https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeZHB3ozglQ
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link
^^^norma jean wofford
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:45 (two years ago) link
and peggy jones aka lady bo (also not bo's sister) https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NtcM3Krd3Vk/VgB--9Y6EkI/AAAAAAABAn8/uMQznv7Gj7g/s1600/Lady%2BBo.jpg
― mark s, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 22:56 (two years ago) link
Maybe he got mixed up with B.B. King’s guitar?
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 00:06 (two years ago) link
Is it really The Diablos version of "The Wind" or is it instead Lou's beloved Jesters?
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 02:22 (two years ago) link
Also, John talks about being "taken advantage of" as a boy and the split screen makes it pretty clear what he is talking about. Not sure if that story is in What's Welsh For Zen or if I was just oblivious when I read it.
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 02:27 (two years ago) link
https://jarango.com/2019/09/25/john-cale-on-victimhood/
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 02:30 (two years ago) link
Just noticed a visual rhyme of Jphn's Tanglewood ax incident when there is a shot of some Syracuse frat boys smashing a piano.
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 02:45 (two years ago) link
My favorite Delmore thing is Lou reading his most famous short story near the very beginning.
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 02:50 (two years ago) link
Still
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 04:19 (two years ago) link
Regardless of what he’s right or wrong about (and whatever arguments we want to make about the death of fact checking), he’s made me wanna see the film again, and again.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 25 November 2021 05:47 (two years ago) link
I really enjoyed In Dreams Begin Responsibilities the Delmore Schwartz anthology I read. But it was a long time back. Have a copy sitting on a shelf here so must reread at some point.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 25 November 2021 07:43 (two years ago) link
greil absolutely makes the case for rewatching it closely, with pencil and paper handy, and then goin a-googlin and watching again -- of course this is so his kind of stuff (and also his kind of critical appraisal: seize on a detail and make it energise the whole thing). i was thinking he's pals with haynes and have access to content cheatsheets? but these errors feels like real-time personal responses so maybe not, or at least he's not scrutinising it (or haynes is also making mistakes) -- it doesn't matter that much except the thread title commands us…
― mark s, Thursday, 25 November 2021 12:53 (two years ago) link
The mistakes ARE embarrassing! If he ever puts this in a collection, hopefully they’re fixed.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 25 November 2021 13:00 (two years ago) link
Other Ilxors better versed in GM: does he just have super deep film knowledge/background? (Reading this I just assumed he does.)
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 25 November 2021 13:02 (two years ago) link
Yes -- for the things in his wheelhouse.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 November 2021 13:07 (two years ago) link
Did that piece display super deep knowledge? He seems familiar enough with what every schoolboy a halfway culturally literate person of his generation might know but otherwise…
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 13:11 (two years ago) link
Not saying he probably doesn’t know quite a bit, but mostly what I am seeing there is quote from Godard about Nicholas Ray plus Scorpio Rising.
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link
First GM mistake I ever found was when he didn’t know “Leave My Kitten Alone” was a Little Willie John song, which was soon topped by friend Mr. Fine Wine reading a sentence from Nelson George along the lines of “Who or what ‘Twine Time’ is, no one will ever know.” Of course back then they didn’t have the WikiGoogle yet.
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 13:21 (two years ago) link
We all need someone who can fact check, as the song goes.
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 13:23 (two years ago) link
Anyway, I definitely enjoyed reading what he wrote, just nitpicking as per thread title like mark said.
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 13:27 (two years ago) link
Really like the sequence when the Velvets are getting a tarot card reading, John notices the camera is on and laughs loudly at a joke Sterling makes, then ignores the camera along with the rest of the Velvets except for International Velvet who is hamming it up, whilst Amy Taubin comments on the unhealthy atmosphere at the Factory for the womenfolk.
― Sporting with the Fbclid (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 14:41 (two years ago) link
Which led me to https://www.artforum.com/print/202108/amy-taubin-speaks-with-todd-haynes-about-the-velvet-underground-86709
That Godard quote is pretty well-known, he didn't just pick it up browsing an old issue of Cahiers du Cinéma.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 25 November 2021 15:24 (two years ago) link
Lack of proofing suggested by using Gesamtkunstwerk twice? I mean it may be the right term both times but it clangs awkwardly the second (well actually the first more than the second, but you know what I mean).
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 25 November 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link
Thanks for sharing that Artforum piece.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 25 November 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link
Sure.This thing is structured so there is almost an hour of buildup. The classic original foursome (Angus is only mentioned as a denizen of 56 Ludlow Street) and sound clicks into place at the 50 minute mark. Then forty more minutes with John and Andy and Jonas and other avant-garde footage. Doug arrives with a half hour to go. The previous style of footage is almost all gone except for Lou's Screen Test, otherwise it is mostly generic Sixties NYC and Hippie footage along with some castoff Monty Python animation. The third album, lost album and Loaded along with with Lou and Sterl's departures (did they get the order right?) are dispensed with within fifteen minutes. The rest is noise drone post-mortem with Danny Fields etc.
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:29 (two years ago) link
I guess it is kind of nice that it end with Andy and Lou and then the final version of "Heroin" at Le Bataclan '72 iirc.
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:34 (two years ago) link
And then ATP over the credits.
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link
Maybe a future extended director's cut will mention Willie Alexander, Walter Powell and the ski lodge but I doubt it.
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:37 (two years ago) link
No Ian Paice no credibility.
― When Smeato Met Moaty (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link
Lol
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 November 2021 22:41 (two years ago) link
Apparently, he can’t remember it.
― Mark G, Friday, 26 November 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link
Ian Paice?
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link
On the Squeeze album with Doug Yule in the 70s
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 26 November 2021 01:37 (two years ago) link
Right. He can’t remember playing on it?
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 01:58 (two years ago) link
ohhh sorry thought you were wondering why him
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 26 November 2021 02:42 (two years ago) link
XPost correct
― Mark G, Friday, 26 November 2021 08:47 (two years ago) link
he remembers perfectly well it's just more yule erasure by the metal establishment
― mark s, Friday, 26 November 2021 11:34 (two years ago) link
my thought on greil's grasp of avant-garde film is that i don't think he's a scholar (not the way amy taubin is a scholar for example) but he def has a feel for the territory: perhaps from thinking abt (of course) debord (soc-spec, howlings, in girum…) and he's written abt bruce conner back in the day (i know bcz i ran a nice piece by him in the wife when i had that power) so
― mark s, Friday, 26 November 2021 11:37 (two years ago) link
the WIRE
borat voice: my WIRE
Autocorrect is a scourge
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 26 November 2021 11:38 (two years ago) link
it is but this was absolutely fat fingers
― mark s, Friday, 26 November 2021 11:54 (two years ago) link
It’s my wire and it’s my lyre
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 11:56 (two years ago) link
“Take my Wire, please!”
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 26 November 2021 11:58 (two years ago) link
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 12:29 (two years ago) link
Before the scourge:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDm_cptMRNI
I used to think Gerard was a joke with all that whip dancing, but I’m starting to warm up to him.
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 13:58 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfUkipNBq70
― Duck and Sally Can't Dance (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 26 November 2021 14:32 (two years ago) link