Why is The Radio Dept. being, like, so ignored by Indiedom?

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The Radio Dept. is, like, my new favorite band right now, living somewhere between My Bloody Valentine and Lansing-Dreiden:

ihttp://www.xlrecordings.com/theradiodept/

For some reason they seem to have been largely ignored by the press this year (I'm looking at you, Pitchfork!), but this thread aims to fix that. Streaming audio tracks (Real Audio) available on the XL website. Go check it out there, then head over to SLSK and you know what.

Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 19:50 (nineteen years ago) link

they rock. inna kind-of waking-from-a-dream-pop stylee. love 'em to bits, and am slowly amassing as much of their stuff as possible. i put "slottet" on a CD i've just done for my mate who's "gone off music". it's after interpol ("not even jail") and before pelican ("drought"), and works beautifully.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Radio Dept. came out on Shelflife in the U.S. more than 18 months ago. It was in PFM's WATW at the time and, even though it's getting a lot of notice in the UK in the past few months, it was sort of decided that it was too old of a release to cover in the album reviews. (fwiw, I like 'em)

scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 19:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm, I couldn't find it on Pitchfork or Google

ihttp://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22radio+dept.%22+pitchfork

Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 20:09 (nineteen years ago) link

hmm, I can't seem to find the original entry either, but apparently it was in Oct. 03 and it made that month's 'best of' mix:

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/wearetheworld/features/03-10-mixproject.shtml

scott pl. (scott pl.), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

STREET TEAM GAYLORDS

TITS.JPG (ex machina), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link

these guys have been getting hype just under the radar for like what, 2 years straight now? I'd hardly say they are being ignored.

Avi (Avi), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 20:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Tits.Jpg, how would you like to win a pair of tickets to see The Radio Dept. play in your hometown!?!?! Watch ILM for more details...

Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 21:03 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe everyone has moved onto suburban kids with biblical names now?

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link

the world isnt ready for a shoegazing revival... just yet...

and thats the sad truth..

danny boy (danny boy), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Are they REALLY as good as Lansing-Dreiden?

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Radio Dept have some vague post-shoegazing sonic tendencies but I think it's completely off to call them shoegazers or shoegaze revivalists: there's a duct-tape bedroomy sound to some of this stuff that strikes me as having more to do with Russian Futurists or Rocketship or even old Magnetic Fields than any big shoegazer band-in-a-room. And yeah, coverage-wise it's down to exactly what Scott said: it didn't get that proper publicity-driven on-the-release-date coverage, and over the course of its slow-burn bubbling-up reception it was kinda too late for outlets to really hop on it. This is incidentally one thing I dislike about review outlets of all sort, not just music: I don't understand the need to be timely with everything. Obviously there's a kind of admission-of-failure that goes with coming around to something a bit late, but it seems like if something's great and people would like it and it isn't being covered or talked about elsewhere, there's no harm in hitting it.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 22 December 2004 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I just heard "Lesser Matters", and every track is appealing to me except maybe "Your Father".

I think a little bit of civilization went down the toilet when someone coined the term 'indiedom'.

me, Thursday, 23 December 2004 01:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"This is incidentally one thing I dislike about review outlets of all sort, not just music: I don't understand the need to be timely with everything."

I agree with you entirely on this point, Nabisco, and considering that, I guess I shouldn't have singled out Pitchfork, but I couldn't even find any serious discussion of The Radio Dept. on ILM, and I thought that was definitely a little weird... especially considering the ridiculous amount of talk that The Arcade Fire is "generating". Is this a regional thing? Do european (read: non-anglicans) artists necessarily have more to prove? Why?

Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Thursday, 23 December 2004 01:33 (nineteen years ago) link

these guys suck. subpar indie papp. plugging your guitar in direct doesn't make you shoegaze, it just makes the guitar sound like it's plugged in direct.

this is lo-fi bedroom generic indie straight from 1992. send it back.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 December 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link

and no, they sound NOTHING like lansing dreiden.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 December 2004 01:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Specific examples for my Lansing-Dreiden comparison: "Liebling" and "We Would Fall Agaisnt The Tide" off their Against The Tide EP.

Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Thursday, 23 December 2004 02:07 (nineteen years ago) link

that's ok, i still love you nancy boy.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 December 2004 02:08 (nineteen years ago) link

i heard lansing dreiden sounds like olivia tremor control

artdamages (artdamages), Thursday, 23 December 2004 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Aw, shucks.

Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Thursday, 23 December 2004 02:09 (nineteen years ago) link

NaBo: I dunno, the recent "good indie things" thread had more discussion of Radio Dept than most anything else. I don't know that their situation is one of having to "prove themselves," or anyway it's not that any more than it'd be for a good release that originated on a US label like Dougle Agent, Grimsey, or -- umm -- Shelflife. First off there's an inbuilt suspicion of this kind of thing, as there are always half a billion indie pop-type records with legions of indie pop-type people going "omigod it's the best thing ever"; in only about 10% of those cases is there even a shot of any crossover appeal. Second, there's no big publicity push to actually get these already-suspicious releases reviewed in a timely manner, and once they slip there's even less reason to believe they're worth making a late-breaking push about. Thirdly, in the case of Radio Dept, there's really no one-liner basis to make a push for it: cutty's right, it really is just yr basic bedroom-indie pop-type stuff.

I think anyone who's inclined to like any sort of genuine indie-indie pop stuff is going to wind up spending half of every year with head in hands wondering why that one the Truly Deserved to cross over never got the slightest bit of attention; this is possibly kind of a better situation, really, because it keeps us from ever having to discover the potential truth that nobody else would like this stuff anyway. I dunno -- I'm still thinking exactly the same kind of stuff about Toulouse's New Points New Lines, from a couple years back.

nabiscothingy (nory), Thursday, 23 December 2004 03:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually I meant to note that while cutty's right and this really is just kinda yr basic bedroom-indie pop-type stuff, I concur that it's particularly well-done basic bedroom-indie pop-type stuff. Which is the whole thing about this genre -- it's not actually generic! The whole beauty of listening to something like this or something like Russian Futurists is hearing someone sketch out his or her own particular idiosyncratic pop vision in miniature. It's never quite the same: you record an album in this way and no matter how much you try to slick it up it's going to come out sounding slightly weird and unmistakably just yours.

nabiscothingy (nory), Thursday, 23 December 2004 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Nabisco,
That "good indie thing" thread is actually where I first heard about The Radio Dept. If my memory serves, the whole point of that thread was to discuss bands that had been (undeservedly?) missed by el radar. I'm just wondering out loud why that happened to this particular band. I guess it has to do with distribution, PR, and the whole promotions apparatus...

As far as Cutty's comments about "lo-fi bedroom generic indie straight from 1992", I really don't see anything generic about it all. And some of my favorite bands have bedrooms, lo-fi or otherwise.

Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Thursday, 23 December 2004 05:28 (nineteen years ago) link

ok, i take it back, you are a moron.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 23 December 2004 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link

CUTTY IS OTM; YOU GUYS ARE GAY

TITS.JPG (ex machina), Thursday, 23 December 2004 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link

NEW POINTS NEW LINES

nabiscothingy (nory), Thursday, 23 December 2004 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link

their name is bad, I don't know about the music, but there's already a Radio 4 and a hundred other bands with Radio in their name. Surely we can be more creative than this.

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 23 December 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

my next band will be named Radio Band

kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 23 December 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Their name is Radioavdelningen. "The Radio Dept." is the english translation.

Kyle, you should name your next band "The Black Radio". Then you've got all your bases covered.

Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Thursday, 23 December 2004 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link

*This* is gay:

ihttp://ilx.p3r.net/userinfo.php?username=ex+machina

Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Thursday, 23 December 2004 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link

NEW POINTS NEW LINES

nabiscothingy (nory), Thursday, 23 December 2004 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

the new trembling blue stars single is totally rsdio dept but the rest of the album isn't.

keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 24 December 2004 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

"Brilliant recent indie/alt-rock/whatever for those who've lost interest in/touch with it all a bit"

iBrilliant recent indie/alt-rock/whatever for those who've lost interest in/touch with it all a bit

This is the thread Nabisco mentioned earlier

Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Friday, 24 December 2004 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Kyle, you should name your next band "The Black Radio". Then you've got all your bases covered.

wolf radio, surely

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Friday, 24 December 2004 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link

the wolf radios

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 24 December 2004 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Found this Audioscrobbler group "connected" to the Radio Dept.

ihttp://www.audioscrobbler.com/group/lostmusic

"We are here to find lost music that has been made or is waiting to be made. We want to find great new music. We want to rediscover music that, for whatever reason, has slipped off the radar. We also want to build a thriving community of like minded souls who can share their passion for music in an open and friendly environment.

"lostmusic likes its sounds in many different ways - subtle and aching, noisey and abrasive. We are suckers for a great melody and love music made with attitude out of love not greed. Our roots can be traced back to the 80's indie scene and beyond that to punk and further back to the 60's with The Velvet Underground and even further back to Elvis and the rockers of the 50's."

Also, "Wolf Radio" rules, but how about Radio Hague?

Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Saturday, 25 December 2004 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

i hate those lostmusic people.

:| (....), Saturday, 25 December 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

indie rock is dead

Julio Casablanco, Saturday, 25 December 2004 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link

dead as disco. in 1994.

:| (....), Saturday, 25 December 2004 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

They're releasing a new EP in January. It's called This Past Week and according to trustworthy sources it's supposed to be great. For all you fans of the album you MUST get hold of the EP called Pulling Our Weight. It was released after the album and it's even better than the album(if you can believe that). This band can do nothing wrong.

Crapstone (Crapstone), Saturday, 25 December 2004 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't get past the aroma of pale indie underachievement on the LP.

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 26 December 2004 00:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Is that new EP the "Ewan EP"?

Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Sunday, 26 December 2004 05:57 (nineteen years ago) link

No, that's not something official because they've never released any EP with that name. It's a song though.

Crapstone (Crapstone), Sunday, 26 December 2004 12:19 (nineteen years ago) link

it does exist, it was just released on XL. the newer ep is coming out on labrador.

keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 26 December 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

"it does exist, it was just released on XL. the newer ep is coming out on labrador."

okay, but that's a british/american release then. I live in sweden so we wont be getting that(or will we?). two of the songs are old and the third is not something I recognize..

Crapstone (Crapstone), Sunday, 26 December 2004 21:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Am I allowed to vote for the Radio Dept in my end of year list or is it too 2003, do you think?. 'Strange Things Will Happen' is pushing to be my favourite song of the year.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 30 December 2004 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

strange things will happen is their best tune, too bad it's the only track where that girl sings. if she were the voice of the band, i would actually like them.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 30 December 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Seems apropos that "Lesser Things" made Broken Social Scene's top 10 records of 2004.

Nancy Boy (Nancy Boy), Friday, 31 December 2004 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link

NEW POINTS NEW LINES

Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 11:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm hearing Junior Boys vibes with this one, more so than CtaS...

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 00:40 (seven years ago) link

This album is so good, it's like the best parts of their b-sides collection ("Passive Aggressive") mixed with CtaS.

Ross, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 00:40 (seven years ago) link

All their albums are awesome and this is no exception. Personally they are a top five band of the last 15 years.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 30 November 2016 00:54 (seven years ago) link

I think CtaS has the edge on this slightly

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 08:34 (seven years ago) link

I'll take "Pet Grief" over any of them. Yes, that album is more of a sustained mood, but it's unfuckwithable. Turned my co-worker onto their new album and he doesn't want to give the iPod back :-D

Ross, Thursday, 1 December 2016 01:07 (seven years ago) link

really jamming the hell out of this explicitly anti-fascist album lately

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Thursday, 1 December 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

i like these guys - clinging to a scheme is my favorite album. their upcoming show in philly tickets are only $15. what's their live show like - would i dig it should i go?

Mordy, Tuesday, 24 January 2017 23:58 (seven years ago) link

Never seen them but it's such a cheap show :) I'm going in late February

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Wednesday, 25 January 2017 01:01 (seven years ago) link

I saw them for the CTAS tour, and really enjoyed it, despite it being one of the last failed dates with my ex.

DJI, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 01:45 (seven years ago) link

Definitely go! The songs become something really special in a more intimate live setting.

Millsner, Wednesday, 25 January 2017 12:29 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

Saw Radio Dept. tonight. Technical difficulties forced their hand into playing less new songs. However, on the plus side they deviated from their standard set and played more oldies like "Always a Relief" and "Why Won't You Talk About It"!!

Everything Moves Towards The Sun (Ross), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 07:42 (seven years ago) link

Saw them a few weeks ago - they sounded fantastic though they have almost no stage presence whatsoever.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 19:02 (seven years ago) link

eight months pass...

aaaaa holy shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKDp3RtmePo

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Monday, 6 November 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link

so fucking good!!

joshywinty (josh), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link

Running Out of Love might be their best album yet. I wish they were more prolific.

Simon H., Tuesday, 7 November 2017 13:06 (six years ago) link

I love the Henning Furst remix on the new EP where he turns "We Got Game" into a reggae number with an interpolation of Inner City's "Good Life"

boxedjoy, Saturday, 11 November 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

https://soundcloud.com/the-radio-dept/your-true-name

new single!

ufo, Friday, 12 January 2018 12:24 (six years ago) link

yes!

Isi, Saturday, 13 January 2018 08:11 (six years ago) link

Can a band have an imperial phase this long into its career, and when no one notices? Death to Fascism/Occupied/This Repeated Sodomy/Swedish Guns/We Got Game/Teach Me to Forget/Your True Name is an insane run of singles, and some of the album tracks (Can't Be Guilty, specifically) are even better.

geoffreyess, Sunday, 14 January 2018 16:50 (six years ago) link

imperial phase runs longer imo

what I love about The Radio Dept is that even with all the muffled, lo-fi production and political lyrics, their music always seems so melodically direct, it feels so instinctive that even listening to "Your True Name" for the first time just seems to fall into a kind of logic, like this song has always existed and they just managed to capture it floating in the air, the way the chords - like many of their songs - capture this peaceful melancholy.

boxedjoy, Monday, 15 January 2018 11:43 (six years ago) link

they're probably the most consistent band of the last two decades

ufo, Monday, 15 January 2018 11:59 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Your true name reminds me of that new improved hypocrisy song they did. Otm above about consistency and that EP version of teach me to forget rules

tinnitus the night (Ross), Saturday, 24 March 2018 19:19 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rz3DWHlBSU

everything this band does is gold

ufo, Friday, 31 August 2018 05:01 (five years ago) link

hell yeah

yes, said (Ross), Friday, 31 August 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

everything this band does is gold

― ufo, Friday, August 31, 2018 1:01 AM (three months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Including this gem of a session

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB8R2lFfo84

Van Horn Street, Sunday, 2 December 2018 01:46 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

New single, apparently they’ll release one a month and compile them into an album

https://youtu.be/7wQYGTmjJyg

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link

Love this. They don't really know how to write bad songs do they.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link

that's really gorgeous, i love this band

ufo, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 23:45 (four years ago) link

the best band of all time

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 23:47 (four years ago) link

that harp is really chrono trigger

ufo, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 23:47 (four years ago) link

a beautiful tune

nxd, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 23:53 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzFzSaObvvc

not quite as transcendent as the last one but i still love it

ufo, Friday, 20 March 2020 15:28 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFCoQRxclZs

this band can do no wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a38AvNvoqLI

ufo, Friday, 3 July 2020 22:26 (three years ago) link

at this point it's a case of wondering whether I will love or really love each new single they put out, what a faultless run they're on

boxedjoy, Saturday, 4 July 2020 11:55 (three years ago) link

Feel like a lot of the new singles this year are throwbacks to the sound of their first album - which makes me really happy!

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 4 July 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

revisiting "Occupied" today

We all wish there was a hell for some people
Some kind of retribution
You want him freed from his arms and legs, cash
And crown and frown
But as you know that's not the way it goes
When was it ever? No
'Cause wicked people thrive
While the likes of you go down
Down, down, down
Down, down, down

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link

Simon, were you going to go see them at the Mod Club last year? I had a ticket, still bummed :(

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link

I was not! But if they ever come back I will definitely make an attempt.

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link

Aren’t we supposed to have a new album around now? Did COVID derail their 2020 plans?

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:35 (three years ago) link

I would be happy with them just continuing to release an amazing single every few months

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

they were aiming to have released enough singles last year to compile on an album by the end of the year, yeah, but i would assume covid derailed that

the few they did put out were fantastic though so hopefully we get more before too long

ufo, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link

I'm smashing that LP preorder if/when that happens.

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

(relatedly: I wish the 2xLP of Passive Aggressive was affordable anywhere)

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I recently discovered the EP compilation, "I Don't Need Love, I've Got My Band". I guess this slots in before "Pet Grief" on their timeline. Great stuff with great sound.

o. nate, Thursday, 4 February 2021 21:33 (three years ago) link

yeah I was curious about that one

Evan, Thursday, 4 February 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link

I think I like it better than "Pet Grief" actually. Probably my second favorite of their releases after "Clinging to a Scheme".

o. nate, Thursday, 4 February 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link

This comp? OK noted! How about vs. Passive Aggressive Singles comp?

You can tell this is a cult band when you look at the vinyl prices on discogs by the way...

Evan, Thursday, 4 February 2021 21:44 (three years ago) link

I haven't heard that one, so can't compare.

o. nate, Thursday, 4 February 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link

I Don't Need Love... is a combo of two EPS, "Pulling Our Weight" and "This Past Week". Some of those songs but not all were on the Passive Aggressive comp.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 4 February 2021 23:16 (three years ago) link

two years pass...

"There will be a new album and a reissue of Clinging soon enough" - https://www.instagram.com/p/CrT0VIwsPus/c/18212993155230836/r/18088537165334192/?hl=en

blue6ave, Tuesday, 2 May 2023 04:46 (eleven months ago) link


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