. But the best without the rest will feel hollow. There's no thrill.

― Sterling Clover, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the lord could also be like me in that he just likes reading musical lists. some people read people magazine; i read music top 10s, 50s, 100s, etc. they're both mindless entertainment of one sort or another. (that said i do use them for a consumer guide. for instance i'll be looking for some of mssr. carlin's picks tonite.)

― jess, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Or you can tell by 90% of someone's list if the 10% you've never heard of is worth checking out.

― Dave225, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i think the problem with your threads, Lord Custos, is that they are very.... [drumroll, prepare for worst ILM insult possible] ROCKIST!

Mr jemmeson, you are obviously using a definition of the word Rockist that is completely alien to what its supposed to mean. Calling me "rockist" would be like calling your local rabbi an Anti-Semite. Two points to consider:
a) Rockist, as I understand the word, refers to someone who smugly thinks that rock is better than every other genre of music; and generally has very narrow and blinkered tastes. If I were a rockist, I wouldn't have bothered with posting a Jazz thread at all. Jazz wouldn't even exist for a Rockist.
b) Rockist is a useless nonsense word, invented by smug critics so they can "handwave" away any "mainstreamist" who doesn't agree with their hip/indie/obscure fave raves. It's like Dogbert saying "You think Led Zeppelin is better than the Young Marble Giants? BAH! Get thee behind me, Rockist scum."

By the way, a "Search and Destroy" thread doesn't mean "Hunt Down and Kill" it means "Find This and Flee from That"
My question means which Jazz albums should I go look for, and which should I avoid like the Anthrax.

― Lord Custos, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Okay, to prevent being misunderstood twice in one day, I mean the disease called Anthrax, not the band called Anthrax.

― Lord Custos, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Rockist = useful critical term. Means authenticist set of values & lionization of cannon. Whole notion of "best" is rockist. Sometimes rockism is good, in moderation, but it isn't a slander, and it doesn't devolve solely to "rock" music.

― Sterling Clover, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

what sterl said. i guess it originated pretty much from lord custos definition, and has gradually morphed into classicist/authenticist?

― gareth, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

anyway, i'm not a huge jazz fan, and this list is going to prove pretty useful to me also.

i'd have to mention Shamek Farrah's First Impressions though. i like that LP, bu am unaware of its critical reception, or indeed what anyone else thinks of it

― gareth, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

YES! YES! YES! EXACTLY!

I've been building a monster wishlist for over a decade. I made a massive spreadsheet that condenses a 4 foot high stack of record review guides into something roughly thirty pages long. But even more importantly, any time someone recommends an album, I either add it to the list (if its not there already) or "add a vote" (to ones that are already there.) I've been collecting votes since (around)1987. But I've noticed that some genres are "more obscure", so I shot out these threads to give Reggae and Jazz a fair chance.
But I guess the dearth of Reggae or Jazz votes means all my friends are...ROCKISTS....

― Lord Custos, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If you can find them (they're out of print), MVP's Roots of Jazz Funk vols. 1 & 2 are DYNAMITE collections of post-bop classics. Just killer top to bottom, tunes tunes tunes, like that.

It's also hard to think a more enjoyable album in any category than Ornette Coleman's Dancing in Your Head. And I heartily second Thelonious Monk's Misterioso (on Fantasy, not the Columbia one).

― M. Matos, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i go to the pub at lunchtime (and admittedly stay there until 7pm...) and come back and find all hell breaking loose...

a) Rockist is a comedy insult round these parts
b) i *do* understand what S & D threads are (i posted a list of some of my jazz favourites earlier in the thread)
c) it was the way of looking at music (best album of the 70s etc etc) that was starting to get a bit annoying, and what someone high up in the thread was getting at, i think. it reminds me of those lists of 100 best albums ever etc, which i think is a very rock orientated way of looking at music (whether or not the music in question is rock). it omits singles, DJs and the club scene (people *do* still dance to jazz, you know) etc, and turns music into a solely armchair occupation

i hope that made sense, cos i'm drunk

― michael, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

for comedy instults nothing beats "cockfarmer" except possibly "spankmonkey". I've always been a fan of "rump-ranger" myself.

― Lord Custos, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Does Derek and the Ruins count?

― dave q, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

no way is spankmonkey better than cockfarmer!

― michael, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Cockfarming Rumpranger: Classic or Dud?

― Lord Custos, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Or howsabout Rumpranging Cockfarmer with a mouth fulla monkeyspank!?

― Lord Custos, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

*vvvvvvvvvvrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmKKKKKWKKKCSHHHSHHH!*
(Sound of highbrow Jazz thread crashing to the ground and becoming a stream of lewd posts about bodily fluids and penile agriculture.)

Okay...enough horsing about, lets get back to Jazz.

― Lord Custos, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ok, to make you penniless, Lord Custos, add the following to your huge list:

Louis Armstrong Hot Fives and Hot Sevens (4cd set)
Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage, Thrust, Headhunters, Sextant, Crossings, Manchild, The Prisoner etc
Billie Holiday - all the 1950s albums
Wayne Shorter - Speak No Evil
John Patton - Accent on the Blues
Harold Land - The Fox
Sabu Martinez - Sorcery!, Jazz Espagnole, Afro-Temple, Palo Congo
Roland Kirk - Rip Rig and Panic
Herbie Mann - Stone Flute, Impressions of the Middle East
Gabor Szabo - The Sorcerer
Neil Ardley - Kaleidoscope of Rainbows

― michael, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I don't know about best-ever, but here are some of my favorites:

Art Blakey, "Moanin'" Charles Mingus, "Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus" (Mingi!) Miles Davis "Filles de Kilimanjaro" and everything else Coltrane "Crescent" and everything else Clifford Brown and Max Roach, self-titled and "Study in Brown" Ben Perowsky Trio, self-titled

Gary Burton, "Like Minds", 'all-star' group interplay that's so perfect it's sickening

Larry Goldings, "Whatever It Takes", mix of straight-ahead and funk that I keep coming back to

Dave Holland Quintet, "Prime Directive", another group that's just too fucking good for their own good

Kenny Garrett, "Songbook", the Kenny Kirkland/'Tain' Watts rhythm section is on FIRE

Christian McBride, 'Family Affair', great group and great mix of funky/swinging/pretty/out tunes.

Charlie Parker, "Bird's Best Bop on Verve", have to go back to the (bebop) roots

Matt Wilson, "As Wave Follows Wave"

et al

― Jordan, Friday, 16 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

ok, to make you penniless, Lord Custos, add the following to your huge list:

Louis Armstrong Hot Fives and Hot Sevens (4cd set)

Its already there
Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage, Thrust, Headhunters, Sextant, Crossings, Manchild, The Prisoner etc
Maiden Voyage and Sextant already made it. Billie Holiday - all the 1950s albums
Wayne Shorter - Speak No Evil
John Patton - Accent on the Blues
Harold Land - The Fox
Sabu Martinez - Sorcery!, Jazz Espagnole, Afro-Temple, Palo Congo
Roland Kirk - Rip Rig and Panic
Herbie Mann - Stone Flute, Impressions of the Middle East
Gabor Szabo - The Sorcerer
Neil Ardley - Kaleidoscope of Rainbows
Yep, I'll add these one too.
Thanks, Michael.

― Lord Custos, Saturday, 17 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...

Here's the answer to the question:
Bing Crosby, Buddy Cole

― Tickety, Monday, 3 November 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

But the best without the rest will feel hollow. There's no thrill.

Never thought of it that way, but this makes perfect sense.

Anyway, no love for Barry Harris? I guess bop-type jazz isn't so innovative, but I love the bounce in his upbeat songs and the tender sadness in his downbeat songs.

FWIW, my favorite jazz discs are Miles Davis' In A Silent Way and -- surprisingly -- the Jazzman Records comp, Spiritual Jazz: Esoteric, Modal and Deep Jazz from the Underground (1968 -- 1977).

― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 26 July 2008 17:23 (seventeen years ago)

You can, if you are truly ambitious, list the greatest album from each era: Swing, Hot Jazz, Cool Jazz, BeBop, Free, Funk & Fusion.

-- Lord Custos, Thursday, November 15, 2001 1:00 AM (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

Hot Music - Louis Armstrong's Hot Fives
Swing - TIE: Complete Decca Recordings of Basie, Complete Lester Young
Bop - Charlie Parker: A Studio Chronicle on JVC
Cool - Requiem by Lennie Tristano
Hard Bop - Work Song by Nat Adderly
Post Bop - Miles Smiles by Miles Davis
Free - TIE: Meditations by Coltrane or Crystals by Sam Rivers
Fusion/Funk - On the Corner by Miles Davis
Fusion/"Pop" - Pat Metheny Group by Pat Metheny et al
Neoconservative - Black Codes (From the Underground) by Wynton Marsalis

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 26 July 2008 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

wow i think i accidentally created my POX for jazz

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 26 July 2008 18:15 (seventeen years ago)

Fusion/Funk - On the Corner by Miles Davis

Great choice, obv.

― Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 26 July 2008 18:20 (seventeen years ago)

hark for Sun Ra.. Cosmic Tones For Mental Therapy as my favorite Jazz album.
Despite me knowing nothing about jazz :(
I'm sure I would enjoy most any kind of Avant-garde, Fusion and Free jazz if the right instruments are present and the atmosphere isn't the typical Jazz sound (I don't like Bitch's Brew for the most part because it wasn't far enough out there for me).

Throw in some congos, or wood blocks, oboes, xylophones, and shit I'm usually happy. Usually weirder instruments make jazz sound better to me. But I like the stuff that creates unique atmospheres (aka sun ra) rather than "standards".
http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/5/6/1/253561.jpg
suggestions would be appreciated. I'll look into your Free and Fusion/Funk Big Hoos.

― CaptainLorax, Saturday, 26 July 2008 18:39 (seventeen years ago)

CHARLES MINGUS - THE BLACK SAINT AND THE SINNER LADY
CHARLES MINGUS - THE BLACK SAINT AND THE SINNER LADY
CHARLES MINGUS - THE BLACK SAINT AND THE SINNER LADY
CHARLES MINGUS - THE BLACK SAINT AND THE SINNER LADY
CHARLES MINGUS - THE BLACK SAINT AND THE SINNER LADY
CHARLES MINGUS - THE BLACK SAINT AND THE SINNER LADY
CHARLES MINGUS - THE BLACK SAINT AND THE SINNER LADY
CHARLES MINGUS - THE BLACK SAINT AND THE SINNER LADY
CHARLES MINGUS - THE BLACK SAINT AND THE SINNER LADY

nuff' said.

― sandwiches, Saturday, 26 July 2008 19:21 (seventeen years ago)

I love it too. But some days it's "The Shape of Jazz to Come."

― Oilyrags, Saturday, 26 July 2008 19:28 (seventeen years ago)

wrong. xp

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 26 July 2008 19:30 (seventeen years ago)

Wouldn't dispute that it's one of the greatest (and one of my favorites) but by no stretch of the imagination is it "nuff said."

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 26 July 2008 19:30 (seventeen years ago)

I love the shit out of Mingus, but tbh these days I'll put on Ah Um or Pithecanthropus or Black Saint and then find myself taking it off 10 minutes later, getting bored quickly. Doesn't excite me like other stuff does, I guess.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 26 July 2008 19:34 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/c/carter_ronc_wherervgr_101b.jpg

^^^^ tooooooooooooooooooooooooooottally underrated

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 26 July 2008 19:36 (seventeen years ago)

Hoos, and for that matter Sandwiches: have you heard the Candid albums? Reincarnation of a Love Bird and Charles Mingus Presents Charles Mingus are surely the equal of anything else he did.

― Oilyrags, Saturday, 26 July 2008 19:38 (seventeen years ago)

these are all great recs. knowledge being dropped. hoos, i don't ride for metheny, but how would you describe the one you listed upthread ? is that on ecm ? i know they put out some "smooth" jazz that i can get in on. my two cents is, Lloyd Miller "Oriental Jazz". Buddhist Jazz moves for dayz.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX5aZsmOTRE

― oscar, Saturday, 26 July 2008 19:50 (seventeen years ago)

Oscar tbh I grew up hating Metheny cause my dad kept trying to put me up on him. On a recent birthday my dad gave me a couple boxes of his old records, a handful of Methenys included.

"Greeeeeeeeeeeeeat, thanks dad..."

Lots of ECM breezy Weather Channel schlock ((Still Life) Talking, Watercolors, etc) but that first Group record just destroys, man. A few weeks later my Dad called me while I had it on pretty loud.

"What are you listening to? What is that noise?"
"That's one of your Pat Metheny records, actually."
"That doesn't sound like one of my records!"
"You must have let this one get dusty!"

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 26 July 2008 20:01 (seventeen years ago)

As I've said elsewhere, Art Ensemble has put some killer stuff out on ECM too.

― Oilyrags, Saturday, 26 July 2008 20:07 (seventeen years ago)

i'll have to check out that metheny hoos. i think i have/had the same prejudices as you but i had a suspicion that he had put out some good stuff. yeah i love the art ensemble of Chicago. i haven't checked out the stuff they put out on ecm but the one they did with Brigitte Fontaine is really good and alot of their live stuff is great.

― oscar, Saturday, 26 July 2008 20:15 (seventeen years ago)

oh man also (maybe a tad more obvious) Song X which he did w/ornette is killer

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 26 July 2008 20:23 (seventeen years ago)

i did a fuckin tiesto monkey dance when i found that at the record store

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 26 July 2008 20:23 (seventeen years ago)

For AEC on ECM:

Nice Guys
Urban Bushmen
Tribute to Lester
Full Force

― Oilyrags, Saturday, 26 July 2008 20:26 (seventeen years ago)

Only Nice Guys is a real contender for GJAE, but there is plenty to dig on on all of them.

― Oilyrags, Saturday, 26 July 2008 20:36 (seventeen years ago)

It's all about Money Jungle!!

OTM

― people explosion, Sunday, 27 July 2008 04:20 (seventeen years ago)

Tribute to Lester is A+ sad and beautiful.

― Sparkle Motion, Sunday, 27 July 2008 04:31 (seventeen years ago)

It's all about Money Jungle!!

OTM

-- people explosion, Sunday, July 27, 2008 4:20 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Link

will ride for this

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 27 July 2008 13:41 (seventeen years ago)

Oh can I also say that actually outside of the dozen I listed upthread, if I had to pick one desert island jazz album it would actually be this:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41EJPJBJ9SL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

which is not hard to find on the blogs (*cough*) or in the bargain bins for a buck, which is where I picked it up on a really fuckin lucky chance buy.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 27 July 2008 13:55 (seventeen years ago)

Charlie Parker, The Legendary Dial Masters, Vols. 1 and 2.

― Jake Brown, Sunday, 27 July 2008 14:06 (seventeen years ago)

Hey Jake if this interests you, the JSP box set I listed upthread has the Dial, Savoy & Verve masters in addition to some early pre-bop stuff (!!!) for only 25 bucks!

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 27 July 2008 14:15 (seventeen years ago)

non-box sets that i dig (but i really dig box sets)

Coleman Hawkins - Body and Soul
Thelonious Monk - Solo Monk
Bill Evans - Explorations
Miles Davis - Tribute to Jack Johnson
Keith Jarrett - Survivor's Suite

― poortheatre, Sunday, 27 July 2008 14:32 (seventeen years ago)

Thanks HOOS I'll check it out!

― Jake Brown, Sunday, 27 July 2008 16:44 (seventeen years ago)

as mentioned, but misspelled upthread:http://www.highfidelitydiscs.nl/skin1/images/products/20338.jpg
this is not counting Armstrong or Parker releases which are collections and not proper album releases on account of the fact that the album format didn't exist back then

― outdoor_miner, Sunday, 27 July 2008 16:51 (seventeen years ago)

Just listened to that last night! Wonderful, Johnny RIP.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 27 July 2008 17:09 (seventeen years ago)

so many great jazz albums
my current fave (becuz it's playing right now) is a comp i've made of all these eric dolphy live at the five spot recordings. it's spread across a couple different records but fits on two CDs. it is killer, maybe better than the vaunted coltrane village vanguard stuff dolphy was involved with around the same time. maybe.

― tylerw, Monday, 28 July 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

I'll add these conspicuously absent recordings:

Charles Mingus - The Great Concert of Charles Mingus
Ray Barretto - Acid
Cannonball Adderley - Mercy, Mercy, Mercy: Live at the Club
The Quintet - Jazz at Massey Hall (Dizzy, Bird, Mingus, Roach, Powell)
Archie Shepp - Looking at Bird

― Kublakhan61, Monday, 28 July 2008 18:18 (seventeen years ago)

Ray Barretto - Acid

Yeah? I've held-off on downloading this forever. It's that good?

― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 July 2008 18:19 (seventeen years ago)

Oh for sure. It's Latin Jazz at it's origin - know that going in. But the energy on that record is astounding.

Why are you holding off?

― Kublakhan61, Monday, 28 July 2008 18:24 (seventeen years ago)

Not really sure why. And now the disc has disappeared from eMusic! I'm a loser, obv.

― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 July 2008 18:27 (seventeen years ago)

Man Acid is so good.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 28 July 2008 21:32 (seventeen years ago)

Damn. As I said, I'm a loser, obv.

― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 July 2008 21:35 (seventeen years ago)

three years pass...

http://www.tomhull.com/
Hull lists his core jazz from the 1960's. for the uninitiated Tom Hull has been the Voice's jazz crit for quite a few years. maybe not quite as great a writer as Giddins; but i always find myself agreeing w/ his jazz grades once i give them a chance

― epigram addict (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 30 October 2011 16:20 (fourteen years ago)

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