Headphone/iPod Etiquette

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So, I'm grocery shopping yesterday, and I spy a family down in the cereal aisle. Mom and child are rummaging around near the Corn Flakes while Dad is wearing -- and listening to -- some iPod headphones. Now, while it's true that I have no idea about this particular family's interpersonal dynamic, I found this incredibly strange. "Gosh, honey, are we boring you? What're you trying to say?" Beyond rude, I thought.

This morning, arriving at work, I'm riding up in the elevator with a guy who is BLASTING "In Da Club" by 50 Cent out of his oversized headphones. He's also on his way to work, but he's still listening. I'm not knocking that, necessarily. I've been known to walk around the block just to hear the ending of a song, but once I'm in the building, I generally turn it off.

What about you? When do you turn your headphones off? When do you find it inappropriate/rude/impractical to wear headphones?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 January 2005 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

it think it's rude when i listen to them and try to talk on the phone at the same time. the poor person on the other end must get tired of my yelling into the receiver

rentboy (rentboy), Monday, 31 January 2005 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually have my Ipod at low volume all the time at work. I take out one earbud when somebody really wants my attention although I can hear them just fine with both earbuds on. I take them out in meetings though.

As long I don't have to repeat myself or ask people to repeat themselves I don't see a problem with any of what you mention. I find that cell phones are much worse, people are having lunch with you and answer the phone while you are talking to them.

blawa (blawa), Monday, 31 January 2005 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm. I (personally) don't wear earphones when I talk to people, ever. I think it sends the message that I don't want to talk to them. I also don't wear them when I *could* be talking to people, e.g., grocery shopping with the family.

mrjosh (mrjosh), Monday, 31 January 2005 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

On the bus I saw a young kid sitting with his mother, who was rocking wildly to her headphones and completely oblivious to what he was up to. There was something frightening about it. I think if you're going to have children you are compelled to inhabit the same acoustic space when you're in their presence.

I do listen on the elevator up sometimes, but not loudly enough to bother anyone (I hope!) I guess it is borderline rude.

Mark (MarkR), Monday, 31 January 2005 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I continue listening at my desk, and take them out when someone comes over to talk.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 31 January 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I generally turn mine off when I go inside a building, but today I was early for work and listened to a few more songs. I was alone in my office though.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Monday, 31 January 2005 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

On the bus I saw a young kid sitting with his mother, who was rocking wildly to her headphones and completely oblivious to what he was up to. There was something frightening about it. I think if you're going to have children you are compelled to inhabit the same acoustic space when you're in their presence.

OTM. I've seen mothers pushing strollers wearing iPods/Walkmans/headphones/etc. I find that disturbing. Shouldn't a sense of parental responsibility override one's need for entertainment?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 January 2005 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

it's ridiculous when you sit in the tube and can hear the song from somebody else's earphones loud and clear. if it's only a vague and indistinct hiss or crackle, it's ok, i think.

Jay-Kid (Jay-Kid), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

t's ridiculous when you sit in the tube and can hear the song from somebody else's earphones loud and clear.

I had this the other week on the bus to the hospital. I turned around thinking there was sth wrong with the bus' motor. No, it was some guy playing really loud dance music. Asshole.

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been known to walk around the block just to hear the ending of a song, but once I'm in the building, I generally turn it off.

I find this a bit strange. Generally I keep my headphones on up until I sit down at my desk.

I think that the only time you shouldn't be wearing headphones is when you're supposed to be listening to somebody else, be it in conversation, a meeting, or whatever. Anything else is is fair game in my book.

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I don't get so much annoyed by people who's headhpones I can hear clearly, I'm more worried for their hearing. Unless you're wearing a really open pair of headphones, there's no reason anybody should be able to hear it, particularly on noisy public transport.

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

One time I was waiting for a bus, near a busy (ie loud) road listening to Motorhead on my discman and a car goes past blasting hip hop SO LOUD it drowned out the buses, Motorhead, my brain....

mei (mei), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Honest question: what if the "assholes" were blasting you really loved through his headphones instead of 50 Cents or some "loud dance music"?

I usually pick the slowest, quietest albums out of my collection for the bus ride to work (I doze off anyways) and it's no-holds-barred on the ride back (the bus is emptier). I have been guilty though of playing my music too loud in the past, but I try to curb that in my wiser years.

alex in montreal, Monday, 31 January 2005 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I am very conscious of people hearing my music from my iPod. I always pull the buds out of my ears and see if I can still hear them. And when I walk by people I instinctively turn it down, even if it's already pretty low. I think I am more embarrassed about listening to Phoenix than being rude.

caspar (caspar), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Honest question: what if the "assholes" were blasting you really loved through his headphones instead of 50 Cents or some "loud dance music"?

I didn't call the guy in the elevator listening to 50 Cent an asshole. What he was listening to wasn't the point. It was the context. Why did he feel the need to still be listening? I don't care what he was listening to. Hell, he could've been listening to Killing Joke and I would've felt the same way.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I've given some thought to iPod-in-the-elevator issue: if it's someone who works on my floor I'll generally take it off to facilitate the idiotic small-talk that makes the office world go round. I don't think I could take the stress of wondering whether or not That Lady From Physician Standards and Practice thinks I'm rude or if The Social Worker Guy Who Never Wears a Tie had a really interesting comment to make about the weather. If it's someone from another floor or a patient or something I'll keep it on and hope that they can't hear the wildly not-work-safe Three Six Mafia I'm listening to.

adam (adam), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)

When I'm listening to ragga jungle I try to keep my headphones as loud as possible so that I can get some cred from other junglists.

Why did he feel the need to still be listening?

Because he's in a fucking office building on his way to work and would prefer to stay in his own pleasant little gangsta world for as long as possible before facing the reality of a day sitting at a desk.

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Andrew, it doesn't bother me that much. But when I'm playing music and I can hear the guy's music when he's sitting WAAAAY back and I'm in the very front of the bus, there's something wrong. It doesn't bother me much, but I wonder how the other people felt who didn't have headphones on.

Honest question: what if the "assholes" were blasting you really loved through his headphones instead of 50 Cents or some "loud dance music"?

Dude, I liked what he was playing, but it was just annoying. I was more concerned for the other people. I could have put the volume up, the other people not. It's called etiquette, something that guy was obv lacking.

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

(if I sound like an old bag for saying this, I don't care. i would have been annoyed if the guy was shouting, it's the same thing in my opinion.)

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not disputing the etiquitte of keeping your headphones low enough not to bother other people (even though I sometimes don't observe it myself), I'm calling Alex on his annoyance at some guy listening to his iPod in an elevator. For all he knows the guy could be on his way to sweep floors for 6 hours. Why the hell can't he keep listening to his tunes?

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh okay, sorry! Personally I usually never play music (even with one earplug) when I'm with someone, unless they ask me to.

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Without trying to steer this into ILE territory, it's a given that we each have our own physical personal space in everyday life. What about other kinds of space, such as auditory in this case? Are we entitled to not be bothered by noise pollution and to what degree (I don't mean blasting music at 4am in the morning, more like just everyday situations)? I mean, the guy blasting the music, while lacking respect to his fellow travellers, might be trying to drown out the noise of the traffic from his own perspective.

alex in montreal, Monday, 31 January 2005 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

it was some guy playing really loud dance music. Asshole.

rockist.

john'n'chicago, Monday, 31 January 2005 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Because without elevator small-talk our civilization will crumble.

mrjosh (mrjosh), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm calling Alex on his annoyance at some guy listening to his iPod in an elevator. For all he knows the guy could be on his way to sweep floors for 6 hours. Why the hell can't he keep listening to his tunes?

Cripes, I DIDN'T SAY I WAS ANNOYED BY IT. When I'm annoyed by something, I usually take great pains to describe it in violent detail. I was just curious that he didn't feel self-conscious about blasting music in a tiny space where everyone else could hear it. The job he was heading towards, moreover, has nothing to do with it. I'd have rather been at home listenin to music too.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

What he was listening to wasn't the point. It was the context

That's cool. I only asked because both posters made a point in naming the artist/genre that the offending party was listening to, but I get your point.

alex in montreal, Monday, 31 January 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I generally shut off my iPod any time I'm about to interact with someone -- like if I stop in a coffee shop or what-have-you. If I'm just browsing around a store I'll usually leave it on, though I'll acknowledge that this probably isn't the best idea.

PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

oops. sorry. i hadn't gotten to the bottom of the thread, where my joke had already been taken.

john'n'chicago, Monday, 31 January 2005 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

That's cool. I only asked because both posters made a point in naming the artist/genre that the offending party was listening to, but I get your point.

I only mentioned what it was for two reasons: narrative detail and also to emphasize the point that it was SO LOUD that I could clearly make out what song was playing.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

it also depends which kind of earphones you have. mine are the sony dj ones, and only very little noise actually escapes them. some other brands sound like standing inside a steel mill, even if you're not the one wearing the bastards.

Jay-Kid (Jay-Kid), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

my roommate has been ga-ga for this song and listens to it on repeat almost all of the time (for the last four months). she just got an ipod and... we still hear the song all the time, only now it sounds like chipmunks, is coming from her ears, and she is sitting right next to me.

rebecca s (rebecca S), Monday, 31 January 2005 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I am very conscious of people hearing my music from my iPod. I always pull the buds out of my ears and see if I can still hear them. And when I walk by people I instinctively turn it down, even if it's already pretty low. I think I am more embarrassed about listening to Phoenix than being rude.

I do this all the time, though out of a massive sense of courtesy, rather than embarrasment at listening to Phoenix, who I am proud to like! I don't think I ever keep headphones on inside a building. I'll usually take them out just when the Skytrain or bus hits my stop, and get to my destination in silence. When ever I'm stepping on a bus, I'll take one ear out as I show my pass, etc.

derrick (derrick), Monday, 31 January 2005 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

My roomate used to go around all the time talking at the top of his voice on the phone every single waking hour of the day - he's only 22 so I guess he thinks that because the technology exists and he has these headphones that hook him up to a phone that it's perfectly fine and doesn't go against any sense of decency or manners to talk at the top of your voice all the time when there happens to be OTHER PEOPLE IN THE ROOM. And he wouldn't stay in his room when he's on the phone, oh no. He has to walk around and laugh very loudly etc etc. And when he's not on the phone, he sings. I'm not talking about a bit of humming here and there like you've just got some song in your head and absent mindedly find yourself singing it. I'm talking about GIVING A CONCERT every time he's in the house and not on the phone. Don't talk to me about earplugs - I have them, and they made no difference.

But it's true things are quieter now since I mentioned to him that it all gets on my nerves.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 31 January 2005 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

it was some guy playing really loud dance music. Asshole.

rockist.

Very funny as I was playing Justus Köhncke's Doppelleben.

stevie nixed (stevie nixed), Monday, 31 January 2005 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

when I got a walkman as a kid I learned early on that you don't wear your headphones at the table with your family, so I would never think of wearing them at the grocery store with my own family. I generally take them off when I enter the building here but not always. I am paranoid about not being able to hear important things so unless I'm on the train I often feel weird wearing them.

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 31 January 2005 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I keep mine on a lot, 3 - 5 hours at work, walking to/from work, in the elevator up to the office, etc.

In fact, the other day I was listening to that Darwin mix for the first time as I got in the elevator with two other guys who I recognized as working on my floor though I don't know their names. Now, I turn the volume up high to overcome the street noise on my walk to work and I keep the Rio in my bag where it is not really convenient to reach in and fiddle with the controls, so it was going full blast and I figure anyone else in the elevator shares the music since I use open headphones, not earbuds. And what should the mix segue into as the doors close but Grover singing "The Me Song".

I kept my eyes front and tried to look hard. It wasn't easy. Grover lasted all the way up to the fifth floor. I wonder what those guys think of me.

W i l l (common_person), Monday, 31 January 2005 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Because he's in a fucking office building on his way to work and would prefer to stay in his own pleasant little gangsta world for as long as possible before facing the reality of a day sitting at a desk.

OTM OTM OTM

until you sit down at your desk, you're not officially at work yet.

Nimrod Kovacs (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 31 January 2005 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

until you sit down at your desk, you're not officially at work yet.

Sub-question: When do you take your sunglasses off after entering your office building?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 31 January 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't wear sunglasses.

Nimrod Kovacs (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 31 January 2005 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

My wife and I are both writer/editor types. She has her iPod with her at all times, and listens to it all day while working, reading, computing, bla bla y bla.

I cannot simultaneously have music on while working or reading. About the only thing I can do while also listening to music is drive.

The Mad Puffin, Monday, 31 January 2005 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

This headphones in the elevator thing happens to me all the time before work. Its like, lady, the reason why Im listening to headphones in the elevator is because I dont want to talk to you. Leave me alone.

Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Monday, 31 January 2005 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

When do you take your sunglasses off after entering your office building?

I take them off as soon as I enter a building because, you know, there's no sun indoors.

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha I love the concept of "his own pleasant little gangsta world."

I want one of those!

Mickey (modestmickey), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

"What about you? When do you turn your headphones off? When do you find it inappropriate/rude/impractical to wear headphones?"

I turn off my headphones when I hit the desk or if someone tries to talk to me (note to coworkers: stop trying to talk to me.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I put on sunglasses and an ipod when I get to the office. Coolest guy there.

Site Admistrator (deangulberry), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i see couples at coffee shop tables each with their own iPods. sometimes reading the newspaper at the same time.

its sweet when a couple share those little bud headphones.

i take my headphones off when i get off the train.

bulbs (bulbs), Monday, 31 January 2005 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i refuse to accept this thread as an 'ipod' thread, surely 'walkman' would have been far more appropriate?

chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i refuse to accept this thread as an 'ipod' thread, surely 'walkman' would have been far more appropriate?

Rockist.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha

Bimble... (Bimble...), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.pocketcalculatorshow.com/walkman/graphics/walkman-girl3-small.jpg

chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh man. That is so classic. I am speechless.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

pocketcalculators.com rules

chris andrews (fraew), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp://www.pocketcalculatorshow.com/walkman/sony/graphics/84-catalog-japan.jpg

aw

bass braille (....), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I take them off as soon as I enter a building because, you know, there's no sun indoors.

You'd be surprised how many people flaunt this rather seemingly obvious point.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's another etiquette question. Is it rude to ask people who are listening to walkmen/iPods what they're listening to? I work at a candy store and whenever someone walks up with one, I always ask.

Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:08 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread could be my life.

My headphones (attached to a portable CD player, thank you) leak like crazy, so I'm always conscious about people giving me weird looks on the bus/subway or when I'm waiting in line at a deli or something. It seems like no matter how good music is, it sounds shitty when you hear it blaring out of someone else's headphones. I can never listen to Second Edition as loud as I want to-- it sounds like some crappy techno music. If someone tries to talk to me, I'll usually pull them off pretty quickly, but it's embarassing when someone is like, "Hello? He-Lo-o!" It's also awkward when you have to say, "excuse me" or "sixth floor, please," because you end up screaming it or saying it so soft it's creepy... ah well. It's less obnoxious than talking on a cell phone.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

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yea, i always ask people what they're listening to. some people are cool, but other people treat you like a pervert. how dare you inquire what i listen to! it usually just puts me in a bad mood, though. especially when people are like, "I don't know... It's a mix." That's gotta be the worst.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

You'd be surprised how many people flaunt this rather seemingly obvious point.

I know, but I still don't see what it's got to do with wearing headphones.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's another etiquette question. Is it rude to ask people who are listening to walkmen/iPods what they're listening to? I work at a candy store and whenever someone walks up with one, I always ask.

I personally would love to be asked what I'm listening to. I've asked a few people on public trasport and stuff, but only as confirmation after I've already guessed through overhearing it.

Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll wear my sunglasses indoors sometimes when the lighting is really good, because they're prescription and it's a pain in the ass to change glasses, esp. if I'm just going in a store for a couple of items.

Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd also love to be asked about what I'm listening to. Never happened; never done it, either. Guess I should try. Except, really, where does the conversation go from there except into awkwardness, most likely. There are few things on Rio that I imagine random pedestrians or whomever have heard of, and I wish that weren't the case but it is and that's a conversation killer.

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

W i l l, you can't imagine somebody possibly listening to something that you can say something about? Not even a, "Oh, I like that band!"?

Today a guy told me "vocal house." I didn't really have anything to say about that. Thankfully, since it's just a candy store, all I had to do was hand him his fucking candy and he walked away.

Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh sure, that could happen. I was thinking more about someone saying that about what I was listening to. But I dunno, I still don't see that conversation going anywhere interesting most of the time. Or, depends on your definition of interesting and the amount of effort/time you can put into it.

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I just do it for small talk. I prefer it over, "Wow! This weather! It sure is !"

Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)

In your situation, that makes total sense. If I were working behind a counter I'd do it. Not so much walking around the street, waiting at stoplights, on the subway, or in the office elevator, which is where I encounter people with headphones. (I'd be pleasantly surprised to find someone listening to vocal house, myself.) What are the more common responses you get?

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I work very few hours there, and it's pretty uncommon for people to come up wearing headphones, so I really don't have any common responses... honestly, I can't remember any at the moment.

Mickey (modestmickey), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

On a related note, I think it is kind of rude to walk up to someone who is clearly listening to music through headphones and try to talk to the person. This happens to me on the train and out on the street. I mean, it's fine if it's an emergency, like someone's trying to find the nearest hospital, or if they want to tell me I'm in danger, but I've had people just try to strike up lame conversations. And I'll take out one of the earbuds and listen to them and answer, then put the thing back in my ear, and they'll keep talking to me!

new person, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 10:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i see couples at coffee shop tables each with their own iPods. sometimes reading the newspaper at the same time.

i've been in similar situations at coffee shops... me listening to my iPod and trying to do some music writing, him with his laptop out, working on his resume.

Nimrod Kovacs (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I know, but I still don't see what it's got to do with wearing headphones.

Well, it's another way of avoiding contact similar to wearing headphones.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i remember back in 1999 or 2000 when i had just started as a music reporter, i was sitting on the train, listening really loud to the new album from techno animal. this elderly lady got very upset and told me off as though i was some kind of child. for a second, her reaction was completely incomprehensible for me: i was all full of myself and my writing (which i was getting PAID to do, hrmpf!), and i was sitting there, making mental notes of the relationship between man and machine that pervaded the music and blah blah blah - AND THEN THIS WOMAN DARES TO TELL ME OFF??? DOESN'T SHE KNOW THAT I AM - ACTUALLY - LISTENING TO THE BRAND NEW TECHNO ANIMAL ALBUM, WHICH IS ONLY OUT AS A PROMO, AND THAT MY REVIEW WILL BE PRINTED IN A VERY IMPORTANT MAGAZINE???????

of course, moments later i realized that she had every right to be pissed off and not give a damn what that friggin noise was.

Jay-Kid (Jay-Kid), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

when i had just started as a music reporter, i was.....

A music reporter? Never heard the profession called that.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

reporter, journalist, critic, schmitic. call it whatever you like. words could not encapsule my pretentiousness at the time anyway.

Jay-Kid (Jay-Kid), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

words could not encapsule my pretentiousness at the time anyway.

It's an occupational hazard, I'm afraid.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

yes. i was a very, very, very, very important man at the time. now i am just very, very, very important.

Jay-Kid (Jay-Kid), Tuesday, 1 February 2005 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I get the feeling the rules are a bit different when applied in college campuses. I see plenty of people when walking around campus, often enough that I am not going to take out my headphones just to say hi. And if it is very brief conversation (to the extent of: How are you? Good. How about you?) then I think it is fine for me to have one headphone in. Once real conversation is inititated I take them out. And I usually turn off my iPod when I am like 30 feet from the classroom I am heading to.

And I should say that not only will I wear sunglasses indoors. But I will wear them at night. (If it is a really nice pair of sunglasses. And by nice I am not talking about the dumb slick looking ones, I'm talking GIANT 70s style glasses.) Maybe I sound less (or maybe more...) like an asshole if I include the fact that it matched my outfit because I was wearing red really flaired out pants, shoes with two inch heels, and such (I am male). I actually got angry at the guy who tried to criticize me for wearing them at night.

Laszlo Kovacs (Laszlo Kovacs), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

greetings, laszlo!

Nimrod Kovacs (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

greetings, laszlo!

Dégeulasse!

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, I just realized only like five people would understand that previous post. Please ignore.

fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.hitparade.ch/cdimg/corey_hart-sunglasses_at_night_s.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

the cramps - sunglasses after dark
the enemy - pull down the shades

chris andrews (fraew), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha. Howdy Nimrod! Where is the second part of your name from? I choose the name Laszlo Kovacs from a french film (Breathless).

Laszlo Kovacs (Laszlo Kovacs), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

laszlo is a very famous cinematographer! nimrod is an eccentric hungarian cable-tv exec who has his own winery.

Nimrod Kovacs (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

let's not forget ernie kovacs, of course...

Nimrod Kovacs (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

For some reason, I am always asked "Are you listening to hip-hop?" when I am wearing headphones. And people say it in a way like they are bumming cigarettes - like they want to get a whiff of the hip hop I am listening to on my headphones.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's another etiquette question. Is it rude to ask people who are listening to walkmen/iPods what they're listening to? I work at a candy store and whenever someone walks up with one, I always ask.

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yea, i always ask people what they're listening to. some people are cool, but other people treat you like a pervert. how dare you inquire what i listen to! it usually just puts me in a bad mood, though. especially when people are like, "I don't know... It's a mix." That's gotta be the worst.


I don't think it's rude to ask, but I'd prefer not to be asked by strangers. It makes me feel awkward. Most of the stuff I listen to isn't extremely obscure, but still, chances are the inquirer will not know what I'm talking about. They they'll ask me to describe the music, and I'll feel the need to give an adequate description, but a lot of the music I like defies easy description. And the person is usually looking for a quick answer, not an in-depth conversation. So, often I do become evasive. At least when you're making small talk about the weather, you don't have to think about what to say.

Mila, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I do a lot of walking outside, and I live in a city where a lot of guys in cars like to honk at every remotely attractive woman they drive by. I wear headphones to help me ignore this.

Also, before I started wearing headphones, if I was walking alone I'd often have to deal mild harrassment from guys on the sidewalk. By wearing headphones, I've cut way down on this. Guys will approach, saying, "Hey baby ...", then notice the headphones, and walk away! It's great.

Mila, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, it's another way of avoiding contact similar to wearing headphones.

Well, you see, I don't wear headphones to avoid contact.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 3 February 2005 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i do sometimes. it's very relieving.

Jay-Kid (Jay-Kid), Thursday, 3 February 2005 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, you see, I don't wear headphones to avoid contact.

Didn't imply that you did, but some people do.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 February 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Sometimes I do wear headphones to avoid contact, which I guess is a sad state of affairs. Probably started when I lived in a neighborhood with a lot of panhandlers. I got tired of dudes on every block coming up, "Hey man! How you doing? You doing all right? Listen, could you help me out with..." People do that less if you have headphones on.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 3 February 2005 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)


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