Progressive Hairspray Warz (Styx and Stones) -- Taking Sides: Queensryche vs Winger

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Who was reading guitar mags 89-91? Right now I'd say Winger has the edge in the guitar solo twiddle domain - the aerial whammy bar acrobatics in "Headed for a Heartbreak" and super-"Heartbreaker" everyone-stop-look-at-me-I'VE-BEEN-PRACTISING-I-BENCH-PRESS-WITH-MY-LEFT-HAND-FINGERS-LOOK-AT-ME-GODDAMNIT shred break in "Madeleine" are pretty unquestionable. Queensryche's operatics and conceptual collage leanings set them apart but do they make them more or less fun than really wanky songs about chix0rs? Was this music more or less authentically 'progressive' than Styx/Kansas by being a reactionary bastion of 'musicianship' amid crass hair metal hordes? Is that a good or bad thing? Will anyone else be abject enough to even think about this question (dave q I'm looking at you with puppy dog eyes)?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 26 September 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

both crap.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 26 September 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, in a sense, yes. But still.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 26 September 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Queensryche's records at least sounded "metal." Winger was produced like a pop act (and rightfully so).

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 26 September 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Not really a fair comparison, though, really. Queensryche, for all their faults (of which there are many) were certainlty more of an orthodox metal band (rife with dubious prog leanings) who initially didn't give a tinker's cuss to appeal to the pop/mainstream audience. Conversely, Winger -- despite Kip Winger's tenure in Alice Cooper's band -- were simply a pop band in metal clothing.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 26 September 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

both utter crap.
if you like whang-bar dive bombs and blistering fretwork, search The Boneless Ones. some of the nastiest, most shredding guitar around, and not wanky at all. this guy should be up there with the gods of metal, but he's pretty much unknown. maybe his hair was too dull.

― m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Monday, 27 September 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

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