"Sylvester: The Life and Work of a Musical Icon"

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From Fantasy Records' press newsletter:

"Sylvester: The Life and Work of a Musical Icon" is a day-and-a-half academic conference at New York University (October 8-9, 2004) that will bring together distinguished scholars with musicians, journalists, and filmmakers to illuminate the amazing life and body of work of the late R&B and disco singer SYLVESTER. Panelists include Joshua Gamson, Barry Walters, Stephen Winter, Judith Halberstam, Jose Munoz, Tim Lawrence, Phil Harper, and David Roman. The conference ends with a tribute concert to Sylvester featuring Martha Wash (former Sylvester backup singer and one of the Two Tons o' Fun), Billy Porter, and other guests TBA. The conference is sponsored by the Center for the Study of Gender and Sexuality and the Clive Davis Department of Recorded Music. For more information, please contact 212/992-9540 or 212/992-8400. http://www.nyu.edu/fas/gender.sexuality/events/events.html
http://www.clivedavisdept.tisch.nyu.edu/page/projects.html
http://www.fantasyjazz.com/catalog/sylvester_cat.html
http://www.fantasyjazz.com/catalog/twotons_cat.html

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

This is astoundingly brilliant. But no Chuck Eddy?

the Clive Davis Department of Recorded Music

This concept terrifies me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
Are there any other Sylvester threads? He's such a huge influence on people like New Order, Arthur Baker etc. His "Rock the Box" is sampled on The Avalanches album and the full length version is mindblowing. I'd love to do a CD80 of his stuff, but I'm not familiar enough with it.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

This might have to suffice. I echo Spencer's call for more info -- I have two songs and that's about it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know much about Sylvesters earlier funk type stuff, but his most famous stuff is with producer Patrick Cowley, who really deserves much of the credit of being one of the true pioneers of electronic dance music, just after Krafterk, Moroder etc.

http://pat.ma.cx/

I think he was even responsible for some stuff he wasn't credited with, and much of Sylvester's other stuff was produced by his associates and successors. Cowley also worked with other artists like Sarah Dash and Paul Parker, but his best work was either with Sylvester or his solo stuff like MindWarp, Menergy, Get a Little, Megatron Man. Outside of Sylvester, he's most famous for his infamous 15+ minute remix of Donna Summer's I Feel Love, which is truly an amazing meeting of electronic disco minds. It's available on some Hi-NRG comp CDs and recently bootlegged on Ballroom records.

Cowley died of AIDS in 1982 and is considered one of the first famous people to do so.

My favorite Sylvester song is on the Stars ep and is called "I Need Someone to Love Tonight." It's not credited to Cowley as a producer but as a writer, so I just assume it's his work all around. It's never on the Sylvester reissue 12"s because it's a slow number, but it is absolutely the most beautiful piece of sexy, smoldering electonic music ever written. I own 3 copies of the Stars EP for this reason and will continue to buy it to trade and give to friends.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah, I think Cowley's remix of I Feel Love, or an edit of it, appears on New Order's Back to Mine.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah! I was wondering about that mix. Thanks for the info on Cowley!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

But, somebody actually has the 15+ minute version? The one in "Back To Mine" is 7 minutes or so... and I can't get enough!

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Does the 'Back to Mine' triple vinyle pack have the full version?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll put it online in a bit.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank ya! :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't post it, it's too big and I don't want to sacrifice quality! What's the name of that website for emailing files where you can temporarily hold things?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

In the Summer of 88, I used to stick the strobes and smoke on, and run the Martin Luther King "I have a dream" speech over the top of the long instrumental sections in Cowley's "I Feel Love" remix. (But then, didn't we all?)

Sylvester recommendations:

Disco Sylvester: Dance (Disco Heat), Grateful, I Who Have Nothing, You Make Me Feel (Mighty Real), Stars... but most especially of all, I Need You (later revived by the late 80s rare groove Kiss FM London crowd). Much of the disco stuff was done in collaboration with Harvey Fuqua, who also worked closely with Marvin Gaye.

Hi-NRG Sylvester: Do You Wanna Funk, Menergy, Don't Stop, Be With You, Take Me To Heaven, Sex, Lovin' Is Really My Game, Rock The Box. (But NOT Band Of Gold, and its terrible sax solo...)

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 2 September 2004 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

go to:

http://homepage.mac.com/danselzer/SecretMusicPlace/FileSharing2.html

password is:

musicme

let me know if this works.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

that should be:

http://homepage.mac.com/danselzer/SecretMusicPlace/

but it's still not working.

you know I'm a decently paid computer expert, it's sad really.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 2 September 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Works here! (It's d/ling the correct size anyway).

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and thanks - only got the UK 7" vers. of this mix - spread over 2 sides.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

It's working fine. Dan Selzer, I kiss you.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

It's playing properly here as well. Have only me and Mike d/led this?
I despair...

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

huh. I can't get it to work! oh well, I guess it's not for me, glad y'all can get it.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe some fluke because I'm logged into the .mac account and my own iDisk and it's confused or something.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 2 September 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I got it. You rule, Dan!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 2 September 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Got it too... THANKS!...

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm grabbing this, too, hope that's OK. Thank you!

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 4 September 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

no. put it back. damn, it's too late. oh well. enjoy!

I played some Patrick Cowley last night. 4 or 5 hours to a mostly empty room trying to stretch out my one crate, I managed to play from the first LP Get A Little, Menergy and Megatron, as well as Sylvester's I Need Somebody To Love tonight extended because I mashed it up with F-4000 by the Fearless Four. Tonight we're doing a disco party at Tonic in NYC, so I will play You Make Me Feel, Mighty Real at the very least.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 4 September 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
More info, again via Fantasy:

The first biography of SYLVESTER, who died of AIDS-related causes in
December 1988 at the age of 41, will be published March 1, 2005 by Henry
Holt & Co. "The Fabulous Sylvester: The Legend, the Music, the 70s in San
Francisco" was written by Joshua Gamson, a professor of sociology at the
University of San Francisco. His previous books include "Freaks Talk Back:
Tabloid Talk Shows and Sexual Nonconformity" and "Claims to Fame: Celebrity
in Contemporary America." http://www.fantasyjazz.com/catalog/sylvester_cat.html

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 18 October 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

The title of this thread is still funny to me because every musical icon should be a tacky drag queen.

Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Monday, 18 October 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

seventeen years pass...

^otm!!!

just needed to register somewhere that sylvester's "over and over" (special 12" disco mix) is as good as it gets and then some. if you haven't heard it before and you want to bawl your eyes out do your spirit a favor and put it on, have a dance etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFoFe7k6YWg

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 16:53 (four years ago)

Deservedly landed very high on the old DJ History Forum top 25 disco songs: DJ History Forum's Top 25 Disco Songs

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:03 (four years ago)

(I mean, on the original list, not the ILM rankings of said songs.)

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:03 (four years ago)

that list reminded me of "my love is free" and that thankfully i saved my rip of danny krivit's edit from a hd failure (left behind my vinyl at the place of someone who definitely didn't think his love was free). did some digging and found it's finally been released digitally on a 2020 disco compilation that looks promising: salsoul meets west end (reworks) 2020

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Wednesday, 18 May 2022 17:55 (four years ago)


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