― Sean, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Brian MacDonald, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Yup. According to Bowie, Eno came into the studio with a pressing and said that the next fifteen years or so of music had just been forecast.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Mark Dixon, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Billy Dods, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tim, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
To answer your question, I think Kraftwerk has more appeal to rock fans than Moroder does. But loads of electronic fans revere them both.
By the way, Kraftwerk certainly acknowledged Moroder: "Spacelab" was a blatant imitation (though it doesn't have nearly the groove that "I Feel Love" has). I seem to remember reading some interview with Moroder where he didn't much care for Kraftwerk.
― Ian, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
But forgotten? Not by me. Every one of his late 70s productions I've heard is essential. Especially "Down Deep Inside": *how* long do I have to bang on about that for?
― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 20 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Ben Butler, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tom, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― dave q, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Not so! Reissued a few years ago in Europe, about three years ago in the States. It's around.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 21 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Also E = MC2 album, came out circa 1980, not to my knowledge available on CD but pops up with bizarre frequency in Summertown Road charity shops. You've heard mid-period New Order?
― Marcello Carlin, Friday, 23 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Andy, Friday, 23 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― fernando, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Just to note that I have since become a Moroder fanatic.
― Sean (Sean), Sunday, 24 August 2003 01:22 (twenty-two years ago)
And what about Eno's prediction eh? His no-nonsense, scientific, intellectual personality is seemingly at odds with his startling record of prediction. Or maybe sobriety and prescience go together after all.
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Sunday, 24 August 2003 03:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 24 August 2003 04:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 24 August 2003 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 24 August 2003 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Sunday, 24 August 2003 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)
Ha, yes, and it also comes across as an early prototype for "The Chase". Super superb & supreme. And the cover is like damn:
http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc800/c832/c83226am33r.jpg
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 24 August 2003 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)
for the cover alone!
― jed_e_3 (jed_e_3), Sunday, 24 August 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)
"No1 in Heaven" also!!
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Sunday, 24 August 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 24 August 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)
and this reminds me ... moroder's records are on my short-list of "must gets." along with those from cerrone.
― Tad (llamasfur), Sunday, 24 August 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Sunday, 24 August 2003 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave q, Monday, 25 August 2003 08:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― H (Heruy), Monday, 25 August 2003 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 August 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)
Moroder = producer of pop records with porn star moustacheKraftwerk = mysterioso intellectuals in avant-garde "rock" band
― Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 25 August 2003 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Monday, 25 August 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Barima (Barima), Monday, 25 August 2003 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)
I have "I feel love", but not much else... was just getting ready to hit the net for info when I saw this thread.
BTW, I put "I'm Left..." on a mix for work and it's gotten 'em all bopping. so there. Then they mocked me for the junior senior (which I actually don't like all that much, sorry).
― nick ring (nick ring), Monday, 25 August 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 25 August 2003 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)
also didn't he produce "call me" for blondie?
― amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 25 August 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Barima (Barima), Monday, 25 August 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)
OTM. one of the 10 or 20 greatest records ever.
― amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 25 August 2003 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)
17. I Feel Love [12" Version] (Bellotte/Moroder/Summer) - 8:16 18. Last Dance [12" Version] (Jabara) - 8:12 19. Mac Arthur Park Suite: Mac Arthur Park/One (Bellotte/Mathieson/Moroder/Summer/Webb) - 17:37 20. Hot Stuff [12" Version] (Bellotte/Faltermeyer/Forsey) - 6:47 21. Bad Girls [12" Version] (Esposito/Hokenson/Sudano/Summer) - 4:57 22. Walk Away [12" Version] (Esposito/Hokenson/Sudano) - 7:16 23. Dim All the Lights [12" Version] (Summer) - 7:14 24. No More Tears (Enough Is Enough) [12" Version] performed by Summer / Barbra Streisand - 11:45 25. On the Radio [Long Version] (Moroder/Summer) - 7:34
― amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 25 August 2003 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sean (Sean), Monday, 25 August 2003 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sean (Sean), Monday, 25 August 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― JasonD (JasonD), Monday, 25 August 2003 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)
Actually, there's an interesting aspect of dance music that starts with the poppier end of glam rock which emphasized the big beat even before Disco, and was an influence on Moroder and early ABBA. That huge, sleek, tribal/mechanical drum sound on Gary Glitter's records was one of the templates.
Neu is another unackowledged influence, since Kraftwerk seemingly carved their entire career out of "Hallogallo."
― David Smay (David Smay), Monday, 25 August 2003 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)
Italian shurely?
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 10:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Fabrice (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 10:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Barima (Barima), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave q, Tuesday, 26 August 2003 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― dave q, Tuesday, 26 August 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)
Sean, surely if you get a chance, check out some of the Megatone stuff in used stores, if you haven't already. SF's Patrick Cowley pretty much adopted Moroder sensibilities and turned up the sleeze.
Oh, and Sylvester (or the ghost thereof) to thread.
― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mike Taylor (mjt), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― jed_e_3 (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 22:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Mike Taylor (mjt), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 26 August 2003 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 27 August 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― todd_burns, Tuesday, 8 June 2004 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― sexyDancer, Tuesday, 8 June 2004 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)
uhm I like it, but it's not techno. fanatical Abba fandom helps, it's a soaring synth ballad in the vein of the final two Abba records. my favorite track on the Frida album is Per Gessle track "Threnody", a setting of a Dorothy Parker poem.
my favorite 80's Moroder is his production for Nina Hagen's "Fearless".
― (Jon L), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)
more german than italian, to be honest. he's from ortisei, near the austrian border, his main language is german and his career started in germany. the moustache is quite italian, though.
― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)
is this really him now? where's the perm, where's the mustache???
― JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)
And is DONNA SUMMER: ONCE UPON A TIME... the only essential work by Summer, in terms of rockist conceptions of albums? I have a few Summer works, but not this one and am wondering where to go next w/r/t her work...
― todd_burns, Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 22 April 2005 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 22 April 2005 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 22 April 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 23 April 2005 04:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― mentalist (mentalist), Saturday, 23 April 2005 06:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Saturday, 23 April 2005 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 23 April 2005 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 23 April 2005 06:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― mentalist (mentalist), Saturday, 23 April 2005 06:27 (twenty-one years ago)
(plus Kraftwerk influenced Moroder as well)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 23 April 2005 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Saturday, 23 April 2005 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)
The notion that synth bands of the early 80s, like Human League, didn't listen regularly to songs like "I Feel Love" or the less electro Summer tracks is ridiculous. I mean, Oakey did a record w/ Moroder for chrissakes.
How much is debatable -- Trans Europe Express would appear to be the most obvious influence, but it came out the exact same year as From Here To Eternity, so...
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 24 April 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)
just a few weeks ago in NY, i picked up an album by Giorgio (no last name) "Son Of My Father". it's pre-disco, sorta rocking bubblegum pop. the last track is the organ sample for DJ Shadow's "Organ Song"
http://www.bsnpubs.com/abc/dunhill/dunhill123.jpg
― [that bastard] jaxon (jaxon), Sunday, 24 April 2005 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 25 April 2005 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 25 April 2005 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 25 April 2005 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 22 June 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)
― jäxøñ (jaxon), Thursday, 22 June 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 22 June 2006 03:49 (nineteen years ago)
― San Diva Gyna (and a Masala DOsaNUT on the side) (donut), Thursday, 22 June 2006 05:28 (nineteen years ago)
― San Diva Gyna (and a Masala DOsaNUT on the side) (donut), Thursday, 22 June 2006 05:29 (nineteen years ago)
― Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Thursday, 22 June 2006 05:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 22 June 2006 10:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 22 June 2006 10:40 (nineteen years ago)
― indie disco dancer, sweet romancer (haitch), Thursday, 22 June 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)
― PappaWheelie 2 (PappaWheelie 2), Thursday, 22 June 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)
― trees (treesessplode), Friday, 23 June 2006 00:20 (nineteen years ago)
Anyone track down his "Einzelganger" album? it's got more of a Kraftwerk-like sound, lots of synths, very few vocals, not really dancey but it's very good!
Have to bump this thread because it's crazy how little credit this guy has gotten; he was 5 years ahead of everyone! (in the 70's, at least)
― frogbs, Friday, 9 November 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)
He's also joined Soundcloud recently and uploaded loads of rare stuff. His first account seems to have disappeared though
http://www.factmag.com/2012/10/19/giorgio-moroder-joins-soundcloud-uploads-a-stack-of-rare-tracks-to-stream/
http://soundcloud.com/giorgiomoroder2
― groovypanda, Friday, 9 November 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)
>Anyone track down his "Einzelganger" album?
heard this for the first time earlier this year. even numbered pop tracks are a little silly, but the odd numbered 'experiments' are pretty hardcore for 1975, and not at all like his other disco / pop records -- sounds like Cluster / Asmus Tietchens on Sky, but before those records came out, so... for me, yes, forgotten influence
― Milton Parker, Friday, 9 November 2012 18:22 (thirteen years ago)
Not
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 19 May 2013 14:29 (thirteen years ago)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_QTA4z9i9CAQ/S7QPliR4HuI/AAAAAAAABfw/WeC4ICwj4L8/s320/Anthrax-NOT.jpg
― how's life, Sunday, 19 May 2013 16:58 (thirteen years ago)
Im listening to the American Gigolo soundtrack a lot lately. Its kind of amazing that himself and Paul Schrader wrote a rock-disco track together.
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Sunday, 19 May 2013 17:05 (thirteen years ago)
Wikipedia tells me something I didn't know:
European disco producer Giorgio Moroder originally asked Stevie Nicks from Fleetwood Mac to help compose and perform a song for the soundtrack, but she declined (as a recently signed contract with Modern Records prevented her from working with Moroder). It was at this time that Moroder turned to Debbie Harry and Blondie.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 19 May 2013 18:11 (thirteen years ago)
i think it turned out for the best tbh
― glycemic index joe (electricsound), Sunday, 19 May 2013 22:48 (thirteen years ago)
yeah blondie and moroder seem like a better fit
― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Sunday, 19 May 2013 22:52 (thirteen years ago)