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Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 21 June 2004 06:44 (twenty-two years ago)

cage/tudor 'Indeterminacy'

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 21 June 2004 06:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I just bought Indeterminacy. It's great. uh...you just want a list I take it?

William Burroughs/Kurt Cobain "The Priest They Called Him"

William Burroughs/Disposible Heroes "Spare Ass Annie and Other Tales"

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 21 June 2004 06:50 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah- recommend plz!

I listened to this CD a while back in the record shop- and, as i recall- a reading of tibetan texts + some ambient-ish music.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 21 June 2004 06:56 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.lovely.com/titles/cd2001.html

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 21 June 2004 06:56 (twenty-two years ago)

dunno if that Burroughs/Cobain thing is in print anymore BTW. Mine is a one sided 10" with etched autographs on the back.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 21 June 2004 06:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Might as well list some album tracks that fit the criteria:
Velvet Underground "The Gift"
Sonic Youth "In the Kingdom #19"
Tom Waits "The Ocean Doesn't Want Me"-he's done a lot of those, "What's He Building in There", etc.
hmmm, I'm slow tonight. I'll try to think of more. That Tibetan thing looks interesting though.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 21 June 2004 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't liked what Radigue I've heard, for some reason.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Jarslav Krcek--Raab(sung and spoken)
Willem DeRidder--Snuff
Jon Rose--Paganini's Last Testament
...go looking for Gregory Whitehead's longer radio pieces--some narraration, or look for the Radius series on What Next? recordings--lots of interesting spoken pieces(lots of po-mo crap, too)

Giorno Poetry Systems, come back!

Stephen Boyle (SBoyle), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Some stuff on the Offbeat: A Red Hot Sound Trip record would qualify, esp. Amiri Baraka's collab w/DJ Spooky ("Black Dada Nihilismus"), and David Byrne's recitation of a Kerouac poem ("It Goes Back") w/ambient-jazz backing.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

esp. Amiri Baraka's collab w/DJ Spooky ("Black Dada Nihilismus")

New York Art Quartet and Sunny Murray to thread.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

darkness falls across the land
the midnight hour is close at hand

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

hahaha the funk of forty thousand years.

oh wait, the laughter's at the end, my bad.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

New York Art Quartet and Sunny Murray to thread.

Right, hstencil. I haven't heard that stuff; is it good?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

it's fucking awesome. I can't even fathom a Spooky-ized "Black Dada Nihilismus," btw.

hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

It's actually pretty cool, though I could take or leave Spooky in general.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

ruth white - flowers of evil
jon rose - the people's music
ashley / demarinis - in sara, mencken, christ and beethoven there were men and women

(Jon L), Monday, 21 June 2004 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Can anybody ID a track I heard on the radio a couple of months ago that featured a passage from 'Slaughterhouse 5'? It was the bit where Billy Pilgrim watched a film about the war backwards, bullets being sucked out of people, planes flying backwards, weapons being dismantled and eventually turned back into minerals buried in the ground etc etc.

wombatX (wombatX), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 00:45 (twenty-two years ago)

thx everyone.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a "Rainforest/Mureau" thing by Cage and Tudor - to be frank, after 5 minutes you just wish Johnny shut the fuck up

Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Max Richter's The Blue Notebooks features Tilda Swinton reading chunks of Kafka and Milosz.

NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

>to be frank, after 5 minutes you just wish Johnny shut the fuck up

I'm with you on this one. That disc was a massive disappointment because I buy every recording of Tudor's 'Rainforest' on sight.

The one definitive Johnnymumble document is the Empty Words Part III live in milan 1977, not as much for the mumbling itself but for the fact that the student audience slowly escalates a riot over the course of the two discs in response to the pointlessness

(Jon L), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

but we ALL know about THAT record, SORRY

(Jon L), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 17:35 (twenty-two years ago)

anthony braxton com. 173 (black saint) -- he has an opera too expensive w/libretto
(some of his compositions have extensive sci-fi braxton-jargon short stories instead, that of course come illustrated and they're sometimes fun, but that's back to the liner notes you read as you listen to the jazz lp humour of the residents' ''eskimo'', or maybe just reading the score,.. is that on topic ?)

shoenburg's settings of some english poems and pieces are fun (i can't do the german or french of boulez ina grm etc.. so easily)

harry partch seemed to set out to mingle everyday through to highly mannered speech to everyday noise through to obvious yet maybe highly camp music -- all american english and not radio plays (cf: kagel only patchy in this area)

recordings i've been played of chomsky speaking are as much fun as can be hoped for under the circumstances, with his odd quaver, pitch and timing

george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't be sorry Milton. I have that and really like it (you might have one of the cage threads where I posted abt it) actually, but just as much for the riot.

If I saw that cage/tudor record I would've snapped that up as I love 'rainforest'.

Hi george! haven't seen you for a while, hope you're well.

I think I've seen that Braxton rec.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

does that "American Prayer" jim morrison thingy count?

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Jack Kerouac / Steve Allen, Poetry for the Beat Generation - "Goofing at the Table"

Goofing at the table!
"You just don't know!"
'What don't I know?'
"How good this ham'n'eggs is;
if you had any idea whatsoever how good this is
then you would stop writing poetry and dig in!"

Evanston Wade (EWW), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Can anybody ID a track I heard on the radio a couple of months ago that featured a passage from 'Slaughterhouse 5'?

Tock Tick - Simon Heselev & Kurt Vonnegut

wombatX (wombatX), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

hello julio,
good to hear from you too, ..

I would check out the Braxton stuff at a Braxto-philes collection,
peruse the Braxton books, texts, drawings, musings etc.. (including his affirmation of Sun Ra under interview) ..

the Braxton collected pictures/ works are of some modicum of fun on a good CD/ are fun, but i think the Braxton thing is best experienced as the whole collection of most Braxton materials, for maximum enjoyment.

as desirable weird objectified art a lot of Braxton has eaten my wallet, so i reckon you go for the bigger picture with the collector, whereas i happily actually own most of the more minimally available/known/ whatever the deal works of the others i listed above.

(both Partch and Schoenburg did try to verge text/word and music in various ways, and yet i being a mere English-speaker could only vouch for the stuff in English)

george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 24 June 2004 06:20 (twenty-one years ago)

or the elaborate trail left by the libretto coffe table vinyl system three album jazz-beau rock-acid '69 of
escalator over the hill

george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 24 June 2004 06:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Gil Scot Heron?

David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 24 June 2004 06:56 (twenty-one years ago)

the allen ginsberg/clash collaboration on holy soul jelly roll (not the one on combat rock) is surprisingly awesome.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 24 June 2004 07:20 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
revive!

'jon rose - the people's music'

hi everybodee- I got this and listened to it over the weekend, good collision of violins, tapes, and yes - you guessed it - readings.

The concept seems to be violing manufacturing in china (!) hence the 'tapes' => recordings of factory sounds.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

isn't it great?

I think it's the best thing he's ever done, and he's done quite a lot. When I got it I put it on while checking e-mail, expecting another furious plunder-collage free-improv obstacle course, but the first track was so beautiful I stopped what I was doing, sat down and took in the whole record.

(Jon L), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, marvellous. I'll need to check out other things from him in future, maybe 'Paganini's Last Testament' that stephen recommends above.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

'perks' is good too

(Jon L), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Graham Collier Music : 'The Day Of The Dead' ("based on the words of Malcolm Lowry with music by Graham Collier"). A jazz record, btw.

Edmundo (Edmundo), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

some music is good for reading to, others i can't. can't read and listen to hip hop or pavement or stuff like that because the lyrics jumble with the text.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 2 September 2004 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)


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