KLF Tour Sparks New Controversy
Wanda Dee, whose song 'To The Bone' was sampled by The KLF and became the centre of legal action, is out on the road touring in a KLF show.
Wanda Dee still has many unresolved issues with The KLF, the studio creation of James Cauty and Bill Drummond. "I had a solo career long before The KLF" Wanda tells Undercover News. "I wasn't invited; I was ignited into The KLF and not by a generous invitation. They stole my voice from my rap hit which sold over 500000 copies".
Wanda is on her way to Australia as part of Sweatfest, a dance tour promoted as featuring The KLF, C+C Music Factory and Snap. "I am not touring as The KLF" she insists. "I am touring as Wanda Dee of The KLF. I have nothing to do with how the promoters promote it. I do everything in my power to make sure that the people know that the performers are coming out and not the producers. Again, the producers created that whole confusion. I am a solo entity and have always been a solo entity. Due to the fact that they didn't honour my contract with them, we did track them down and had to pull them by the coat-tails and get them to properly credit me for publishing. By the time we caught up with them they had not taken all of the publishing but most of it. I had to settle with them. They were supposed to give me a feature credit in the video as part of my contract and they were supposed to give me an extra track that they were to produce as part of my agreement but they kept my track, they still have it to this day. They didn't credit me. They in turn caused all the confusion".
When contacted by Undercover, KLF founder James Cauty said he did not approve of the tour.
The Sweatfest tour also features C+C Music Factory but the sole C+C representative in the show is Barbara Tucker, who was only ever credited as one of their dancers and choreographers. C+C Music Factory on CD was Robert Clivilies and David Cole. Cole passed away in 1995 from Spinal Meningitis. The voices of C+C were Freedom Williams and Zelma Davis, neither of which are touring with this show.
Although she never sang on a C+C CD during their heyday, Robert Clivilies has endorsed Barbara's use of the C+C name. In a statement he says "as the last surviving co-creator, co-producer and sole remaining owner of the C+C Music Factory name and franchise, there is only (1) one current incarnation of my multi-platinum group that has been personally sanctioned by my office to rightfully and legally use the name in conjunction with live concert performances and events both domestically in the U.S. and internationally around the world; and that is the C+C Music Factory show featuring Barbara Tucker".
Despite the questions of legitimacy surround The KLF and C+C part of the show, the Snap component does include original member Turbo B.
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 21 June 2004 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Monday, 21 June 2004 21:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― coco, Monday, 21 June 2004 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 21 June 2004 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 21 June 2004 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)
Being The KLF is hard work and comes with certain responsibilites.
Between 1987 and 1992, we operated within the sphere of popular music, making records, video clips, films, actions, live performances, photograph sessions and interviews.
During that time, as The KLF, we engaged recording engineers, pluggers, accountants, designers, session musicians, photographers, singers, taxi drivers, press officers, promoters, lawyers, rappers, film directors and legends. All of which were paid the agreed fees, bonuses and/or royalties, and given co-writing credits where agreed.
We also used samples. Some of these were uncleared and resulted in us having to delete records. Some were initially uncleared but were cleared at a later date.
Our current activities as The KLF require us to work outside the sphere of popular music.
Thus:
Any other artist, anywhere in the world, claiming to be The KLF, the live embodiment of The KLF, the voice of The KLF, or to artistically represent The KLF in anyway whatsoever, IS NOT and DOES NOT.
Any club, concert hall or festival, anywhere in the world, claiming to be promoting a performance by The KLF in any way whatsoever IS NOT.
Any promoter, agent or management company, anywhere in the world, claiming to represent The KLF in any way whatsoever DOES NOT.
Signed by Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty, June 1, 2004.
― kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― mentalist (mentalist), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:41 (twenty-two years ago)
-- (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Almanac ([email protected]) (webmail), June 22nd, 2004. (Autumn Almanac)
In how of a sense is such an utterance to be misunderstood as 'broken English'. For my part it is clear indeed. Could not it to be clearer!
― Janne Karlsson, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 04:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― greg, Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jeff Wright (JeffW1858), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.banffcentre.ca/media_room/images/2005/wpg/images/200504_aural/deller_s.jpg
― html tsar (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 18:54 (seventeen years ago)
kraftwerk ----> melancholy ----> brass bands
― rollerblading on the back of a cereal box in 1997 (internet person), Wednesday, 17 September 2008 19:11 (seventeen years ago)
Someone remind me the name of the artist who did that again.
― Cars That Go Boom (mehlt), Thursday, 18 September 2008 23:12 (seventeen years ago)
god
― I want to be your Dairy Queen (latebloomer), Thursday, 18 September 2008 23:14 (seventeen years ago)
No, I'm pretty sure God didn't do it.
― Cars That Go Boom (mehlt), Thursday, 18 September 2008 23:16 (seventeen years ago)
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41EMN0DZ2DL._SL500_AA240_.jpg
― Mark G, Thursday, 18 September 2008 23:18 (seventeen years ago)
I nearly got to hear (parts of) that live, but barely missed it.
― Cars That Go Boom (mehlt), Thursday, 18 September 2008 23:43 (seventeen years ago)
Jeremy Deller is the bloke you're thinking of
― King Boy Patio (sic), Friday, 19 September 2008 06:46 (seventeen years ago)
I saw that - "Fuck The Millennium" at the Barbican in '97. I think the idea was that both cast and audience would end up in a gigantic punch-up but it never quite came to pass. A lot of miming going on as well.
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 19 September 2008 11:20 (seventeen years ago)
K sera, sera
― sexyDancer, Friday, 19 September 2008 15:47 (seventeen years ago)
really want to hear this 'to the bone' track but can't find it anywhere, is it any good at all?
also, anyone go see bill drummond's recent reading/talk in support of his new book 17? he's still great, brilliant rambling rant about nostalgia and his battle against it.
― NI, Friday, 19 September 2008 17:37 (seventeen years ago)
if anyone's interested, a sound recording of bill drummond's recent 17 reading (from glasgow) can be found on demonoid.
― NI, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 10:59 (seventeen years ago)
Since KLF supposedly stood for "Kopyrite Liberation Front", it's kinda funny if they would take issue for someone else using the name.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 11:07 (seventeen years ago)
They already did that.
Check out the "KLF" record on Fierce recordings.
At first, Drummond wa amused by the idea, and muted becoming the "f.a.l.l.", then they got their lawyers to slap a 'desist' notice on them...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 11:55 (seventeen years ago)
Irony of ironies pt 94
― LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 23 September 2008 12:32 (seventeen years ago)
heaven forbid id call for a return to those lawless ysi days but does anyone have wanda dee's to the bone or um know of a blog it's hosted on? mad keen to hear it (and the acapella and the other track 'the goddess').
didn't she tour with the KLF for a while?
― NI, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 13:04 (seventeen years ago)
she was in the videos
― sexyDancer, Tuesday, 23 September 2008 15:55 (seventeen years ago)
Drummond reiterates that it didn't in 17. (Even if it did, "liberation" not the same thing as "violation" or "replication" - they never bootlegged anyone else's records - and copyright not the same thing as trademark.)
No, they never toured. She's been doing fake tours under their name since the early 90s, though - but never in the UK, where the name is registered.
― john della boscaoila (sic), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 07:05 (seventeen years ago)
Tell that to Abba's lawyers.
― LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 09:46 (seventeen years ago)
"they never bootlegged anyone else's records"
!?!
1987 .. had to be released in a revised 12" form to take out all the samples,
Who Killed .. was sample stuffed (or recreated well known tracks), as well as lifting certain melodies/song structures from all over the place etc etc
or are you seperating this statment from the JAMMS and specifically meaning just the KLF ?
― mark e, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 09:54 (seventeen years ago)
Mark E. Smith's publicity statements are less disingenous than the KLF's.
― Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:45 (seventeen years ago)
KLF-uhh uh-huh-uhhh uh-huh-uh-huh-uhhhhh
― LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Wednesday, 24 September 2008 15:47 (seventeen years ago)
The KLF's wiki entry must be the longest for any musical act ever!
― Mark G, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 16:00 (seventeen years ago)
I love the KLF, but anyone who takes verbatim any group of people who have burned a million pounds because "well they didn't think they really needed it anyway" deserves to be confused.
― Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 16:04 (seventeen years ago)
Here is my theory on that!
When Bill and Jimmy were doing their 'anti-art' thing, various of their 'scultures' were wads of money, in some form or other. On returning one load, which was one thousand pounds nailed to a board, they had to invoke their insurance to pay for the reprinting of the cash.So....If you take a million quid out of the bank, and prearrange the 1) destruction of same2) an independant witness to show no-one 'making off with less than unrecognisably charred banknotes..'3) Documentary evidence of destruction..Then the money can be replaced simply by reprinting it.I'm amazed no-one has even considered this scenario, unless there is a lot of people in on the scam that are sworn to secrecy...― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 08:32 (4 years ago)
So....
If you take a million quid out of the bank, and prearrange the 1) destruction of same2) an independant witness to show no-one 'making off with less than unrecognisably charred banknotes..'3) Documentary evidence of destruction..Then the money can be replaced simply by reprinting it.
I'm amazed no-one has even considered this scenario, unless there is a lot of people in on the scam that are sworn to secrecy...
― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 08:32 (4 years ago)
― Mark G, Wednesday, 24 September 2008 16:10 (seventeen years ago)
Hundreds of people have considered it. They've stated that the notes weren't replaced.
not at all - they sampled huge illegal chunks of other people's recordings, but they weren't knocking out flimsy pressings of Voulez-Vous from the back of Ford Timelord at a boot sale.
― john della boscaoila (sic), Thursday, 25 September 2008 06:31 (seventeen years ago)
They've stated that the notes weren't replaced.
I've not seen that statement.
Anyway, they've imposed a 23 year moratorium on talking about that particular event/stunt, so I guess we'll find out in 2017.
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 September 2008 09:11 (seventeen years ago)
2017 it all connects!
― LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 25 September 2008 09:13 (seventeen years ago)
Haha, a million pounds. Peasants!
― Ned Trifle II, Thursday, 25 September 2008 10:08 (seventeen years ago)
Pocket money to them, as evinced by the million pounds which coincidentally went into their bank account a few days after the burning.
― LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 25 September 2008 10:16 (seventeen years ago)
You have access to their bank records or their bankers? I don't know whether they did or not, but I'd love to see the evidence that they didn't.
― Billy Dods, Thursday, 25 September 2008 11:42 (seventeen years ago)
See the bottom of this page.
― LBC's Steve Allen good morning I'm afraid (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 25 September 2008 12:36 (seventeen years ago)
So their bank allegedly broke their bank secrecy, one of the fundamental principles of that business?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:25 (seventeen years ago)
So, it looks like I was RIGHT!
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 September 2008 13:28 (seventeen years ago)