can anyone recommend early acid techno/ trance circa 92-95

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i'm looking for early acid techno stuff, 4/4 more so than breaks, the sort of stuff that evolved (?) into trance. i don't really know where to start, so anything, artists, labels, comps, etc would be helpful. thanks.

deru, Monday, 31 January 2005 02:04 (twenty-one years ago)

rising high

rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

There are a bunch of acid house threads if you do a search for 'em.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

good starting points (not so early) for non-trance fans:

populist choice: get this cj bolland mix or this carl cox mix

connoiseurial choice (with downloads!): irdial records

damon wild is a consistent thread in this sort of stuff, though i favor the sound that fed more into acid techno than into trance.

obv gareth to thread ... in fact if you look for threads he started i am pretty sure he's started at least 2 or 3 threads on this very subject.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

more solidly trance while still palatable to my techno sensibilities. my relatively uninformed opinion is that the cygnus x track "superstring" was the birth of trance as we know it. also we may want to call siegbran to thread, too (or search his postings on eurotechno).

vahid (vahid), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

alternate starting point: you could search out all the comps on which "age of love" (watch out for stella mix by jam + spoon) appears.

but seriously ... fuck jam+spoon.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

actually i'm searching other threads right now. guess i should've done that first, huh? damon wild stuff is exactly the sort of thing i'm thinking of, also liberator stuff. i'll check out the mixes . thanks.
what are some examples of what fed into acid techno and what turned into trance ?(this is how i understand it happening...)

deru, Monday, 31 January 2005 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

great! you answered my question before i asked it!

deru, Monday, 31 January 2005 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

My buddy just did this mix recently. It covers the pre-trance period pretty well:

http://www.austerproductions.com/steve/Steve_Eagle_-_When_Trance_Was_Good_pt_3.mp3

tracklist:
01. Cosmic Baby - Stellar Supreme [MFS 7033-2]
02. Futurhythm - Transmanic [MFS 7017-0]
03. Cygnus X - Hypermetrical [Eye Q 0630 12614-2]
04. L.S.G. - My Time Is Yours (Club Mix) [Superstition 2050-2]
05. Der Dritte Raum - Alienoid [Harthouse HHCD 017]
06. Microglobe - Afreuropamericasiaustralia [MFS 7055-2]
07. Virtual Symmetry - The V.S. (Fable Mix) [Eye Q 017 CD]
08. Union Jack - Yeti [Platipus plat 36 cd]
09. Spicelab - Blue Manna [Global Ambition GAMB 038-6]
10. Cygnus X - Superstring [Eye Q 0630 12614-2]
11. Resistance D - Throm 3 [Harthouse HHSP 005 CD]
12. Dave Angel - Planet Function [R&S RS 91 024]
13. Sven Väth - Rainforest Is Calling [Positiva CDTIVA-1011]
14. The Essence of Nature - Blue Lotus [Harthouse HH 038]
15. Microglobe - Stars (What Is Space?) (Lt. Uhura Mix) [EMI Electrola 7243 8 27857 2 9]
16. Energy 52 - Cafe Del Mar (Cosmic Baby's Impression) [Eye Q 001]
17. Cosmic Baby - Träume [Time Out Of Mind T.O.O.M.002/CD]

tylero (tylero), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

also let's not forget a lot of these people (especially the ones who were hardcore super-underground and obscure in 92-95) didn't influence techno and trance so much as ended up doing mimimal techno and microhouse (see: patrick pulsinger, mike ink, etc)

vahid (vahid), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:29 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost: that's your list of labels right there (good work, tyler! ps - will you start a clubnight called hardcoresuperunderground??? i swear i will show up to this one)

vahid (vahid), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone know anything about an Acid House comp called Disco Biscuits? It's at my local shop for $15 (two CD's) and I always put it back when I think about buying it.

The only place I can find anything about it is allmusic, which gives it a pretty good review but I'd like to know a little more.

stephen morris (stephen morris), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

March 5th biotch. mark yer calender.

tylero (tylero), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

thats a pretty weird collection stephen...and why is papua new g credited to brian wosname?

bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

also its not acid house

bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

itchee and scratchee

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

hooray!

bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

do you like itchee or scratchee best jim?

bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

which one wore specs?

the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sure Strings of Life is the Derrick Mays track anyway... it's weird tho, because I've read the liners and all they talk about is how great acid house was. Admittedly, I don't know a lot on there, but the few tracks I do know didn't seem like what my idea was of Acid House.

So steer clear?

stephen morris (stephen morris), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:52 (twenty-one years ago)

well, theres some nice canonical stuff on there...but, ah, yes.

bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 31 January 2005 02:58 (twenty-one years ago)

that compilation is similar to but slightly shoddier than: classic rave 1+2 (moonshine), the best rave anthems ... ever! (virgin uk), back to the old skool (ministry), rave nation! (inspired), id&t classics (id&t) etc etc ... but really these are just rave compilations and not really illuminating as far as sketching out the evolution of trance. much more eye-opening to the connections between late 80s house ---> hardcore and seeing how both snuck into the pop charts.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 31 January 2005 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

also tyler's post reminded me that laurent garnier is playing in LA in early march ... and that in turn reminded me of this minor classic. this one and the dave angel x-mix seem to describe the future that didn't happen, some sort of parallel world where deep detroit techno and trance seamlessly merged.

vahid (vahid), Monday, 31 January 2005 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

>also tyler's post reminded me that laurent garnier is playing in LA in early march

Cancelled :( He got annoyed at the new visa application process and ditched the US part of his tour. He did this last year (2003?) too. Oh well.

tylero (tylero), Monday, 31 January 2005 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

why no love for LFO?

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 31 January 2005 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

On the nu-NRG end of the scale, I'd recommend Reactivate 9 (1994) and Reactivate 10 (1995 - particularly the mixed version. Going more techno, there's also Carl Cox's F.A.C.T. Vol 1.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Monday, 31 January 2005 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Rising High? Shoddy nonsense. One Black Dog ep doesn't make a label. In general it's a good idea to steer clear of English Acid. How about trying the FNAC label from around this time, starting with Acid Eiffel by Choice.

Nothing but love and respect for LFO.

wtin, Monday, 31 January 2005 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i agree, rising high werent good, other than licensing harthouse for the uk market

charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 31 January 2005 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

No one shall diss LFO here, I won't allow it.

The last time I even tried to follow anything close to this kind of music was '92-'95. I've been out of touch for 10 years, I guess. Although I did like the first Basement Jaxx album and Layo & Bushwacka's "Night Works" about two years ago.

Regardless, the best and most unknown record from this period hands down was the first 12" by Sub Sub called the "Coast" EP, 1992 on Rob Gretton's label (New Order's manager) Rob's Records. Nothing Sub Sub ever did even began to touch it's brilliance. To think I had an ample chance to steal it once, and refused to out of sheer honesty! I feel pretty sure I'll never live to find it in the black vinyl flesh again. Anyway, then they went on to become The Doves. Who are all right, you know, but it never really was the same.

Black Dog had their moments, too. I still have "Cost II" and love it. I remember many names from this period: Tresor, Eon, Harthouse records, Joey Beltram, Sven Vath, etc. But my favourites were Orbital, Ultramarine and Aphex Twin. Aphex became a lot less interesting as time went on, though. I guess they all did to some degree.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 31 January 2005 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

For early 90's stuf I was a bit of a Warp label groupie to be honest, Tuff Little Unit did it for me back then as did The Scientist, N.O.W, lfo, 808 state, FSOL, orbital.

ooh now I want to go listen to some Dave Angel vibes.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Union Jack - Two Full Moons & A Trout / Cactus
Hardfloor - Acperience 5

The Horse of Babylon (the pirate king), Monday, 31 January 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

agree, rising high werent good, other than licensing harthouse for the uk market

Admittedly, I always thought their reputation exceeded the quality of their output, but The Hypnotist, Air Liquide, and mf'ing CHURCH OF EXTACY more than justify the label's mention on this thread.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 31 January 2005 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

That there Eye Q comp is grand.

React released a triple CD comp which is one disc Belgian techno, one disc early trance (almost qualifying for the name "hard trance" but earlier than that actual scene) and one disc nu-nrg. I should listen to it more, esp as I don't have any other nu-nrg and it's got this weirdly hypnotic propulsive sheen to it.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 31 January 2005 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

but The Hypnotist, Air Liquide, and mf'ing CHURCH OF EXTACY more than justify the label's mention on this thread.

plus Plug, A Homeboy, A Hippie & A Funki Dredd, Rising High Collective, Caspar Pound, Steve Bug, etc

IMHO Rising High was aeons better than pretty much any other "trance" label around at the time. Platipus was too often cheesily trying to be psy-trance, and MFS and Superstition too often had no quality control - putting out all kinds of pisspoor Dutch and Italian trance-lite stuff. I know German labels and artists are really popular now, but the fact that trance went all "pretty" and CRAP is largely attributable to the German trance influence of labels like MFS and producers like PVD, Sakin, etc.

Also, I will second the React "Reactivate" series, and also recommend the Bitter and Twisted mix by Mrs Wood and Blu Peter. It was one of my favorites back in the day for Nu-NRG/Trance-techno x-over stuff.

rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 31 January 2005 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

but rentboy, trance-lite is what we're trying to redeem here!

i love the cartoon sea-animal covers on those reactivate comps. they remind me of dj clever's "troubled waters" cd, except cuter and prettier and better colors. so #10 is the place to start?? what other vols are good??

I should listen to it more, esp as I don't have any other nu-nrg

you should listen to it because it's got dj misjah & dj tim - "access"

vahid (vahid), Monday, 31 January 2005 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i will say that I still have a fond spot in my heart for Hook - those x-cabs singles still sound terrific, in very much the same way that "Access" does

rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 31 January 2005 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Reactivate #10 is THE one for me... but then, it's very specific to a certain place and time, which makes it hard to be objective.

For my money, the greatest hard trance compilation of all time is Senza Volto - An Eve Collection (1997), which is basically a collection of Pablo Gargano's output on the Eve label. It took the genre to artistic heights which I never heard equalled again, as formulaic lowest-common-denominator Eye-beef-a fodder started to suck the life out of the music from 1998 onwards.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Aside from what's already been mentioned, there were some great, key labels that really pushed that sound from that era that Deru's after:

Labworks
Over Drive
Analogue
R&S
Music Man
Juice, Australia (plug)
Force Inc
Plus 8/Probe
DJAX Upbeats
Experimental

The main ringleaders included Thomas Heckman, Woody McBride, Uwe Schmidt (Atom Heart) and Cem Oral (Ultrahigh), but locally DJ HMC had it going on.

Stephen Stockwell (Stephen Stockwell), Friday, 11 February 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

You forgot Low Spirit

TOMBOT, Friday, 11 February 2005 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd recommend Oliver Lieb or any of his aliases: Spicelab, LSG, Paragliders, etc. He's extremely prolific and has some quality control issues but LSG:Collected Works or Spicelab: Spy vs. Spice would be good starting points. The LSG releases are more straightforward and melodic while the Spicelab ones are meandering and weird at times.

Missile: Greatest Launches CD is full of sicko acid tracks like "To the Sky", "Ego Acid" and "Horn Track". If you like things like Misjah and Tim you'll be well into this.

And despite the comments above, I don't think you can go wrong with any of the Rising High compilations. The Secret Life of Trance series was one of my favorites way back when.


jeffery (jeffery), Friday, 11 February 2005 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't remember much acid/trance or techno/trance crossover, as such, appearing on Low Spirit from 92-93. That label's entire output for that era was steered pretty well toward big-arsed stadium rave-trance stompers from folks like Westbam and Hardsequencer. And I don't think Oliver Lieb really fits in here for similar reasons. His sound was more a benchmark for straight-out pre-Gatecrasher trance, unless you're talking about the earliest Spicelab releases, like the Quicksand EP.

But definitely, Rising High had some brilliant output during said period. Rising High was just a great label, period. Never got into The Secret Life of Trance, though.

Stephen Stockwell (Stephen Stockwell), Friday, 11 February 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

...Too much filler.

Stephen Stockwell (Stephen Stockwell), Friday, 11 February 2005 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

My own x-post: 92-95 goddamit! Jeez.

Stephen Stockwell (Stephen Stockwell), Friday, 11 February 2005 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe you guys got this far without mentioning the Made In Frankfurt label, probably the embodiment of German acid trance. Major North "Annihilate" is THE acid trance track.

Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 11 February 2005 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be because I've never heard of it until this very day. See? Another slap in the face to the idea that even the most ardent of followers can ever possibly have anything close to 'total' knowledge of a genre. Music is bigger than the lot ov'uz. Thanks, Siegbran.

Stephen Stockwell (Stephen Stockwell), Friday, 11 February 2005 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

Got in the mail the first 4 volumes of the Gaia Tonträger compilations (1+2 and 3+4).

There's a great selection under the crudely pixellated cover art. Industrial, acid and spacey, bridging early minimal German trance and full-blown goa: E-Rection, Jungle High, S.M.I.L.E., Evolution, Aqua Regia, X-Dream... a mighty fine discovery!

no-nonsense, Monday, 10 September 2007 10:53 (eighteen years ago)


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