White Stripes to Break UP?!?!?! OH noooooo

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― ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I couldn't be in a band with anyone who was in a relationship with Renee Zelleweger and still acted like a corny indie fuck, so I'm shocked to hear its Jack that's pushing for this.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

PRAISE THE LORD!

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

sadness.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

What's the difference, though? Even if you hate Jack White, I can't imagine he's retiring.

― mike a, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Sounds good to me. 4 albums is enough, I think; just the right amount for their particular format. I'd love to hear JW behind a full band.

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

OT$

― kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

It makes sense to me. Being in a band that revolved around a concept like that is good for a little while, but he's bound to want to work with other drummers and add more instruments and ideas into the mix without feeling that he's compromising the premise of the band.

Jack will probably be playing all of those WS songs in his live sets for the rest of his life, so it's not that big of a deal, really. It's Meg who is kinda getting screwed.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

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― amateur!!!st, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

It's Meg who is kinda getting screwed.
heh heh, heh heh, screwed.

― sexyDancer, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

who knows what meg will end up doing? she might very well end up having a much more interesting solo career than jack. other "talentless" female drummers like moe tucker and ikue mori have taken the end of a band career as an opportunity to explore and do some stuff off the beaten-path (not that DNA or the VU experienced anywhere close to the contemporary success of the stripes). either way, shes not screwed. theyre probably set for a good while off the money from the albums/shows/appearances/etc.

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

She'll be the Morrissey to his Marr. Just you watch.

― Loretta Lynn, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I just want to make it very clear that I don't think that Meg is talentless. I think she kinda rules, actually.

Jack's the genius of that band, though. It's all about his songwriting. I think that he's got a long career ahead of him, even if it's just to entertain the future readers of Mojo.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

yea, Meg White is totally into Tzadik I bet hahahaha

― ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, there's just no way that solo Meg is going to compete with solo Jack. It's a little like when Pavement split, and there were all of these weird Spiral partisans who insisted that he'd have the better solo career, and history has proven them to be strange, delusional people who'd prefer to side with Mommy rather than Daddy in the band break-up.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Like working at K-Mart?

― Huck, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean, obv meg is more likely to be moe tucker than ikue mori. but imna go out on a limb and say that she releases 3 solo album total post-WS, one of which will be a stone cold classic.

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with a girl who saw Jack pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

― ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

SAVE JACK

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

one of which will be a stone cold classic.

Will that be the one where Jack writes all of the songs for her?

(Because that would probably happen.)

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Anything resembling a Thee Headcoatees knock-off is perhaps always welcome.

― sexyDancer, Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

lets just hope its not 'acting' - anyone whose seen coffee and cigarettes knows what Im talking about.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

are there any released meg songs?

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I always liked her singing on "Cold Cold Night", but a lot of fools slagged it.

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Not that I am aware of, Peter.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

well, for her flaws (playing basically the same metronomic rhythm to several stripes songs), meg's basic drumming style does set the stripes apart from everyone else.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

actually, the post doesnt confirm that the stripes are to split. in any case, i heard theyve been working on some new songs, so maybe theyll be one more album. on the other hand, he said in a recent interview that they might have a rarities/b-sides album coming out. so maybe that will do them for now. theyre on the cover of word magazine this month - maybe that will have some clues.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

my friend mike (mike ouderkirk around these parts) loves "cold cold night" but hates "after hours". that always struck me as crrrazy, and i guess ive always identified meg and moe for that reason...

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Meg White is, in fact, a talentless (no quotation marks) drummer (Moe Tucker isn't). Meg White's problem isn't being metronomic but, at least live, being all over the place.

But she did sing "Cold Cold Night" well, and from what I've read, she's the editor of the band, one of the few people Jack White really listens to. This could be interesting. Or it could be a total mess. Or it could be completely untrue - that linked report is about as thin a reed as there could be.

― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah - since when has metronomic been a bad thing, anyway?

liebzeit/dinger to thread

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

can meg be a 'mess' live? she flails about the place, but i cant imagine her getting that out of control to be messy. ive DLd quite a few stripes shows off the net but never thought of her as messy. a bit clunky at times, yes.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, by "mess" I was referring to their prospective solo outputs. As for her drumming, I only saw them once, but she made at least two or three tempo burps that were jarring enough to cause the audience to stop bopping and look around confused, as though a CD had skipped, and caused Jack White to take a quick look over his shoulder as if to see whether she was OK.

― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Her drumming aside (okay, she obviously has no chops, but she's still perfect for the band), it doesn't seem like being a professional musician is her one and only dream, just something she did, judging from interviews and stuff. Now she can just move to a city she likes, install herself as a hipster queen and live off what must be an assload of money for the rest of her life.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I imagine that if Meg were to do a solo record, she'd probably be mostly singing rather than drumming.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

She should hire Jack to play drums.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope that she veers somewhat from jack's american folk/old country fetish. i dunno why, but its that part of the stripes that makes me most uncomfortable.

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe she'll make an avant-garde drum-based album. the part of jack that makes me the most uncomortable is when he affects that country/blues singer voice as on ball and biscuit or his cover of lord send me an angel.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you seen them in interviews? Jack's HORRIBLE to Meg. I think he's a dick. And the White Stripes are overrated.

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

hes not horrible, she seems to prefer not to speak that much. i heard them on the radio being interviewed by the world class interviewer jo whiley, and she doesnt seem to be that overtly chatty.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

the white stripes is wack as fuck

― yo yo yo, Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

word!

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

In the few interviews I've seen of the White Stripes (and I'm not a fan, so it's not very many), Jack's taken every opurtunity he could to belittle Meg, and she seemed quite intimidated by him.

― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

she should hit him with her rhythm stick.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Them be tough editors over at Yahoo Launch. They have Jack White's cousin saying he hasn't talked to Jack White, but the buzz in Detroit is that the White Stripes are breaking up. Unsubstantiated rumours = let's break this story, go to press quick!

― Gregory T (tubesocks), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

"It's a little like when Pavement split, and there were all of these weird Spiral partisans who insisted that he'd have the better solo career, and history has proven them to be strange, delusional people who'd prefer to side with Mommy rather than Daddy in the band break-up."

to this i must say, can you consider pig lib to be worth the disc it's on??? i have a hard time with all SM's solo stuff (a scant few songs on the 1st, if that)...while SS's stuff has proven WAY most consistent and actually enjoyable instead of just plain out smug.

malkmus needs a swift kick in the ego. maybe another solo album will put the nails into his indie-coffin...

so, where did you come up with this one, btw?

― eedd, Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

what no bruised eyes this time through?

― kephm, Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

ahh, both of their solo work sucks IMHO. SS just absorbed Oranger's horrid generic guitar rock, and Malkmus turned into a tuneless wanker and an insufferable lyricist. Apart from "Church on White" I kinda wished neither of them released anything post-Pavement. (seems to me that when a band breaks up, very very few people create solo work that matches the quality of the original band. it's hard for me to even think of more than one or two examples. solo work almost uniformly = decline in quality)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

"i hope that she veers somewhat from jack's american folk/old country fetish. i dunno why, but its that part of the stripes that makes me most uncomfortable."

-Sorry Peter, but Meg is actually the groups MAIN country fan.

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I was sure this would be a Duffman thread.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.rob-clarkson.com/duff-brewery/duffman/03.jpg

Duffman says a lot of things. OH YEAAAAH!

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

How much money has she made, though? Jack's the primary songwriter, so most of the publishing revenue goes to him. All told they've sold maybe 1.5mln albums, right? We're not talking luxury-for-life income.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

she lives in Detroit, though. $40K for a house.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I'm sure she's got beer-for-life income at least.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

doesnt she live with some girl from the von bondies in a flat in detroit?

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

boy THAT must be AWKWARD.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

or HOT.

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd love to hear JW behind a full band.

WIZARDISHUNGRY?!

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i think JW should have another guitarist for rhythm guitar, he can still be the lead. then he should get a drummer, and leave it at that. it could be cool.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

funnily enough, this news story has been culled from my cover feature in Kerrang! this week (*not* 6music), where the quote is dropped in with no fanfare. it's not news that Jack doesn't consider the White Stripes to have a long shelf-life and, in the original printed piece, that's how it reads - Ben not confirming that the White Stripes will split, but that if they do he will still make great music.

this Launch piece is just another example of shitty journalism.

― stevie (stevie), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

so the dirtbombs are on the cover of this weeks kerrang? excellent!

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i wish. white stripes tho! (dirtbombs were ace in brighton last night, ended their set with ben singing 'dirt' by the stooges and being bum-humped by a drunk fan who he initially knocked to the ground mid-stagedive.

― stevie (stevie), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

If that was Ben on Wednesday night, he's really sweet. Cute, too. ;-)

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

that would have made my day if they were. why are the stripes on covers again so soon? they dont have anything new out, not even a single, and their DVD(s?) arent out til christmas i think....

saw the dirtbombs last time at the garage in 2003, they did sly stones underdog which was brilliant. was gonna see them again this year but i think i might have missed it. mick collins is the man though.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Its a tie-in with the Reading Festival. Trust me, it's not just another 'White Stripes' piece - there's new details in there, I tried to make it an intimate portrait.

― stevie (stevie), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

ben's a sweetheart kate... he ended dirtbombs' brighton show last night singing 'dirt' by the stooges, stagediving and knocking a guy flying - said guy finished the song dry-humping ben as he wailed on the floor into the mic. ladies and gentlemen, *that's* rock'n'roll...

― stevie (stevie), Friday, 20 August 2004 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

...no it's a drunk guy spilling his beer.

― dave amos, Friday, 20 August 2004 11:43 (twenty-one years ago)

The White Stripes should transform into a Royal Trux-like band. It would be the best shit ever.

― ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Friday, 20 August 2004 11:44 (twenty-one years ago)

i think JW should form a pixies tribute band. ive always thought he reminded me of frank black more than robert plant. i might be alone in this though.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Friday, 20 August 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Why not have JW do a Probot-style pop project where he collaborates with Frank Black and other greatz.

― ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Friday, 20 August 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

an album by Jack White And Friends - Let's Paint the Town Red.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:02 (twenty-one years ago)

to this i must say, can you consider pig lib to be worth the disc it's on???

Yes. One of the best albums of 2003, no less.

i have a hard time with all SM's solo stuff (a scant few songs on the 1st, if that)

Too bad. You're missing out.

...while SS's stuff has proven WAY most consistent and actually enjoyable instead of just plain out smug.

Ah, okay, I'm not going to fight about this, but I can't agree with that. The first Preston School record was solid but totally forgettable indie rock, but I think that the one they put out this year is deeply awful, just a total embarassment.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Meg White getting screwed? Good lord, she's the luckiest mediocre drummer who has ever lived. She probably made over a million bucks. Hope she invests it wisely.

― shookout (shookout), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

no it's a drunk guy spilling his beer

THAT'S rock & roll.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 20 August 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

all the locals in my pub ARE rock n roll.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Friday, 20 August 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Raise your hand if you want to hear Mo Tucker solo records.

― Not that Jack, Friday, 20 August 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"The first Preston School record was solid but totally forgettable indie rock."

i can totally understand why you'd say that, alas, i haven't even heard Monsoon, and word on the street is i'm not missing much, so that ball is also fair game, too.

but, pig lib being one of the best of '03? c'mon...it wasn't THAT bad of a year. there was just soo little to like about it. it's bland in ways i never dreamed malkmus could do. but, with all this said, i think shakey mo summed it up pretty well. while i do enjoy parts of both solo albums from the pair, it kinda tarnishes what they accomplished before as neither hits the highmarks like they did together.

but, this being a white stripes thread, it'd sorta be a shame, but, i wouldn't find myself missing them. they got some good stomp and yell songs...

― eedd, Friday, 20 August 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

C'mon, "Oyster" and "Water and a Seat" are two of the best songs ever, and the rest of the record is pretty great too. Nothing bland about that record.

I remember someone saying that Pig Lib, "1% of One" in particular, was like Malk-porn - all the pop and solos that a hardcore fan could ever want, but blown out to a radical extreme. I think that's definitely true.

Monsoon is really badly played and poorly sung super-drab alt-country.

I find it kinda gross that anyone would think that continuing on with one's art on one's own "tarnishes" a person's past work. That's a totally ridiculous idea, and extremely anti-art.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Saturday, 21 August 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

it IS kinda gross when the artist involved seems to be playing sub-par (for them). and if continuing on that same sub-standard level IS tarnishing what they already did. and for the most part i say that because usually, but not always, they give an interview with stuff like 'it's the best thing i've ever done!' type crappola. if anything's "anti-art" about it, it's doing something that doesn't even measure up to what you were acheiving less than a decade ago. ridiculous, it may be, but hey. i've been known to be worse...

now, as far as '1%' being the ultimate malk song, i'd have to say nay-nay, mah daime. it's all pomp, no circumstance.just wankin without a clue. it's a shame, too. SM's solo's used to make the hairs on my neck stand on end, now, they just kinda hang out in mid-air, goin nowhere. too phishy. and if that's what a 'hardcore' malk fan wants, then so be it, i'm not hardcore then.

i will concede "Do Not Feed the Oysters". that song IS pretty awesome, but, it's the exception and not the rule on Pig Lib.

alas, dear mathew, we've come to a difference of opinion that won't budge.
i'm going to bet that you think that Terror Twilight was a good album, true? i maintain that it's the first SM solo, minus a few songs that it actually sounds like pavement. pavement died with "Brighten" and got it's funeral pyre(sp) at Coachella. though,i can't defend SS's solo work too far, i will keep it on rotation due to it's lack of snarkiness and smugness. opinions shall differ.

― eedd, Sunday, 22 August 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

they shall huh? whatta twat

― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

mine doesn't differ.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

as far as '1%' being the ultimate malk song

I didn't say that it was the ultimate Malkmus song, I said that it was like Malkmus porn.

then so be it, i'm not hardcore then.

Yeah, probably not.

I think that Malkmus has never made anything less than a great album, and as good as Terror Twilight is, it's the weakest of the 7 LPs (I don't count Westing, cos those are all eps).

I'm wondering why anyone with such an aversion to snark would ever bother with the Pavemen to begin with...

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

When I form my cover band, it's gonna be The Pavemen.

Have to toss a vote of support for Mr. Perpetua. I get off the Pavement bus after S&E, but I still think that last Malkmus album was pretty great. Surprised the hell out of me.

― dlp9001, Monday, 23 August 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

"I find it kinda gross that anyone would think that continuing on with one's art on one's own "tarnishes" a person's past work. That's a totally ridiculous idea, and extremely anti-art. "

Oh gimme a break - let's make a list of all the people who's solo work triumphs over their "famous band" work and see how long it is. I'm not anti-art, I'm just pointing out a trend, a very common career arc trend that has afflicted the vast majority of musicians. In general, people tend to get worse when they break up a band and go on to make solo records. It's just a adjunct of getting older, tireder, fewer ideas but also fewer professional limitations, etc. And Malkmus is no exception in my book.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 August 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm wondering why anyone with such an aversion to snark would ever bother with the Pavemen to begin with... "

well, to begin with not all pavement has the total snark that the later pavement does. it used to have an element of humor or just plain out wierdness to it. at some point (i'm guessing after Wowee, i may be wrong) it started turning into a truly snide thing, esp. w/ malkmus, his temperment seemed to drift into 'i'm WAY too cool to be here.' sorta thing. but, don't get me wrong, i do love some of it, just not all and i don't buy into his attitude at all. i've said it before, that self-satisfied smug routine he's got going on is way overdone. i hope it's a stage persona, and not really him acting like that...

― eedd, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

The weird thing is, Terror Twilight, Pig Lib and the self-titled record have some of the most sentimental, unguarded songs of his career - some straight up romance and break-up songs. So it's a bit like he's overcompensating with the smirky lines to keep some people from paying as much attention to the earnest stuff. I really think that you're not giving him enough credit, really.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I really use the word really way too often when I write. Really.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Shakey Mo: In general, people tend to get worse when they break up a band and go on to make solo records.

So, now that you've broken up your old band and have a new project (even though it's mostly the same people), do you feel that you suck now? Are you all out of ideas? Is Sunset Homes tarnishing your legacy?

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

peter smith:female drummers like moe tucker and ikue mori have taken the end of a band career as an opportunity to explore and do some stuff off the beaten-path
Huck:Like working at K-Mart?
Moe Tucker B Keepin' it Real and shit.
(Actually, it's not her fault that her fine solo records sell only about 5 copies apiece. WE ARE ALL TO BLAME! So...give generously to the Let Moe Tucker Have a Day Off From Her Greeter Job. You...yes, you...can, for just pennies a day, keep this alt rock icon from having to wear day-glo red polyester vests and say 'Howdy' to complete strangers. So... give today.)

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't think i need to give SM anymore credit than i already have. there was a time when i thought the man could do no wrong, but, then he did. but, it's all my opinion.

as much i as i don't really enjoy TT as a whole, there ARE moments where it shines- Major Leagues, Spit on a Stranger,Cream of Gold, the Hexx (...and then), and to a lesser point, Carrot Rope- but, to me, it has a 'phoned in' quality to it. i'm sure others would say the same about a lot of pavements later stuff.

but, hey, this is White Stripes Break Up thread, right?
so, did/are they???
inquiring twat-minds wanna know.

― eedd, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

"So, now that you've broken up your old band and have a new project (even though it's mostly the same people), do you feel that you suck now? Are you all out of ideas? Is Sunset Homes tarnishing your legacy? "

haha - we shall see, won't we? I also don't consider the Shimmer Kids much of a success, at least not in the respect that anyone thinks we have some kind of "legacy" to live up to. But what do I know.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

very good piece on JW in last weeks kerrang. got it over the weekend.

― dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

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