Will read my copy of the Unterberger book while awaiting my turn out the community ILX copy of the limited edition memorabilia book
― Thunderword ESQ (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 April 2012 02:42 (twelve years ago) link
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa72/vulcangascompany1969/sunn_amps.jpg
― tylerw, Friday, 20 April 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link
http://blog.chron.com/bookish/files/2012/04/seeing-the-light.jpgGot this one at the library today.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
I've been eyeing that.
I just finished the two Bockris books, Up-Tight (nice photos, other contents superseded by the Unterberger book imo) and Transformer (lots of entertaining dirt but ultimately overwhelming in its Lou-ness; after finishing it, I felt like I had been listening to different versions of "Heroin" on repeat for a few days).
― Brad C., Monday, 23 April 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link
nice cover on the jovanovic book, though he really isn't a great writer, having read his big star and pavement books. what's the angle on this -- just a history?
― tylerw, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
Looks like that. Claims "exclusive" interviews.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
I put a notify in it to pick up at the circ desk once it has been processed.It just feels good in my hands. Not sure how interested I am in actually reading it.Never read this guy before.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 23 April 2012 21:45 (twelve years ago) link
― tylerw, Monday, April 23, 2012 10:38 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
If I'm thinking right that's from a photoshoot from L.A. when the Exploding Plastic Impossible crew went out there. there's a photo of the band with reflection in a window in the photobook version of Uptight which I wish i still had. From what I remember, they're dressed almost exactly the same which is why I'm thinking it's from that shoot. Always stuck in my head at least partially cos I loved Lou's boots in the photo. Not sure how much i like Uptight without the 60s photos.
The South Bank Show on them from the mid 80s was also pretty tasty.
― Stevolende, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:22 (twelve years ago) link
yeah that must be the same photo shoot that pretty much every VU book uses for its cover. i guess it's one of the few that features everyone (incl. warhol and nico). http://www.arrakis.es/~e.miquel/rnranimal/images/books/uptight.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51sUa3al8-L._SL500_AA300_.jpghttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/711VMZHJYVL._SL500_AA300_.gif
― tylerw, Monday, 23 April 2012 22:31 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.avclub.com/articles/visiting-the-highschool-auditorium-that-introduced,82633/sort of the ultimate link for this thread. but kind of fun anyway.
― tylerw, Thursday, 19 July 2012 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/524435_10151061126258791_637989788_n.jpgwon't be buying this, but it looks cool!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link
Is that new/soon-to-be-released?
― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link
Targeted for Late October according to the Sundazed FB page (which I reccomend "like"ing; Irwin is good about answering questions and such).
― Hut Stricklin at Lake Speed (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 03:37 (eleven years ago) link
Of course, they also spout out lines like this in regards to their product:
You may think you have these albums, but unless you have absolute first pressings, have the first four records in mono, have them all cut from the absolute original masters, and have the rare "closet mix" of the third LP, you really don't "have" these albums.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCtkzIXYzQ
― Hut Stricklin at Lake Speed (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 03:41 (eleven years ago) link
have the first four records in mono
rolling my eyes, 3rd LP was never in mono (some of the singles were)
― sleeve, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 04:17 (eleven years ago) link
I remember reading in The Velvet Underground Reader that the mono WL/WH is basically all noise, pure headache music. "The Gift" suffers in particular.
― Hut Stricklin at Lake Speed (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 04:22 (eleven years ago) link
I "have" these albums.
Also:
I remember reading in The Velvet Underground Reader that the mono WL/WH is basically all noise, pure headache music.
And this is bad how?
― Mark G, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 08:49 (eleven years ago) link
There seems to be some debate about the "mono" 3rd album.
It seems it's the "closet" mix, but it's a 'genuine' mono, not a 'fold-down' of the stereo.
But there seems to be no confirmation about it.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link
"The Murder Mystery" in mono would seem to defeat the purpose.
― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
it's weird, and kind of awesome, that the Velvet Underground, whose catalog was either OOP or cut-out bin for a good while, has become one of those bands whose stuff can be repackaged & rereleased again & again & again and people will just keep right on buying it
― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
And David Fricke will just keep right on writing about it. mostly curious about the tracklisting they've cooked up for the 1969 sessions (and whether those mixes are markedly diff from VU and Another View).
― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:15 (eleven years ago) link
the Velvet Underground, whose catalog was either OOP or cut-out bin for a good while
you sure about this? afaik none of the three canonical albums have ever gone out of print, which would also mean that they have never languished in cut-out bins
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:19 (eleven years ago) link
I thought the 1985 reissue program was the first time the first 3 records were back in print for at least a few years?
― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
technically I don't know. I do know that for several years you used to be able to hit up Rhino, Music Plus, the Wherehouse, Licorice Pizza, and Tower in SoCal and not be able to find anything except the debut & Loaded. And, as we all know, Loaded is a piece of shit and doesn't even count lol
― steven fucking tyler (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
lolin other news, its sterling morrison's b-day todayhttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_68orX32dobI/TPRrFdqS3dI/AAAAAAAAC70/NTzHDxIyf5M/s320/SMorrison.jpg
― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:36 (eleven years ago) link
Nooh.
You always had the choice of New pressings on the red "Polydor" label, or second-hand versions on the old MGM label, for not-too-much-money.
Or, of course, the "verve" editions for a chunka-change.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
I do remember a line in The Book of Rock Lists where Lester Bangs complained about Verve/MGM's horrible repackaging of Velvets records; just didn't know what the timeframe was.
― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
First album got the "can't peel" bananaSecond one got the "soldiers" front coverThird album escaped the re-design
― Mark G, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
There's also the unforgettablehttp://991.com/NewGallery/Velvet-Underground-Velvet-Undergroun-361886.jpg
― Choogle Image Search (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 14:56 (eleven years ago) link
pretty weird. is that an actual warhol design?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link
I think so, yes. That comp was actually my first ever VU record so I have a soft spot for it. It also seems to be rather rare.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
The first three were long out of print, at least in Canada--I bought import copies of the first and Loaded sometime around '78, then spent the next few years going from used store to used store, trying to find reasonably priced copies of #2 and #3. I wrote about this never-ending search once.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
Ditto.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
The first Velvets comp I had was a German double from the early 70s, with a green cover with a sort of sub-Roger Dean design on it. It also had tracks from "Chelsea Girl" on it.
The comp with the Warhol cover gets a mention in Julian Cope's "Head on" as both his and Ian McCullough's intro to the Velvets, around 1973.
― Rob M Revisited, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:09 (eleven years ago) link
My copy of Loaded:
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/0a2054f6bb8977ea4a69ad46a602eb82/674127.jpg
― clemenza, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
I found decent copies of the Verve originals for ~$10 each around 1990 at Rockaway Records of Los Angeles. Actually, now that I think of it my 3rd version may not be original, because when I first heard the closet mix of "Some Kinda Love" I was like "uh...... wtf?!?!!??!"
― queequeg (peter grasswich), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
i got used copies of all the original VU lps in the 90s for fairly cheap -- can't imagine I paid more than $10 for any of them. not that they were in great condition or anything. only half a banana ;_;
― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
just realised that i've never heard the non-closet mix of the 3rd album, is it really that different? only know i have the closet mix on vinyl cos someone remarked upon it when i played once
― zappi, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
on the non-closet version, some kinda love is a totally different (imo superior) take of the song. other differences are negligible to my ears.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
here's the non-closethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh-GNnCwHj4and the closethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pc8kMbL7y3o
― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
actually my fave version of that song is probably on live 1969
closet mix is basically just Lou's vocals louder, right? I think I only listened to it a couple times cuz it was on the Peel Slowly box. was not particularly impressed.
― chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
wow that's a totally different take of Some Kinda Love huhtotally jarring listen after 20+ years of playing the other version!
― zappi, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think it's a different take...? just a different mix.
― chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
pretty sure it's at least a different vocal take. think it might be a different instrumental take altogether too, but i suppose it could just be a different mix.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:50 (eleven years ago) link
Didn't know anything about that. I have the closet version. I have no idea what it has to do with a closet.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
Lou was in the closet iirc
― chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
pretty sure it's at least a different vocal take.
a lot of the inflections/line readings are *really* similar in each version, but I'm not sure
― chicago rap twitter luminary (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
here's what sal mercuri says in his peel slowly review: The box offers Lou's infamous 'closet mix', which is not better or worse than the more familiar Val Valentin mix, just different. The difference is one between an artist, and an engineer - one works to depict a personal vision, the other turns knobs and manipulates levers competently. As this box is intended to finally honor the band and their vision, it's only fitting that original mix be used. The most obvious variation is the alternate take of 'Some Kinda Love'. In the Valentin version, the take used features jangling guitars and straight ahead vocals typical of the band's live renditions of that song. The closet mix version sounds much more desperate, like Lou was lying on the floor, on the nod, with a microphone placed nearby as he mutters the virtues of all kinds of love.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
What I mean is, if the words are identical in the two versions (which is what most of these posts indicate), why is one any more closety than the other?
― clemenza, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 17:54 (eleven years ago) link