TS: Wire vs. Magazine

I've been a big Wire fan for a while, but it was only recently that a friend bought me Magazine's first two albums for my birthday. I guess Wire have to win because of a much larger output of quality stuff, but I'd be interested to hear the views of someone who reckons Magazine is better. I'm sure there must be some of those on ILM.

wire:
high number of high quality small pieces. musically, unique attitude conveyed via consistent patent dissonance, so again "new" use of guitars, lyrically wider, not just rotten, if glib more PR firm cunning, more cohesive "whole band" projection (fly in oitment as deliberate long song rock out = very annoying, good at 45rpm)

both used invitation punk provided to do their own unique musical thing and branched out lyrically, not overdoing attitude for its own sake, both saw songs as seperate unique entities, both used albums well in the time of punk singles, both stopped when they knew it was time
(am ignoring mid-wire and recent send/burn and buzzkunstz)

yeah, leave them alone, they both rocked in every sense, pushed, artful, both punk++ to me

i have to admire both and still enjoy the albums from that time 25 years ago

and they both rocked

wanna bring in the Stranglers ? that comparison would be extra awkward. They stood out, snotty, obnoxious, but they rocked too.

Stranglers >>>>>>>>>>> Wire>>>Magazine.

sasha, i assume you _have_ heard (3rd album) "correct use of soap" (faultless cf: 1 & 2) or "play"(live, they rock) or "magic, murder and the weather"(a real head-scratcher)

I have a weird bootleg I got some years back with Wire live on one side and Magazine live on the other.

Anyway...
Stranglers? are youse Nuts?

Wire > Magazine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Police>Stranglers

Oh no! it was a festival!
Oh OK! they were the last band.

see, i adore the "beat-combo" period ... heh, maybe i should revive Wire in the 80s - Classic Or Dud?

or seen them live recently?

"Wire > Magazine >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Police>Stranglers"

No no no no no no!

Magazine > Wire >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stranglers >>>>>> Police!

Hey man, I didn't bring'em into this. I was happy to leave it Wire vs. Magazine. I love both of'em, but I'd always choose Wire (simply better songs). But once the Stranglers are invoked, there's no hope for either. I LOVE THE STRANGLERS!

Is that really that hard to fathom?

Oh, but Killing Joke Uber Alles, of course.

er, hang on ...

Wire>>Stranglers>>>Magazine>>>>>>>>>Wire Magazine>Police.

I did enjoy that recent Wire Live In Germany DVD. Did anyone else?

yeah i mentioned it upthread.

i'm new to this shambolic and addicting website. it's refreshing to have such a wide range of thought and insightful taste buds, as i have been relying on web magazines for a long time. (pfork and dusted, mostly. i am a huge fan of Saidthegramophone.)

being OCD and unable to make intuitive, preferential decisions, i have devised a system of random music selection to give me surprises...... i bring up a group of lists (i love lists) and use a random number generator to select an album from the list. my favorite one to do this with is The Wire's "Rewind"-- i'd be interested in reading the magazine regularly but the price for a US subscription is ridiculous. anyway, i like the divisions between the main top 50 and avant-rock/dub/beats/global/jazz/composition/etc. i know this is strange and sort of a cheap way to avoid proclaiming individualized opinions on things, but i am more interested in learning and understanding diverse sounds than i am in determining what i like and dislike........

anyway (again), since this site seems to be populated by a lot of knowledgeable and opinionated people (reminding me, at times, of walking encyclopedias), i was interested in hearing what you all have to say about The Wire magazine, its year-end lists, its strengths and weaknesses.......... or some other resources i can use with a similar approach to music discussion-- actually less about discussion (of things i am very badly informed about) than about helping me discover new/innovative/"important"/bizarre music.

as of now, the music i personally identify with most are of the sensitive-indie-generally-sad-but-hopeful variety (i will honestly say that Carissa's Wierd saved my high school existence)--- typically mainstream-media-friendly artists like Sigur Ros, Mountain Goats, Beirut, Francois Virot, Elliott Smith, Bon Iver, Neutral Milk Hotel, and (yes, i am an indoctrinated PFM slave from the Pacific NW) Fleet Foxes............ but i know that this is quite a narrow selection to devote my passionate side to. i would really like to get into more forward-thinking stuff, as well as some other, less-hyped artists like the ones i've mentioned (the latter of which would be greatly appreciated).

tmi tmi tmi i am sorry i just can't stop blabbing!!!!! anyway thank you all.

http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/MD/What_the_Fuck.mp3

^^^^^
meant as a new Question, sorry oops.

which is the wire and which is the sopranos?

fuck!! blast this similar-thread function, although it may be a good idea! arrgh!

looooool

hello new guy. meet the last new guy who made an incredible introduction ^^^

As for this contention, having heard 154 I would have given it to Wire in a walk, but then I heard The Correct Use Of Soap, which put everything right back into the melting-pot again. Reckon that's probably Magazine's best album.

naw i dont agree.

It's just got so much punch, barely a second wasted. It may seem slighter than the other albums but I think it's the most insistent.

magazine overall better, because wire can be a bore at times
but some wire songs just beat everything magazine did. map reference for starters.