The Prodigy - Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned

Someone tell me: why is Juliette Lewis on it? Didn't Liam see the video for Melissa Ethridge's "Come to My Window" or the truly abortive sci-fi flick she did with Ralph Fiennes? Ick, Ick and thrice Ick.

the Prodigy album gets reviewed by OMM/ Observer Music Monthly
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/omm/reviews/story/0,13875,1261357,00.html

Sadly, this seems rather accurate.

They are still capable of credible releases, and of another good album, mainly because their ability to gauge the state of play in dance is cannier than most of the other big acts. So "Come With Us" seemed a curious thing at the time of release, in hindsight the subtlety of it is what makes it so strong.

I look forward to hearing their new album. Nude Night and the Kylie remix were both great and tracky and judging by the new tracks at the live show they still have something to offer.

only heard the first three tracks - i suppose 'Spitfire' is 'dated' and it's something that would appeal to younger Korn or RATM (voice sounds a lot like Zach) fans more than those who liked the band ten years ago.

'Memphis Bells' starts well and there's some interesting things here and there. i'm reluctant to pan it as much as people are here - think people are being curiously OTT in criticism but i'm not going to sing it's praises myself.

this reads two ways but i agree in that if a lesser known act had come out with it it almost certainly wouldn't be slagged off (or perhaps praised) as much.

but yeh despite the absence of Keith and a more electro-vibe the album still feels targetted mainly for teenage nu-metal casualties which would explain why both Ronan and Alex In NYC are not feeling it, heh

Prodigy fans; simply twist a bit of rolled up newspaper and dip it in petrol. Hey presto! A Twisted Firestarter! Perfect for barbeques, bonfires, etc.

LOOSERS

I never said Underworld still have "it" or whatever, I don't think they do and I'd be pleasantly surprised by a new album from them being any good, or at least being relevant, I guess in Underworld's case I could imagine them going off on an interesting tangent.

But the Chemical Brothers, well it's like I said, there was praise from all corners for that Kylie remix, from people whom you'd not expect to bother with the Chemical Brothers as well as from fans. And crucially it was played in clubs and it was a REMIX. Can you imagine the Prodigy remixing anything?

Regardless of quality, that simple fact proves their distance from dance culture. The Chemical Brothers will still release a single and it will have high profile remixers on it cos it'll still be intended for clubs.

fwiw I think Star Guitar is close to their best track ever anyway.

i think for breaks/electro DJs NOT to play 'Girls' would be a bit daft myself (but i don't know what the latest cool breaks tracks are so maybe they are a bit more advanced/'new'/whatever)

Howlett has done remixes so of course I can imagine them (club cred more debatable). Nothing recent tho granted but I've always wished he would do more. Can't remember a Prodigy remix since DJ Hype's mix of 'Smack My Bitch Up' - yes he seems reluctant to permit remixes - arrogance? preciousness? maybe!

probably one of the best for me too. the main difference I've noticed with the Chemical Brothers over the years is the move from fuzzy sample-heavy (even just the funk snares or whatever) bombast to the more microtronic refined clubby style - but I really liked that new thing I heard at Glastonbury with the dramatic schizoid martial-arts fanfare type thing.

heh, this could just as readily be aimed at Dan and I i fear...

it's absolutely not, though!! where's the mentasms?? where's the rush?? even "smack my bitch up" had those crazy ascending synths that seemed to be on every track on the 1st two albums. the new one just sounds like out-of-date nu skool breaks tracks.

Shut up!

Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned is very unawesome.

That about does it for me.

You'd probably hate Experience but be ptoentially head-blown by Jilted Generation.

No--I would just out and out dismiss it and never give it a second's thought again (if I ever even listened to it in the first place). It's a lousy record no matter how you look at it.

If you like this than there's no reason why Fat and Jilted shouldn't wallop you into the 25th century. Experience is equally awesome but in a different way.

Wasn't John Cage doing this type of thing in the 40s/50s?

http://www.onelife.com/evolve/zda1470.jpg

i just found this in my cd's.
maybe i'll listen to it later.

It's not as bad as everyone loves to pretend it is, and "Girls" is vastly underrated.

by and large one of the wrongest threads on ilm

classic: the mashup of Breathe & Stop vs Rex the Dog's remix of of Girls that I made and played out a bunch of times in the mid-2000s
dud: the Prodigy's careers post-Breathe

This record fucking sucks.

I thought the whole Prodigy thing was fucked by this point - Howlett obviously had a creative block and didn't know which directiom to go in, Flint had let success go to his head a little bit too much, Maxim was off doing whatever the hell he was doing and the Thornhill had departed - not that this had much of an impact, mind.

*direction

I forgot this existed tbh.

I remember a friend claiming Invaders Must Die was a return to form, I didn't believe him.

a good friend 10 years my younger claims the Prodigy only really got good after Fat Of The Land. He hears Jilted Generation as sounding flat and lacking 'oomph', and (according to him) the songs take too long to get going.

he's heinously wrong of course, but it's an interesting take

I've met American Prodigy 'fans' who were unaware they had any albums before FOTL.

Sounds like your friend is coming at them from a rock rather than dance angle.

Invaders Must Die has some FANTASTIC material on it.

I don't remember the last time I played AONO, maybe that should be today's soundtrack.

Invaders Must Die has some FANTASTIC material on it.

otm.

Sounds like your friend is coming at them from a rock rather than dance angle.

― chap, Thursday, August 17, 2017 1:20 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yeah I think he first encountered them as a pre-teen during the nu-metal era. Some sort of high-impact activity he was doing at the time, and one of their latter albums was the soundtrack.

both this one & Invaders are really good records. I love Fat but had very little invested in the band otherwise, the feeling I get from people who hate on later Prodigy is they have very specific if-you-grow-it-will-be-in-this-direction expectations of the band. they're basically just big-beat rock and roll albums though. that is cool w/me. they're really good big-beat rock and roll albums.