― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Monday, 27 September 2004 07:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, 27 September 2004 07:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Monday, 27 September 2004 07:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Monday, 27 September 2004 07:58 (twenty-one years ago)
I'm glad you two spoke up. I was biting my tongue. Anyone here read Gira's book The Consumer? Nah, probably not. Extremely warped and perverted. Honestly I just can't imagine him and Madonna even getting along. Ken I'm sure you mean well, but...you certainly have the burden of proof on this one.
― Bimble (bimble), Monday, 27 September 2004 08:00 (twenty-one years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Monday, 27 September 2004 08:10 (twenty-one years ago)
KIM: No, we like her.
THURSTON: No, we like her a lot. We just like that one song.
KIM: I think she's becoming a bit driven, though...
THURSTON: ...no, it's like, she the kind of person who insinuates being real populist, and at the same time a like Lower East Side loft kind of mentality or something. It's too obvious, now. I mean, we never wanted to try to exploit that we like Mandonna, it just sorta happened. We did that song . . .
CY: Did you ever get in trouble for that? Legal trouble at all?
THURSTON: Supposedly she heard it, and said it's OK, she just won't tell her management. And she's like, she used to live in New York, she went out with a friend of ours for a while, and I won't tell you who, because you know who it is. And she was in this band called "Spinal...", this weird Gang-of-Four-ish new wave band, with these kids who were in Deep Six, Circus Mort, who turned into the Swans. I mean, there's a weird connection there; so she is actuallypart of the Swans thing.
(http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/cc/092087.html)S: Madonna is part of the whole Swans trip? This has the makings of a real underground Weekly World News story. . .
THURSTON: Weekly Weird News.
S: A real news flash: Madonna went out with Michael Gira, we have pictures.
THURSTON: Why Michael Gira?
S: Well, I don't know, you said she was hanging out with the Swans, I mean...
THURSTON: Well, you can't say Michael Gira, 'cause he'd be offended. Michael Gira would be very offended.
KIM: Yeah, he's a very private person.
THURSTON: Well, when she used to play around, we used to always hate her, 'cause she's such a jerk. She used to like... well, there's this guy she used to go out with we know, she used to sit on his lap, the whole time like looking around...
― snazz, Monday, 27 September 2004 08:11 (twenty-one years ago)
― snazz, Monday, 27 September 2004 08:13 (twenty-one years ago)
I don't know what to do but laugh my ass off at this point.
And damnit I've been meaning to pull out that Ciccone Youth tape for 7 billion years. There's something on there I really liked and I never went back to it. ARgh.
― Bimble (bimble), Monday, 27 September 2004 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Monday, 27 September 2004 08:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Monday, 27 September 2004 08:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Monday, 27 September 2004 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Monday, 27 September 2004 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Monday, 27 September 2004 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Monday, 27 September 2004 08:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― NickB (NickB), Monday, 27 September 2004 08:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Monday, 27 September 2004 08:59 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 27 September 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Monday, 27 September 2004 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 27 September 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Free the Bee (ex machina), Monday, 27 September 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Free the Bee (ex machina), Monday, 27 September 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Monday, 27 September 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)
And people still read Spin?
― Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Formerly Lee G (Formerly Lee G), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Monday, 27 September 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)
Are you thinking of Dennis Rodman? Apropos of an invitation from Madonna?
― DJ Mencap0))), Tuesday, 28 September 2004 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)
an ex-swan who posts to the manhattan before 1990 fb group posted on an old pic of madonna that "she was dating the lead singer of my band when this photo was taken."
― mitt fleekwood (get bent), Saturday, 17 January 2015 02:26 (eleven years ago)
re-poll Justify My Love: Madonna's Boyfriends, Girlfriends, Husbands et al (A silly poll)
― mookieproof, Saturday, 17 January 2015 02:34 (eleven years ago)
was she sitting on his lap?
― flopson, Saturday, 17 January 2015 06:38 (eleven years ago)
Funny I just came across the Gira/Madonna story somewhere recently too. Can't think where though. Thought it was a direct reference to him shagging her in a certain location which I also don't remember.Otherwise I might think it could have been a Spin I still had at my mother's place or other interview from mid 80s. Bob Stanley doesn't refer to it does he? Think that's about the only recent thing I'm reading that might touch on either NY Noise or Madonna.
― Stevolende, Saturday, 17 January 2015 08:50 (eleven years ago)
ILXor to the rescue: http://vassifer.blogs.com/alexinnyc/2013/10/return-again-to-danceteria.html
― StanM, Saturday, 17 January 2015 11:43 (eleven years ago)
I am positive that I read an interview with Thurston/Kim where they goes into this, they mention Gira saying "you won't believe how beautiful this girl is" or some such
actually looked through some old zines last night, but no dice.
― some kind of terrible IDM with guitars (sleeve), Saturday, 17 January 2015 17:47 (eleven years ago)