dizzee rascal working with the neptunes

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i really hope this new album isnt another attempt by a UK artist to try and go all american. plus, arent the neptunes virtually over as a hitmaking machine? dizzee should at least be working with kanye west, or lil jon, or someone else whos time will be over in 18 months.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Saturday, 19 June 2004 10:13 (twenty-two years ago)

so is this news or a conceptual exercise or what?

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:01 (twenty-two years ago)

conceptual exercise based on news.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

do you have a link to the news?

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)

this is a filthy lie.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)

but it would explain where the neptunes have been for the last six months.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)

didnt he say this was true in a recent BBC 1Xtra interview?

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:15 (twenty-two years ago)

people are very silly to declare neps are over as a hitmaking machine on the basis of them doing nerd and not even trying to make hits lately, its not like timbaland struggling away with his tablas over there at the bottom of the charts every other month now is it. they did the new nelly single and thats pretty fresh and fun so whatev. as for struggling with tablas on the basis of hearing dizzee's 'charisma' tune the other day he shd be v grateful for any help he can get :(

― prima fassy (mwah), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)

i feel no shame at all in wanting The Neptunes to die and the neptunes to come back

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)

This is a horrible idea. I like the Britishness in Dizzee Rascal. The Neppys would just suck that right out of him.

― Unknown User, Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Pharrell will neva die. We love you Pharrell, holla.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:20 (twenty-two years ago)

plus i am not sure the neptunes really serve us any function other than being a "hitmaking machine"

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

there's a new nelly single? where have i been?

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:27 (twenty-two years ago)

i wd rather he worked with neps than anyone else i shd think, of the major players anyway

dont worry m. its v v new

― prima fassy (mwah), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:29 (twenty-two years ago)

if this happens, it'd be interesting for the neps to revisit their decaying NES bloops and queasy bass stylings of "caught out there" and even "slave 4 u" (the closest american charts ever got to 'grime', before the fact?).

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so my finger hasn't fallen off the pulse completely then. what's it called, prima?

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)

uhhhh... oh its on here, and the dizzee. this'll be gone by this evening so check it now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/tracklistings/semtex/semtextracks.shtml

haters never check semtex! he's ok u know

― prima fassy (mwah), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:42 (twenty-two years ago)

the neptunes arent ever really sensitive to the artists they produce, for the most part. you want pharrell and chad to produce, you get a full on neptunes production - insistent clavinets, thudding, lumbering drums in the same pattern, some bleepy noises around the chorus, etc etc. so even if it is a little different like the new nelly song or the jadakiss beat, its instantly recognisable. the neps are generally only hauled in for a hit, not for anything particularly distinct or left field. id rather hear dizzee on a beat like is that yo bitch or nigga who nigga what by timbaland than slave for you or anything like that.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

its not really about declaring the neps over as top ten guarantees, but more to ask why only two annoyingly omnipresent guys from virginia are the only ones regarded as able to secure someone a hit.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:49 (twenty-two years ago)

but i wd say its that neps easy instantness that gives the space for the artist to shine. its bigger and obviouser but then u can move on

― prima fassy (mwah), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

(semtex says that nelly's releasing 2 albums on the same day. a party record and a 'mature' one. omgwtf? has there been a thread?)

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

"but i wd say its that neps easy instantness that gives the space for the artist to shine. its bigger and obviouser but then u can move on"

i'd say by the same token, you cant. people gravitate towards it because its a neptunes beat. the idea that any idiot could rap on their beats and have a hit isnt strictly true (cough *phillys most wanted* cough), but every neptunes beat, within seconds of the first few bars, gets registered as such. its almost overpowering.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

"cross the border" should've been a hit.

i really like "charisma". more for dizz than the beat i suspect, though.

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 19 June 2004 11:58 (twenty-two years ago)

havent heard charisma yet. im almost scared to, cos i loved the first album so much.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Saturday, 19 June 2004 12:00 (twenty-two years ago)

a lil jon beat wd be more overpowering surely, as u say "over in 18 months" etc. the vocal has to prove its way past easy ubiquity wheas with newer wow ubiquity its diff. ANYWAY check dizz's flow on charisma! weird. better neps to wreck him than he himself hmm?

― prima fassy (mwah), Saturday, 19 June 2004 12:10 (twenty-two years ago)

semtex ws dizzee ras' dj at atp.

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 19 June 2004 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)

hahaha 'bloomsday hangover'

― prima fassy (mwah), Saturday, 19 June 2004 12:21 (twenty-two years ago)

"a lil jon beat wd be more overpowering surely, as u say "over in 18 months" etc. the vocal has to prove its way past easy ubiquity wheas with newer wow ubiquity its diff. ANYWAY check dizz's flow on charisma! weird. better neps to wreck him than he himself hmm?"

i dont think you can truly get past the type of all conquering ubiquity that the neptunes have acquired. plus, lil jons beats for himself and the likes of youngbloodz are closer in several textural ways to dizzess own beats (and thus better suited to his vocal talents) than the neptunes.

i must check charisma.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Saturday, 19 June 2004 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)

who cares if they ruin him, if they make a hot tune together itd be 1000000x more interesting than a ticked box and a sagely nodding onlooker

― prima fassy (mwah), Saturday, 19 June 2004 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

*looks on while nodding sagely*

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Saturday, 19 June 2004 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm pretty into charisma actually. more old rhymes though.

― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 19 June 2004 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i like "respect me" a lot more though. it sounds quite a lot like tricky circa pmt. this is a very good thing.

― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 19 June 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

i condone assimilation re: dizzee.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 19 June 2004 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

After dissing the Neptunes' disappearance on my blog, I must admit to loving "Flap Your Wings" (new Nelly single). Meanwhile "Definition of a Roller" by Clipse is just plain ol' bizarre. Still, their relative silence lately has been quite odd compared to the two-and-a-half-year stream just prior.

I'm just wondering whether the Neptunes and Dizzee will go well together. If there's a problem with "Charisma" it's that the Timbaland-ish fluidity of the beats doesn't really suit Dizzee or at least the Dizzee we know and love (plus his voice sounds bizarre! - that said I kinda like it). But The Neptunes also have fluid beats usually - so unless this is "Grindin" type stuff I would imagine it would suffer from the same problem.

The attraction with Lil' Jon is that the strong similarities between grime and crunk suggests that Dizzee could adapt to it easily. He already freestyles over "Rubberband Man" live don't he? In fact the collaboration that would make the most sense is definitely "David Banner".

I could also imagine him doing great stuff with Just Blaze material like "Everything's A Go" and "Fire". JUST BLAAAZE!! RASCAAAT!!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 20 June 2004 06:57 (twenty-two years ago)

definition of a roller is by dame grease. it is kind of a mild neptunes rip-off, though.

http://thecrusade.net/galleries/sxsw/images/PIC00035.jpg

he should do a track with bun b

― hh, Sunday, 20 June 2004 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay now I'm really excited by the totally fictional idea of a dizzee/just blaze collab-o.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 20 June 2004 07:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Can't find "Charisma" on slsk. Anyone want a Gmail invite in exchange for emailing it me?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Sunday, 20 June 2004 09:03 (twenty-two years ago)

they should give him something more along the lines of light ya ass on fire.

― adam west (adamwest), Sunday, 20 June 2004 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Nick - if poss I'd like a gmail invite anyway!

I don't know whether this is good or bad for Dizzee, could be either, but it's definitely good for the Neps - distracts them from making any more dreadful NERD stuff for one thing.

― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 20 June 2004 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I just google image searched Dizzee and got this: http://www1.thny.bbc.co.uk/radio1/images/artists/nerd/pharrell_r1_feb03_80.jpg

Made me think of this thread.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Sunday, 20 June 2004 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I have no GMail invites, but if anyone has "Charisma" and could send it to wooderson @ gmail . com, I'll put it up at my modsvsrockers.com domain until that account closes.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 20 June 2004 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

dizzee and dame grease? hmmmmm.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Sunday, 20 June 2004 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

dizzee's new lp is overwhelming produced by him. there's the vocal of Wonder's 'What,' a track by Taz +Vanguard and another by a Jamaican producer (not Lenky but one of those boys i think), but the rest is by him.

the Neptunes have made the new Nelly single, which is quite out there. havent they been busy with NERD the rest of the time?

― martin (martin), Monday, 21 June 2004 08:46 (twenty-two years ago)

do you know anything else about the album martin? are the tracks with dame grease and the neptunes in the can?

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Monday, 21 June 2004 08:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought they were too busy working with Jamie Cullum? They really do have the best taste in British artists...

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 21 June 2004 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Umphalumpas now.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 21 June 2004 09:11 (twenty-two years ago)

well, dizzee does do a mean grime version of what a difference a day makes. they're not that far apart.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Monday, 21 June 2004 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)

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dizzee rascal working with the neptunes - good or bad idea?