Dear Texas, I Hate You, Love Bright Eyes

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"We saw your Cowboys today. They never let Philadelphia even have the ball for a minute. It was 42 to 7 by the half. You oughtta give other people just a little chance. In football anyway."

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 10 February 2005 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link

I've still managed to have never heard a note by this guy, and I live in a college town in Texas. OK, THE college town in Texas.

He sure sounds like a fuckin' dufus, though. Something tells me I won't be ditching ZZ Top or Butthole Surfers or even Criss Cross for his stuff.

Austin (Austin), Thursday, 10 February 2005 07:03 (nineteen years ago) link

This tawdry episode only further confirms my theory on Conor Oberst:

He is a douche.

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Thursday, 10 February 2005 07:57 (nineteen years ago) link

because after forty hours a week hearing co-workers and/or customers talk about how great george bush and the death penalty are, what we really want to do to unwind is go to a show and listen to some emo dickhead whine self-righteously about the same topics.

oh conor, you hate the president? guess what you fuck, we were hating him back in the day when he was just the governor and we're pretty damn tired of hearing about him. you're in texas at a bright eyes show. you can take it as read everyone hates george fucking bush, so give it a rest and just play your stupid little songs.

tell us, Thursday, 10 February 2005 07:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Anyone notice the irony that this guy has ridden the "farm boy" routine to success? This is like watching contestants in the Special Olympics taunt each other.

Conrad Norton (Cunga), Thursday, 10 February 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Jon Williams still wins this thread.

donut christ (donut), Thursday, 10 February 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link

and I live in a college town in Texas. OK, THE college town in Texas.

You live in a town that has the same name as you? Fucking narcissist.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 February 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sorry, did you say something? I was distracted by the mirror-like surface of this CD.

Austin (Austin), Thursday, 10 February 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never knowlignly heard a note from Mr. Oberst but this episode considerably lessens the chances I ever wil

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 February 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The Austin exiles I know in Brooklyn don't say much different.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 10 February 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link

"cult or no, if I went to see my favorite band and they talked a bunch of ignorant shit about my hometown/state, I wouldn't have to think twice about with whom I had stronger loyalties.

-- Al (hoteloper...), February 10th, 2005.

Really? This is too fuckin' sad. Bonehead tribalism at its worst.

Oberst's rant was ignorantly put, and he probably is a douche and all, but what he said about Texas is basically true. Worst state in the union, by far.

MV, Thursday, 10 February 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link

This band should change their name to Brown Eyes.

cdwill, Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess you all hate the Dixie Chicks, too.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

And yes, I know that they made their comments in England.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Excellent point, MV. So you won't mind if I say fuck you and where you're from and everyone from where your from, then, will you?

Austin (Austin), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link

In fact, it's even dumber than that, because George W Bush and his whole evil fucking family are from Connecticut, not Texas.

Like, whoah!

Austin (Austin), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago) link

texas, as a state, rules. Plus, greatest football team / coach of all time.

Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I was with y'all 'til the football thing. If Roger is talking about the Cowboys, I'm going to have to agree with Sarah Conor or whatever his name is.

Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:52 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe he looked out at the audience and had a flash: "the jig is up"
and then felt insecure. . .oh wait, that's his whole thing, innit?

noizem duke (noize duke), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

[Parts of] Texas, as a state, rule. Like, everything west of Dallas. I could do without East Texas, let Louisiana have Deliverance-lite country. (ps fuck the Cowboys and their new stadium that I have to pay for. I hope Jerry Jones's face melts the next time he's in for botox and a lift.)

I imagine Bill Hicks' could have done a great routine on sensitive-guy rock like Bright Eyes.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm going to have to agree with Sarah Conor or whatever his name is.

I think I'd respect Conor more if he were a bit more like this:

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/kultur/2001/01/16/terminator_sak.jpg

Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Thursday, 10 February 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Seriously, what a dumbass. If you don't like the state, don't play goddamn shows in it.

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 10 February 2005 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Of course, it's not surprising given how juvenile his "political" songwriting is.

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 10 February 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

The Austin exiles I know in Brooklyn don't say much different.

-- Dr Morbius (wjwe...), February 10th, 2005.

Ok, but they're FROM Texas, so they have a little more right.

Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 10 February 2005 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link

When I curse Texas, I do it out of love.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Thursday, 10 February 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link

"cult or no, if I went to see my favorite band and they talked a bunch of ignorant shit about my hometown/state, I wouldn't have to think twice about with whom I had stronger loyalties.
-- Al (hoteloper...), February 10th, 2005.

Really? This is too fuckin' sad. Bonehead tribalism at its worst.

Oberst's rant was ignorantly put, and he probably is a douche and all, but what he said about Texas is basically true. Worst state in the union, by far.

Calling other posters sad = DUD

T-bag, Thursday, 10 February 2005 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link

it's okay, I am sad :(

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 10 February 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago) link

< / Conor >

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 10 February 2005 23:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Worst state in the union, by far.

Hardly.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 11 February 2005 00:01 (nineteen years ago) link

It's in the bottom five.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 11 February 2005 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I submit that Wyoming is the worst. Claim to fame? Dick Cheney.

Rounding out the bottom five are Montana, North Dakota, Alaska, and your pick of any state with endless stretches of nothing.

Matt Chesnut, Friday, 11 February 2005 00:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Bottom ten, maybe. But Austin is probably one of the 10 coolest cities in the US.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 11 February 2005 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link

no state that big that effectively has no winter can be that bad. (x-post)

Al (sitcom), Friday, 11 February 2005 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link

and your pick of any state with endless stretches of nothing.

Like Texas?

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 11 February 2005 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Endless stretches of nothing is underrated.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Friday, 11 February 2005 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Like Texas?

California even. Of course the difference is that after travelling for hours through endless stretches of nothing you finally arrive at something without having crossed a border.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 11 February 2005 00:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Endless stretches of nothing is underrated.

I liked ESN's earlier stuff better.

Matt Chesnut, Friday, 11 February 2005 00:14 (nineteen years ago) link

http://insectlaws.tamu.edu/11211617.gif

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 11 February 2005 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I wouldn't trust exiles either. Hey, I don't know if I'd move back to rural IL anytime soon, and there are some "red state" proclivities in the area I grew up in, but fuck anyone from there who would leave and talk shit about what a shithole rural IL is.

One of my best friends here is from near Austin (and other parts of the state at other times), left-wing tendencies, probably going to move to Europe one of these days, and she loves Texas whilst hating Bush. She goes back all the time because she misses it so much. She told me once she gets tired of defending Texas because of Bush and for other reasons related to the misguided perspective of outsiders and "elitist assholes" who think everything outside of Austin is a wasteland.

Riot Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 11 February 2005 00:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I wish someone would tell New York to go fuck itself once in a while. It might do it some good.

Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 11 February 2005 01:07 (nineteen years ago) link

indeed

latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 11 February 2005 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link

% of Nebraskans voting Bush: 66.29
% of Texans voting Bush: 61.10

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 11 February 2005 01:12 (nineteen years ago) link

"But as the night wore on and he drained yet another bottle of beer, Mr. Oberst turned surly"

can't wait for the recovering alkie album, sure to come down the line. or book:
"Once from a stage in Fort Worth I pilloried the great state of Texas. I was tired of the road, tired of having to play some dumb shit I came up with off the top of my head, and especially of the trick where I just repeated a portentous phrase over and over, sometimes even three or four or fifteen thousand times, every song.
My drummer was really good though. I noticed he seldom drank.
Then of course I met Bono..."

noizem duke (noize duke), Friday, 11 February 2005 01:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Conor Oberst = '05's Ryan Adams?

cdwill, Friday, 11 February 2005 01:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd rather hear Dashboard Confessional

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 11 February 2005 01:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Ryan Adams was far more entertaining than Oberst.

milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 11 February 2005 02:23 (nineteen years ago) link

http://members.cox.net/alyceanna/images/zxc-077.jpg

daria g (daria g), Friday, 11 February 2005 03:30 (nineteen years ago) link

This is Texas
This is badass
This is chain-gang
This is mustache
I am Texas, I am Texas, I am Texas, I am Texas

daria g (daria g), Friday, 11 February 2005 03:32 (nineteen years ago) link

http://img228.exs.cx/img228/777/austin.jpg

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 11 February 2005 04:25 (nineteen years ago) link

houston and dallas have better fine arts, but that's good for a road trip half a dozen times a year... not a reason to live there.

That's an absolutely ludicrous if your job (or your spouse's job) involves the fine arts!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

well if your job dictates where you live it doesn't really matter which city in texas you like best, you'll be living where the job is. guess why i'm living in houston right now and not austin :)

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 11 February 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link

That twee little fucker, I hope Guy tracks him down and kicks his ass for being so bold as to imply GC's an influence on Oberst's jivey crap. Ryan Adams sucks too. You guys go watch the Heartworn Highways DVD and get back to me if you think any different>>L

Lee, Friday, 11 February 2005 23:30 (nineteen years ago) link

WORD

noizem duke (noize duke), Friday, 11 February 2005 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link

im so confused. i clicked on a link on the village voice website, and now im back here, to ilm.

phil-two (phil-two), Sunday, 13 February 2005 00:46 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...
"So you won't mind if I say fuck you and where you're from and everyone from where your from"

Conor Oberst never said anything about insulting those residing in Texas. And by the way look at the facts, it is true that Texas is a pretty awful state, and that Conor had been drinking, perhaps he was a little, if not, not at all aware of the words that he "blurred" out. I personally have nothing againts Texas, except that I do honestly have to agree with the fact stated before.
Besides, most of you Texan residents - that came across this article, read it, then got all worked up about someone actually having the nerve to say to you the FACTS (once again)- are probably and most likely obliviated to Conor Oberst's music and great lyrical abilities, he was actually stated one of the most genious of our era. So if you have no idea on who he is and have something negative to say, best if you dont say anything at all, and all those Texans here that are aware of Conor 's talent, I respect you and I'm telling you there's no need really to try and defend your state, it's pretty much worthless to do so..Oh, and the person that said he/she'd rather listen to Dashboard Confesional, do you not have ears and a brain working well enough to know the difference between good and not so good music?

E-M, Wednesday, 4 May 2005 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Once more, THESE ARE THE FACTS.

The Father of Honky-Crunk (Matt Chesnut), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

seventeen years pass...

Oberst walks off stage after two songs in Houston, band has fans do live karaoke before show is cancelled.

https://www.spin.com/2022/05/bright-eyes-conor-oberst-houston/

Every now and then he falls apart.

peace, man, Wednesday, 25 May 2022 12:56 (one year ago) link

Conor Noberst

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 25 May 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link


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