When did today begin?

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Looking at photos/vids of the Beatles through their existance, the early days (short hair, suits/ties, bowing after each song) have no real correlation to nowadays. You get to mid period Revolver, particularly the in-the-studio pics, and it looks more like nowadays. To me, anyway.

Then again, I am medium old. You guys what are a bit (or a lot) older, what seems to you to be 'before nowadays'? Whereabouts does "todays" start? What does and/or does not look like now?

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 30 September 2004 07:47 (twenty-one years ago)

today started at 12:01 am

― lukey (Lukey G), Thursday, 30 September 2004 07:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I reckon it started at 12.00 really.

― mei (mei), Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Though when that was depends on the time zone you're in.

― mei (mei), Thursday, 30 September 2004 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 1 October 2004 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i lost sight of it.

some guy came up to me before a casual game of soccer recently. Some guy from the other team. I was finishing doing some stretches before kick off. I see him each week. Sometimes he's on my team. He's a big guy, plays at the back. Likes to hit loooooong balls (he's good at it)

He looked at my hair and said "jees, gaz. how old are ya, mate?"

i was too shocked to answer.

he said "we've gotta leave the kids something, mate,"

i opened my mouth but no sound emerged.

"we've had it all." he continued. "We've had the hair before. We've had the clothes. Fuck, mate, we've done the wild stuff at open air concerts"

"I'm 42," i managed. "My wife cuts my hair"

He laughed. "Ya wife!" he exclaimed. "My wife would kill me if i ever had a cut like that!"

And i don't know, mark. When did today begin? When did I get to be the old guy some folk laugh at?

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 1 October 2004 11:13 (twenty-one years ago)

When did I get to be the old guy some folk laugh at?

And when will Paul McCartney realise this is what he is?

― Jedermann sein eigener Fussball (Dada), Friday, 1 October 2004 11:15 (twenty-one years ago)

no comment

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 1 October 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

My dad reckons in the early to mid 60s because that's when b/w films stopped being made. Or maybe because that's when he was growing up. My mum reckons the death of Jimi. I reckon the death of Lennon. Not because I particularly adore Lennon but because the 80s seem so different from the 70s.

― beanz (beanz), Friday, 1 October 2004 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i was wondering whether to mention puffer jackets but i realised i didn't know whether anyone liked them still.

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 1 October 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I was born in 62.
"Nowadays" began in the summer of 67.
And again in the summer of 71.
And again in the summer of 76.
And again in the summer of 82.
And again in the summer of 88.
And again in the autumn of 95.
And again in the autumn of 01.
Everything before each of those dates feels, on some level, like "the old days".

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 1 October 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

mike yr the sam age as me!

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 1 October 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

which means i'm a li'l bit older than (eihter) of you

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 1 October 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh, my eyesight's shit too, obv (h)aha

o well, "today" started roughly in 1974, at least for me (h)ah(a)

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 1 October 2004 13:22 (twenty-one years ago)

1972 was when I took more of an interest in music, when School's Out was number one and seemed the height of subversion at the time...

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 1 October 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

my mum cannot live without the radio.

it must have been 1970?1971? that i decided i hated pop music.

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 1 October 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

82 was the start of today. I'm 29.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 1 October 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"it was twenty years ago today"

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 1 October 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Old folx be talkin!

― The Bitter Tears Of Little Lord Travolta (nordicskilla), Friday, 1 October 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

how's yer disco dancing lately, travolta?

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 1 October 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

While you're in a transitional period, you usually don't realize it until after the entire transformation has occured. I would say once the realisation takes place, that's when "today" begins.

I thought of an example of how "today" is essentially marked by the success of Britney Spears and reality TV, and how Hanson/Spice Girls/BSB/*NSync/etc and MTV's 90's reality shows were sort of the transitional period. I'm not quite sure if the example makes complete sense..

― billstevejim, Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:26 (twenty-one years ago)

In a similar manner, no one really thought the Beatles were going to last until A Hard Days Night, which marked the beginning of that particular "today." Everything before that would have been transitional. .. I guess...

― billstevejim, Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought this was going to be a "what time did you start drinking today" thread. I mean, it's friday

― Sonny, Ah!!1 (Sonny A.), Saturday, 2 October 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

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