Suggest music for an overnight train trip through Egypt

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I'm going to Egypt for ten days, from Monday. (Luxor and Cairo, since you ask.) We're taking a sleeper car on an overnight train, which I've never done before. What music would sound good gliding through the desert by night? (I'm hoping absolutely anything would sound good with that scenery, but I guess I mean 'appropriate')

There's the lyrically apposite, like:
Midnight At The Oasis
and
Night Boat To Cairo
and
Mesopotamia

But what I had in mind was stuff that would sound right. Natacha Atlas springs to mind.

davidsim (davidsim), Saturday, 29 January 2005 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Rockist Scientist to thread immediately!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 29 January 2005 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)

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RJG (RJG), Saturday, 29 January 2005 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

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Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 January 2005 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

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The Egyptian Lover - "On the Nile"

phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 29 January 2005 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I know people will think it's cheese, but I'd probably listen to 'Kashmir.'

57 7th (calstars), Saturday, 29 January 2005 04:31 (twenty-one years ago)

alice coltrane "ptah the daoud" and sleep "dopesmoker".

Fat Eyes, Saturday, 29 January 2005 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, Chris DeBurgh, Spanish Train on repeat.

but seriously
I'd suggest Cocteau Twins, who are always good for travel.

derrick (derrick), Saturday, 29 January 2005 05:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Sussan Deyhim & Richard Horowitz Desert Equations: Azax Attra
The Devil's Anvil Hard Rock from the Middle East
Sabina Yannatou & Nikos Touniatos Masko (Greek, yeah. but their percussion/voice improv feels ancient and just right)
Melechesh Sphynx

echoinggrove (echoinggrove), Saturday, 29 January 2005 05:19 (twenty-one years ago)

the blue nile

RJG (RJG), Saturday, 29 January 2005 05:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Pharoe Sanders
Pharoe Monch

Seuss, Saturday, 29 January 2005 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

this answer will probably sound totally retarded but i'd listen to bobby konders' "a lost era in nyc". it's really slow, sparse, almost mournful early house music shot through with lots of vaguely eastern-sounding melodies and a heavy dub reggae influence. i don't know why, i guess it would fit with my vision of egypt as a lush, moonlit, dreamy place. i'd probably also listen to lots of dub and roots reggae.

maybe this would be a better answer for "overnight train trip through ethiopia".

vahid (vahid), Saturday, 29 January 2005 06:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i am totally down with the pharoah sanders / alice coltrane suggestions too.

vahid (vahid), Saturday, 29 January 2005 06:02 (twenty-one years ago)

dude just listen to the train, the desert at night should be soundtrack enough!

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Saturday, 29 January 2005 06:06 (twenty-one years ago)

dude just listen to the train, the desert at night should be soundtrack enough!

OTM, actually. You'll be traveling in a truly mystical place. Who needs to augment it?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 January 2005 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

whatever you do, don't listen to Hot Hot Heat's "Cairo"

lemin (lemin), Saturday, 29 January 2005 06:18 (twenty-one years ago)

...regardless of wherever you're traveling. Or even if staying at home.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 29 January 2005 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)

coil - astral disaster

f-a-b-o-l-o-u-s (adamwest), Saturday, 29 January 2005 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)

terry hall & mushtaq - the hour of two lights

sibsi (sibsi), Saturday, 29 January 2005 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

the jones girls -- "nights in egypt"

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Saturday, 29 January 2005 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

no, wait it's "nights OVER egypt."

lovebug starski (lovebug starski), Saturday, 29 January 2005 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost davidsim-- Don't let them serve you dinner. They'll charge you for it before you pull into cairo and it's a fucking ripoff.

Police -- Tea in the Sahara

I'd probably listen to Tindersticks _Waiting for the Moon_ though, which is my favorite night-travelling album these days.

mikef (mfleming), Saturday, 29 January 2005 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

The Cure - "Fire in Cairo"
Capt. Beefheart - "Sue Egypt"

o. nate (onate), Saturday, 29 January 2005 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

basic channel?

whenever i travel i always bring tried and true favorites and then a random assortment of stuff that i barely know.

it's tricky (disco stu), Saturday, 29 January 2005 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know anymore. Does it really make sense to recommend a bunch of Egyptian music I like in a case like this? Maybe authenticity isn't really what's required? I've never been anywhere, so I don't know what would actually go well with the trip you are taking.

I hate to keep asking this, like I'm suddenly Mr. D***l***, but can you get onto ILX's d1r3ct c0nnnn3ct h*b? I could get some things to you quickly that way.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 30 January 2005 01:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't imagine anything more appropriate than Qur'anic recitation, if you can handle its religious significane. Otherwise, yeah, some classic Oum Kalthoum is obvious, but maybe not something you'd really want to hear. And if you want the sound of contempoary Egypt, then you'd have to thrown in something like Amro Diab or Diana Hadad (if she's Egyptian). I don't even have any of that in digital form myself.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 30 January 2005 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

But here are some recommendations anyway (why should I not recommend Egyptian music I like given the other things recommended here--"Sue Egypt"!):

Oum Kalthoum: "Oulida Elhouda"
"Ghaneli Showaia Showaia"
"Roubaieyat El Khayam"
"Baid Anak" (first twenty minutes or so--after that it gets kind of tedious)
Either "Men Agle Aynaika" or "We Marret el Ayam"

Asmahan: "'aleek Salat Allah"
"Yalli Hawak"

Farid el Atrache: "Wehyat Eineri"
"Laktob Aawerak el Chagar"
"Fog Ghosnek Ya Lemona"
"Ich Enta" (Live)
"Enaya Btedhak"

Riad el Sounbatti:
taksim oud (oud solo) from "Ashwaq"

Any Qur'anic recitation by Sheikh Abdul Baset Abdul Samad

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 30 January 2005 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Also: Sheikh Ahmed Barrayn: Sufi Songs.

I'm not entirely sold on his singing (a bit nasal even for my taste), but the musicians accompanying him are really solid and there are a lot of rhythms and melodies that come in and out here that are very familiar to me--possibly really primal Upper Egyptian standards. (It says Sufi Songs, but I think some of the music is of secular origins. I've heard a lot of the melodies in secular contexts, but that doesn't mean the secular singers weren't alluding to religious song, but anyway, I think it's just pretty folkloric stuff.)

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 30 January 2005 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"Roubaieyat El Khayam"

This is still my favorite starting point for Oum Kalthoum.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 30 January 2005 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

A lot of music by Amon Tobin makes me envision a journey across the desert. Many tracks seem like they belong in the soundtrack for something and have a slight mid-east feel to them. I would recommend Bricolage or Out From Out Where.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Sunday, 30 January 2005 16:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for all the suggestions, many of which I've taken on board (or will do when I get on the train, hur hur). Particular thanks to RS £aRue. Sadly, I have no idea how to "get onto ILX's d1r3ct c0nnnn3ct h*b". This is because (a) I'm on a Mac and (b) I'm ignorant.

If anyone knows how to resolve (a) - without switching to a PC - please let me know.

And if anyone knows how to reolve (b), please keep it to themselves.

davidsim (davidsim), Sunday, 30 January 2005 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned would know.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 30 January 2005 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

This might help: ILX Direct Connect Hub

There's some discussion of Mac there.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 30 January 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Check out this old thread too, even though it wasn't limited to Egypt: The Crossing of the Sahara Mix

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 30 January 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The Bloodless Pharaohs (w/Brian Setzer)

mnm, Sunday, 30 January 2005 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, I would say listen to the train/desert or to RS' suggestions. but here's my answer in the spirit of the thread

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gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 30 January 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I would recommend listening to the train too, maybe over my suggestions. (Would it be possible to just listen to Egyptian radio while on the train?)

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 30 January 2005 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

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john'n'chicago, Sunday, 30 January 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"East of the River Nile" A. Pablo

Venus Glow (1411), Monday, 31 January 2005 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned would know.

I would, but the thread you've linked to I think has all necessary info. And David's a good egg when it comes to fi1e-sh4ring as we both well know. Hi there!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 31 January 2005 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

aphex twin - weathered stone

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 31 January 2005 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"Killing An Arab" would be tacky, I suppose

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Monday, 31 January 2005 01:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm perhaps a little something by Thievery Corporation (sips chai)

DCHipster (Gear!), Monday, 31 January 2005 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, the Jon Hassel/Brian Eno album, where Hassel's trumpet tends to remind me of a train whistle.

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Monday, 31 January 2005 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Something like this:

Asmahan: "'aleek Salat Allah"
Oum Kalthoum: "Oulida Elhouda"
Farid el Atrache: "Wehyat Eineri"
Riad el Sounbatti: taksim oud from "Ashwaq"
Sheikh Abdul Baset Abdul Samad: [a short Surat]
Oum Kalthoum: "Roubaieyat El Khayam"

RS, Monday, 31 January 2005 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

CREEPING DEATH

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

NILE - BLACK SEEDS OF VENGEANCE

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Clearly:

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mcd (mcd), Monday, 31 January 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING AT ALL

I did the sleeper train down the length of Egypt thing and I got the WORST night's sleep of my life. There were tellys, like in aircraft, showing a shonky quality (oof) video of the McHale's Navy film (oof oof oof) with the sound on loud and uncontrollable. oof AGANE

the trip was grebt cubed otherwise, so have a smashing time. Karnak (in Luxor) is the bizzle.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Monday, 31 January 2005 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Miles Davis - Pangaea

earlnash, Monday, 31 January 2005 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

My choices (Pharoah Sanders, Om Kalthoum) have already been mentioned & seconded, so I have nothing to add aside from "Enjoy yourself, you lucky bastard!"

I don't suppose Pink Floyd's "Nile Song" or Michael Penn's "Like Egypt Was" would be at all appropriate, aside from title-wise.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 31 January 2005 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

No one has mentioned The Bangles' "Walk Like An Egyptian"?

Seriously, it's not Egyptian per se (or not solely Egyptian), but my favorite North African music is the Khaled/Taha/Faudel "1, 2, 3 soleils", which is basically a mixture of pop-rai and Taha's chaabi rock. Make certain to look for the double album, not the U.S. single disk version. Otherwise, as always, I recommend all of Rachid Taha's recent (last 10 years) work. Again, not exactly Egyptian, but really an attempt to be pan-Arabic (including Europe), and it's very accessible.

I'm also liking Souad Massi's folky stuff. Christgau really loves Hakim, which IS Egyptian, but it is party music and not really crossing-the-desert-by-night music.

But really, what you ought to do is take along an old Walkman (I think casettes are still the medium of choice there) and buy whatever tapes people are listening to.

Vornado (Vornado), Monday, 31 January 2005 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

CREEPING DEATH

Ahahahahahahaha. OTM!

Actually, if it's an overnight train, I'd keep your Walkman or iPod or whatever locked away, as couchette compartments are often robbed in the night, regardless of whether you're in them at the time or not. Travel safely.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 January 2005 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

"CREEPING DEATH
Ahahahahahahaha. OTM!"

You could also add Iron Maiden's "Powerslave" and Ronnie James Dio's "Egypt (The Chains Are On)" to the same mix tape.

Or if you want to go another way, you have a couple of options with bands named Isis or listen to the Osiris himself O.D.B.

earlnash, Monday, 31 January 2005 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Shalabi Effect - Pink Abyss

blawa (blawa), Monday, 31 January 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

'You could also add Iron Maiden's "Powerslave" and Ronnie James Dio's "Egypt (The Chains Are On)" to the same mix tape'

aw fuck I forgot Powerslave! OTM

latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 31 January 2005 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd take as many albums by The Necks as I could get my hands on.

Sasha (sgh), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

davidsim, check your e-mail. (I hope that g-mail was a real account. If not, send me an e-mail.)

RS £aRue (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:57 (twenty-one years ago)

dude just listen to the train, the desert at night should be soundtrack enough!

even better, make field recordings.

hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)

dude just listen to the train, the desert at night should be soundtrack enough!

We did. And looked at the stars. Awesome.

davidsim (davidsim), Friday, 11 February 2005 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

six years pass...

Veteran pop star Mohamed Mounir has created a very stirring music video cut with images from the street protests. In a side note, Egyptian state television encouraged musicians to go to Liberation Square and tell the protestors to chill. Young pop star Tamer Hosny fell for it and got loudly booed from the stage when he trotted out the company line. Bad move.

From afropop worldwide

curmudgeon, Saturday, 12 February 2011 04:57 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9TOi3EwRQw&feature=player_embedded

curmudgeon, Saturday, 12 February 2011 05:09 (fifteen years ago)

five months pass...

http://blog.afropop.org/2011/07/first-night-in-egypt-with-mohamed.html

The Afropop worldwide folks are in Egypt blogging and recording

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:29 (fourteen years ago)

Mounir had to organize his own security for the event, and given Mounir's massive popularity and the relatively few concerts he has been able to perform in Egypt this year, some 20,000 eager fans mobbed a zone already jammed with summer vacationers. For them, getting into the outdoor concert space was nothing short of traumatic.

We arrived stage-side just before midnight, and the show didn't start until after 1AM. Mounir had mixed feelings about performing during the ongoing revolution, which he wholeheartedly supports. Mounir has maintained a complex relationship with Egypt's government over the years. From the start of his career in the mid-70s, he raised eyebrows by performing in casual attire, singing about secular subjects, including social and political ones that led to the banning of some of his songs. He also won a large and loyal following for his brilliant voice, excellent songs, penetrating lyrics and overall showmanship--he's had a successful acting career as well during those years.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 July 2011 03:36 (fourteen years ago)

six months pass...

Nino Rota - nile journey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT4Pn8eoaMs

meisenfek, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:32 (fourteen years ago)

ten years pass...

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Trans-Egypt Express

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 15:30 (three years ago)

https://soundcloud.com/future-nuggets/sets/raze-de-soare-albatros

Evan, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 15:32 (three years ago)

Miley Osiris

calzino, Wednesday, 26 October 2022 15:47 (three years ago)

har

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 15:47 (three years ago)

This is the egyptian kraftwerk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Lover

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 26 October 2022 16:05 (three years ago)


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