More comments here by others https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/01/25/pazz-jop-comments-protests-and-escapes/
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 27 January 2018 00:22 (six years ago) link
if it's the comment I think it is that sounds intriguing
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 27 January 2018 00:41 (six years ago) link
this was mine:
ALBUMS
01. Susanne Sundfor: Music For People In Trouble02. Julie Byrne: Not Even Happiness03. Kelela: Take Me Apart04: Perfume Genius: No Shape05. SZA: CTRL06. MUNA: About U07. Lorde: Melodrama08. Baths: Romaplasm09. Kelly Lee Owens: Kelly Lee Owens10. Jessie Ware: Glasshouse
SONGS
01. SZA ft. Travis Scott: "Love Galore"02. Mondo Grosso ft. Hikari Mitsushima: "Labyrinth"03. Lorde: "Supercut"04. Slowdive: "Slomo"05. Wolf Alice: "Don't Delete The Kisses"06. Hercules & Love Affair ft. Sharon Van Etten: "Omnion"07. yaeji: "raingurl"08. Tove Lo: "Disco Tits"09. Phoebe Bridgers: "Motion Sickness"10. Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith: "To Feel Your Best"
― joshywinty (josh), Saturday, 27 January 2018 01:56 (six years ago) link
ALBUMSJakuzi – Fantezi Müzik (City Slang) 15Kenji Minogue – En Dermee (Music Mania) 13Louis Sclavis – Frontières (JMs) 12Reniss –Tendon (New Bell) 12Scooter – Scooter Forever (Sheffield Tunes) 11Cabbage – Young Dumb and Full Of… (Skeleton Key) 10Charlie Worsham – Beginning Of Things (Warner Bros.) 8Bruce Cockburn -Bone On Bone (True North) 7Carlinhos Brown – Semelhantes (Candyall) 6Nadia Rose – Highly Flammable (Relentless) 6
SINGLESBaghi Mann – Soorme (Jass)Haley Georgia - Shots (Haley Georgia)Kabeer Nasha – Aaj Club Mein (Turban Hits)Omar Souleyman – Ya Bnayya (Mad Decent)Meet Bros. – Roar on the Shore (Party Mix) (Meet Bros.)Haley Georgia – Becky (Haley Georgia)Lindsey Buckingham & Christie McVie – In My World (Atlantic)Heize – Hello! UFO (Universal)Sevyn Streeter – Before I Do (Atlantic)Tuxedo – 2nd Time Around (Stones Throw)
― xheddy, Saturday, 27 January 2018 15:32 (six years ago) link
Albums
Kendrick Lamar-DamnSZA-CTRLYemi Alade-Black MagicTrio Da Kali & Kronos Quartet-LadilikanOumou Sangare-MogoyaNew Pornographers-Whiteout ConditionsMoses Sumney-AromanticismVarious Artist, Trailride Music Vol. 1Daniel Caesar-FreudianMs. Jody- Thunder Under Yonder
Songs
Kendrick Lamar-DNASZA-Love GaloreMary J. Blige-Thick of ItJ. Balvin & Willy William- Mi GenteFuture-Mask OffMigos-Bad and BoujeeOlamide-Wo!!Goldlink (ft. Brent Faiyaz and Shy Glizzy)- CrewThe Courtneys-Silver VelvetSam Hunt -Body Like a Back Road
― curmudgeon, Sunday, 28 January 2018 04:03 (six years ago) link
https://www.villagevoice.com/2018/01/25/pazz-jop-comments-the-top-albums-and-singles/
― curmudgeon, Monday, 29 January 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link
so it looks like Uproxx is going to try to pick up the Pazz & Jop torch.
hey twitter -- ballots for @uproxx's first music critics poll just went out. @Philip_Cosores and i did our best compiling a list of who might be interested. if you're a music writer who wants to vote, please send me an email: cait✧✧✧.wh✧✧✧@upr✧✧✧.c✧✧. all are welcome!— caitlin cristin (@harmonicait) December 3, 2018
reminder: Uproxx is owned by Warner Music.
this bothers me. does it bother others or is it an unavoidable fact of music-critic life in 2018?
― alpine static, Monday, 3 December 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link
uproxx has bigger problems than its owners
― maura, Monday, 3 December 2018 22:31 (five years ago) link
https://deadspin.com/reading-product-plugs-from-joshua-tree-helped-me-unders-1822234122
Voting for U2's 'Joshua Tree' Helped Me Understand My Own Twisted Heart
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2018 22:36 (five years ago) link
Did anybody here get one of these invite emails? I didn't.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 3 December 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link
Yep.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 December 2018 22:44 (five years ago) link
I dunno if I want to participate. If you email her, I'm told, she'll allow you to participate.
I don't want to participate. I voted in The Wire's poll and the NPR jazz critics' poll, and wrote a jazz top ten for Stereogum. I'm listed out.
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 3 December 2018 23:03 (five years ago) link
I sent them an email. I love skewing whatever lists there are with my questionable musical taste as long as I feel qualified to make a list. When I stopped writing I didn't. But now I do.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 3 December 2018 23:09 (five years ago) link
fuck this imo
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Monday, 3 December 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link
r.i.p. pazz & jop
― dyl, Monday, 3 December 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link
My list is already sponsored by Arby's.
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 01:08 (five years ago) link
@maura oh I know. besides ownership issues, I can’t really stand the thought of her and P.C. as gatekeepers for “the” big critics’ list
― alpine static, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 02:00 (five years ago) link
http://cleverbeans.blogspot.com/2006/12/pazznjopnhinder.html
― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 4 December 2018 02:35 (five years ago) link
hmmmmm re uproxx, I dunno
― curmudgeon, Friday, 7 December 2018 05:48 (five years ago) link
Let it die.
― Yerac, Friday, 7 December 2018 06:27 (five years ago) link
Let’s face it, Pazz and Jop was running on some serious fumes those last couple years. It got to the point where all the things that made it special in the first place were gone. Near the end there was no Robert Christgau year-in-review essay, there was no “see what your favorite critics voted for” webpage, there were no Singles Jukebox-y critic blurbs. So in the end all you had left was the same list of albums and singles that I can just go to Metacritic and get myself whenever I want. So yes, let it die.
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 7 December 2018 11:40 (five years ago) link
The last couple years’ P&Js couldn’t even get their own ILM thread.
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 7 December 2018 11:42 (five years ago) link
My own interest aside--I never hesitated for a second as to whether I'd participate; I planned to keep going for as long as they kept me on the mailing list--I agree. Honestly, the actual results lost all interest for me somewhere in the middle of the '90s.
This will be lost to history, but I bet I submitted more Pazz & Jop commentary than anyone this side of Christgau. Only a tiny fraction of it ever made it into print, but from '97 through to last year, I'd send in two or three pages of comments on my singles list every year--somewhere between 25-30,000 words, I'd estimate. Maybe I'm wrong; maybe a lot of voters did that. My sense is that most ballots were much shorter, and that many came in with no comments at all.
― clemenza, Sunday, 9 December 2018 06:11 (five years ago) link
Wow, that’s a lot of comments. You’re probably right.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 10 December 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link
I have no idea how people wrote comments for those, by late December the thought of writing anything is like the thought of scooping my brain out with an ice pick (or rather, more like that than usual)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 10 December 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link
I contributed comments from 2003 to about 2012, then realized I was repeating stuff from other published things.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 December 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link
I voted. The email I got asked for pitches for essays for what it's worth but didn't seem to solicit comments.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 00:15 (five years ago) link
The number and length of comments I send decreased over the years as I got more and more assignments, and the desire to be part of that aspect of P&J lessened somewhat.
― Groove(box) Denied (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 11 December 2018 00:57 (five years ago) link
I... just got my ballot?
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
lol I was just coming here to post that
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link
Last year, writing in his Pazz + Jop essay, Robert Christgau called the poll “America’s most comprehensive survey of ‘rock critic’ taste,” and we’re happy to say that that legacy will continue with this year’s poll, as well as the essays, analysis and voter comments that have accompanied Pazz + Jop in the past.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link
who's doing it?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link
The email is from "The Village Voice" and says the poll will be posted on their site. But no editor name on the email
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link
Ballots due 12 noon Friday January 4
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I got an email asking for a ballot as well... Strange!
I'm definitely gonna send them my list. I already have it made up so it's no real extra work.
In fact anyone who wants it I'll be happy to tell them.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link
it's a phishing scam, but they're phishing for music recs
― bros before HOOS (voodoo chili), Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link
wonder how uproxx feels right now
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link
Mystified. It's like...a bankrupt store announcing a final sale after they've vacated the premises?
― clemenza, Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link
thank god, one more list to tell us that mitski and kacey musgraves made the best albums of the year
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link
― clemenza, Thursday, December 20, 2018 11:27 AM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I hear if you submit a ballot you get a great deal on copper wiring.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link
Forks said:Hi! Could you clarify who is running this poll and how the (now defunct) Village Voice is involved?
D@v1d Sw@ns0n said:Sure. We have a skeleton editorial crew who are working on the Voice archives project, and given that we have the capability to continue the poll, we wanted to do so. And I’m happy to answer any other questions.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:41 (five years ago) link
well christgau says it's ok
WOL? LUT? Huh? But just for the record, I knew Pazz & Jop 2018 was in the works and I'm voting. In fact, I'm kinda proud. The list has been updated, and any cross-publication/generation poll will will be better than none. I urge anyone who gets a ballot to participate. https://t.co/41mTiOM5pE— Robert Christgau (@rxgau) December 20, 2018
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 20 December 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link
Swanson answer is OK by me. Def voting in this. F Uproxx.
― alpine static, Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:16 (five years ago) link
lmao wol & lut
― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
but, as i've said before, any effort by anyone to run this thing without updating this site is incomplete: http://furia.com/pjs/table_voter_all_total.html
― alpine static, Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link
I would be happy to donate to a Kickstarter to get 2017 updated in there if Gl3nn names his price
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link
i'd love to see a kickstarter to get that site updated for 2017 and 2018, and then start moving backward, too. i assume the voting data is long gone, but it'd be nice to go back as far as possible. that site is *already/still* a great resource .... it'd be even better if it went back a decade or two.
― alpine static, Thursday, 20 December 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link