Max Martin - search/destroy

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I like his song '... Baby One More Time', as performed by Britney Spears.

What other good songs has he written and produced?

DV, Monday, 26 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Didn't he do loads of stuff for NSync or something like that?

DV, Monday, 26 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

This should be good for me. I've never found Martin's stuff as intriguing as the current Timbaland/Neptunes etc. brand of nu-pop, (especially after the first wave of Britney & Backstreets, the singles seemed to sound so by-the-numbers) but that might be because I wasn't listening as hard as am now. So, er, tell me how wrong I was.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Monday, 26 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He's also worked with Celine Dion!

"in the years 1999 and 2000 Martin’s songs were performed and broadcast more than those of any other writers"

james, Monday, 26 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As discusssed long ago, his later production work got more intricate & histeronic. Search: Millenium, The Call, Lucky. Destroy --?

A very not versatile producer, one should note.

Sterling Clover, Monday, 26 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"Histeronic"? "A very not..."? You put a lot of effort into that, Sterling? ... Max Martin is worthless outside of Britney albums. His work with Backstreet Boys is their best, like anyone cares. His work with Ace of Base, N' Sync (lord knows, Celine Dion, 5ive, Westlife, Robyn, Rednex...) is terrible, though he does get credited on some Army of Lovers shit, big ups for that.

Wheeler, Monday, 26 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Didn't he write "It's My Life" by Bon Jovi? That was pretty good.

Kris, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

DJ Martian: Search and Destroy

the pinefox, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sterling, who were those songs released by?

I didn't realise Max Martin was involved with the Army of Lovers? The Army of Lovers RoXoR. Well, they did for at least one song.

The Dirty Vicar, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Britney's albums are pretty worthless too, Wheeler. I mean outside a couple singles. And what's up with your attitude, like you never made a mistake before, pff. Poor Sterling, he's in love with me you know.

Ally, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wheeler's jealous of meeeeee!

Millenium is a Backstreet album. The Call is a song off their next album. The others are Britney songs. N'Sync's s/t is a Martin joing largely, but the tracks are not quite as good (more straightforward production). AMG just lists him on vocals for Army of Lovers.

Destroy: Robyn, 5ive

Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I've always thought Max Martin's choruses are just flat-out amazing. Strip away the dumb stuff like the groups, the shameless manipulation, etc. (which I'm not expecting anyone to want to do) and the way the harmonies are written can be pretty astounding.

And I've always loved the way the key change in "I Want It That Way" mimics Def Lepard's "Photograph" almost in full.

Andy, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

No kidding. If Bon Jovi doesn't let him write all their songs, he should put together his own pop metal band. Or start one himself!

Kris, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Agreed on the choruses: the top few are as good as anything Abba or anyone really ever recorded. I want to put in my search vote for "Stronger" which is one of those songs where the chorus is so great that it's completely impossible to remember the verses.

And here's an interesting thing about the Britney choruses pointed out by Metal Mike: "Backing vocals on my top three track picks ("Stronger," "Lucky," "Oops," not to mention a year ago ". . . Baby One More Time") are credited to Britney, Max Martin, and Nana Hedin. Could Nana be the Darlene Love — nameless voice heard and loved by millions — of the modern pop scene?"

Ian, Tuesday, 27 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Britney's new album is fantastic, and I stand by that, Allison. Her other albums aren't so hot though, I'll give you that (I just bought them). Army of Lovers are incredible! "Israelism"!!! Army of Lovers on a mission!

Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

britney's new album is not very good at all.

max martin search: 'tell me, tell me ... baby' by 'nsync, from 'celebrity.' justin liked it so much, he ripped it off for the song credited to him on 'britney.'

maura, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Britney's new album is terrible, I bought it for $5 in a used record shop. It has like 3 good songs on it, and that's it. Most of them are completely the worst songs in the entire universe, ever, and she needs to ditch that Justin Timberlake wanker instantaneously. Wheeler, you are drunk, just admit it. Her albums are all terrible, they're only worth buying if they're $5 at a used record store.

She should do a covers album, a la Duran Duran. She could do covers of Burning Up and As Heaven is Wide. AND PLANET EARTH.

Ally, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And don't call me Allison, Oti-Wan.

Ally, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Her first album is a good bubblegum listen right the way through, yes EVEN e-mail my heart. Her second album I've much less time for - the high points are high but it's almost too Max Martin-ish for comfort. I don't have high hopes for the third, because the cover's so horrible. But unless a really good single hooks me in I doubt I'll buy it anyway. Anyone heard the Kylie record?

Tom, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Stop dissing on Justin, he's my main man. Singles aside, her first two albums are terrible (with the exception of "I Will Be There"), of course I didn't pay money for them (sold store $150 of awful CDs). The cover of the new one is great, certainly better than Oops, which looks like a bootleg from China.

I just noticed that the songs Britney co-wrote on the new one (Lonely, Anticipating, Cinderella, Let Me Be, That's Where You Take Me) are the best on the album by far. Coincidence, surely.

Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I have emotional ties to the first album for the peerless 'Born To Make You Happy', but to be honest the Britney experience is more fulfilling via MP3 anyway.

Tom - the parts of the Kylie album I've heard are very Modjo-like filtered house, with a dash of R&B and UK Garage. Kylie pulls off filtered house better than most pop artists, and it's much better than her last album, but I can't imagine any of what I've heard equalling the desolate "Can't Get You Out Of My Head" in my affections. To get an idea of what to expect, search "More More More" and "Love At First Sight". The 2-step track ("Give It To Me") is quite good, actually.

Tim, Wednesday, 28 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tim, when's the Kylie album come out? I'm going to have to buy it import, grumble grumble...

Otis, you need to just sit down. Anyone that calls Justin their main man needs some serious help, he's the most offensive person in pop music besides that big fat old fuck in NSync, who is even worse. But regardless, I think Britney should write more songs.

The cover is terrible, you know. You even admitted it when me and Ramon dogged on it. Did you put the poster on your wall yet?

Ally, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm not putting that shit on my wall. You've seen my room, I have an eye for style. I could decorate. Like be a decorator.

Otis Wheeler, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, if it's so fantastic why don't you want it on your wall then? MY POINT PROVEN. You should hang it on someone else's door, those people need better decoration, and even an ugly picture of Britney is better than the bullshit they have on those doors. Speaking of ugly pictures of Britney, what the hell? That Rolling Stone cover is terrible. It's like, her arms look weird, her stomach looks bloated, her face looks drunk...but HER TITS LOOK BIGGER THAN NORMAL! That's the picture! Rolling Stone should all be shot. Poor Britney, she's really not just a pair of tits. I feel her pain. It reminded me of the current issue of Talk that has Gwyneth Paltrow on it, it's the UGLIEST picture of Gwyneth ever, I mean she looks like David Bowie in Labrynth or something, but female, but they've airbrushed big boobs onto her and she's squeezing her chest with her HANDS so obviously that's what they're going to use. It's silly. I would never want that to happen to me, I would take a knife and chop off my breasts if it did.

Anyhow, my mom worried a bit about your madonna poster, she said it looked like you were making out with it in one of our pictures. I didn't know what that meant.

Ally, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Britney Spears is a beautiful lass - all can agree on that. But Mr. Tom Ewing in 'not interested in Britney Spears LP' shocker - has Friday's Sun got hold of this yet?

the pinefox, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Not that one guy, he thinks she looks like Highlander.

Ally, Thursday, 29 November 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...
Max Martin is a rocker in his heart and he is the sweetest person around!!!1

Dizzy, Thursday, 3 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

two weeks pass...
He has probably written one decent song. "I Want It That Way" For the Backstreet Boys". All the others are bad, bad, bad! Maybe this guy could change chords every noe and then. I heard Overprotected the other day (The new Britney song)and instantly knew it was a Max Martin song. Why should he be allowed to keep polluting the charts with this garbage. Oh and also It's my life was Bon Jovi's worst song, predictable, why the hell did they collaborate with him? One of the eternal mysteries of the universe, maybe they could write a song with Stock, aitken and waterman next...but maybe not! Radio stations shouldn't play this stuff, ban it NOW!!!!!!!!!! Oh, and as for Max Martin starting his own metal band, he tried it and failed, then he went into the pop and now r&b fields, at least he still knows three or four chords, which keep the millions rolling in!

James Allanson, Sunday, 20 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Baby one more time, cover my ears! Max apparently spends THREE days in the studio getting ONE sound right. What the hell is he doing in there?

Will Rogers, Saturday, 26 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

four weeks pass...
nobody knows anything about max martin.Evert expert agrees that he is genious and he is melody king.Nobody except him can make songs like 'as long as you love me' and 'thats the way it is' those songs sold more than 20 million alone.'larger than life' in which he makes honour of u all people and he got 3 ASCAP awards which is a record.Ýf he is not good then please tell me who is better?

burak, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, my only question is -- do you really care about charts as much as your own instincts? It seems like you lack the courage of your convictions if you're going to trot out the sales amounts -- check the thread, you'll find praise here for him that doesn't need that. Which is the point. :-)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Max apparently spends THREE days in the studio getting ONE sound right. What the hell is he doing in there?

Here's some insight into Max's mind.

geeta, Sunday, 24 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...
Hey Burak, here's the answer to who's better then Max matin. John Leennon Paul McCartney Brian Wilson Elvis Presley Mick Jagger Keith Richards Barry Gibb Daryl Hall Don Henley Bjorn and Benny from ABBA Do you want me to go on, and on, and on!

Lee Middleton, Tuesday, 2 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Hey Ned I dont care what critics say and record sales but these are important in this business because if an album sold well like millions its very good for the musician because this means he or she reachs so many hearts.I dont like what mariah carey , john lennon , and alicia keys does ,in fact I hate what they do but so many people like them and ý respect.the reason that ý love max martin or cheiron sound is that he knows what people want in a song(a good intro,perfect lyrics and great melody)three days for a right sound shows that how he is hardworking I havent seen any songwriter

, Saturday, 6 April 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one month passes...
As someone on the inside of the indsutry who does programming and engineering for these record labels, I will say Max is a genious. While some may feel his stuff lacks any substance because it doesn't suit their style or taste, the amount of detail put into the productions is unparralleled. Sure if you break the songs down to their chords they are quite simple (but should that make a song bad?). But when you look at the production, how all the many layers intertwine, the hooks that fit between the hooks and all compliment each other and highlight the song itself. To the untrained ear, it may sound very shallow, but when you have to create the stuff from scratch, it's extremely difficult. It takes 2 weeks of 18 hour days just to mix the stuff becuase of all the fine details. The only down side to this music is that the artist is a by-product. A label on the can of a writer/producers soup that can be interchanged easily (like lassie). But to a writer, who cares? ;-)

Anonymous, Thursday, 16 May 2002 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

five months pass...
Diane Warren is better! Check her site out at www.realsongs.com and you'll realise what a 'melody king' really is!

Alicia, Friday, 18 October 2002 13:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Your statement cannot be parsed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 18 October 2002 14:53 (twenty-three years ago)

two months pass...
Other Swedish producers and songwriters:
http://www20.brinkster.com/serviceportalen/music.html

LJ, Friday, 17 January 2003 16:15 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
Considering the magic he worked with Kelly Clarkson, and the fact that the Backstreet Boys are back (with two or three new Max Martin songs on their next album), I say: revive!

My favorite song of his is "Blow Your Mind," one of two really strong Max Martin songs on the Nick Carter solo record.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I wasn't too keen on the way he was repeating himself musically a lot. But "Ooops I Did It Again" remains a great pop song nevertheless.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 29 March 2005 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I was so wrong about the Kylie record on this thread.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 30 March 2005 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"Stronger"--Britney Spears
The chorus is Abba-esque.

late adopter, Wednesday, 30 March 2005 06:40 (twenty-one years ago)

eight years pass...

https://www.norwegian.com/magazine/features/2014/03/welcome-to-the-machine

Today, Martin is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Swedish producers. The likes of Klas Åhlund (Kylie Minogue, Robyn, Madonna), Shellback (Usher, One Direction, Taylor Swift, Icona Pop) and Martin Terefe (Westlife, James Blunt, KT Tunstall) have regularly produced international chart-topping hits in the last few years. Swedes have also recently conquered the world of J-pop and K-pop.

According to Seabrook, Swedish producers still largely follow the collaborative formula used by Cheiron. “If you look at American producers, there’s often a lot of ego,” says Seabrook. “You’ll get one guy wanting to do the whole song, and to say, ‘That’s mine’. The Swedish way, which PoP and Martin mastered, is a lot more group-oriented. You might have different guys doing various beats and melodies – it’s often a collaboration, and there’s an ability to let people stick to their areas of expertise. It helps, too, that Swedish producers tend to be very professional –

curmudgeon, Friday, 21 March 2014 20:14 (twelve years ago)


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